Revenuers shining thier jackboots up (gun confiscation thread)

[Curmudgeon]

Aren't the NJSP much more openly anti gun than the NYSP? There's some pretty damning videos showing how hostile NJSP can be towards gun owners. I've never personally had any experience with them but I've never had a bad experience with the NYSP. All quite positive.

Well the unnamed person who responded in the article was likely the Public Information Officer at State HQ. That officer gets their talking points from the superintendent.

If you translate that to the NYSP, I'm guessing you'll get the same response from the NYSP PIO, who reports to the superintendent, who was cum holes childhood friend.

I'll bet money that most of the rank and file in both NY and NJ hate this shitz realize they may have a choice to make some day, and hope like hell it'll never happen.

 

[Trauma47645]

Aren't the NJSP much more openly anti gun than the NYSP? There's some pretty damning videos showing how hostile NJSP can be towards gun owners. I've never personally had any experience with them but I've never had a bad experience with the NYSP. All quite positive.

Openly being the key word

 

[Trauma47645]

Well the unnamed person who responded in the article was likely the Public Information Officer at State HQ. That officer gets their talking points from the superintendent.

If you translate that to the NYSP, I'm guessing you'll get the same response from the NYSP PIO, who reports to the superintendent, who was cum holes childhood friend.

I'll bet money that most of the rank and file in both NY and NJ hate this shitz realize they may have a choice to make some day, and hope like hell it'll never happen.

I'll take your money

 

[Curmudgeon]

I'll take your money

Let's talk facts. I get it, you dont like cops. There are times I haven't liked them either, but I dont think you can paint them, or anyone else with a broad brush and have an honest conversation. Haters gonna hate, but I'm hopeful we can all sniff BS enough to know what's real and what isnt.

 

[FrankenCub]

Well the unnamed person who responded in the article was likely the Public Information Officer at State HQ. That officer gets their talking points from the superintendent.

If you translate that to the NYSP, I'm guessing you'll get the same response from the NYSP PIO, who reports to the superintendent, who was cum holes childhood friend.

I'll bet money that most of the rank and file in both NY and NJ hate this shitz realize they may have a choice to make some day, and hope like hell it'll never happen.

No, YT videos of rank and file NJSP say different. I've had personal contact with NYSP around my area and they are very firearm friendly. Maybe the southern tier location is different than the Albany area but I doubt it varies that much here.

 

[Curmudgeon]

No, YT videos of rank and file NJSP say different. I've had personal contact with NYSP around my area and they are very firearm friendly. Maybe the southern tier location is different than the Albany area but I doubt it varies that much here.

Anything you can share? Not doubting, just haven't seen.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

How would the police know who has these devices of death?

My bet...

Is that if the owners bought them with a credit or bank card (not cash) then good chance .gov has this info stashed somewhere in one of their giant databases. Stores track our buying habits you better believe that .gov does as well.

If you have posted a pic of them in social media, Google photos etc, then it's probably been scanned and stored in a database with the NSA. To my understanding when you use phone taking pics for example, Your pictures get sync'd to Google pictures. Once they go through there Google has a record of it and the share information with the NSA. Same with social media platforms.

 

[FrankenCub]

Anything you can share? Not doubting, just haven't seen.

I'd have to take the time searching YT for the videos I watched last year and the year before but some of them were also posted at the old site. Anyone can find them.

Personal contact, I've had troopers at my home because some dumb fuck posted a picture of a handgun and someone thought it was mine. Told them there's no way it was mine, pulled my P99 out emptied the chamber and dumped the mag and layed it on the table for them to compare with their screen shot they had. She said that's obviously not the same and was really good about me handling a loaded handgun in front of her. Sheriffs deputies show up looking for my wife's son because of some crap he said on FB and I'm open carrying at home, they didn't even bat an eye. My wife took in her granddaughter who is very very troubled, not firing on all cylinders troubled, so she didn't get stuck in the SS system and we'd have CPS here more than once because she'd cause trouble at school. One time one of the CPS workers had this huge chip on her shoulders giving us issues and thinking I shouldn't have guns in the house let alone open carry. I met her and a trooper outside to talk to her away from the kids and proceeded to rip her ass apart while the trooper smiled away and told her she can't say shit about my guns. Had a trooper stop at a local convenience store to get coffee next to me one deer season, I was open carrying a 15" Encore under my left shoulder and an S&W 686 on my right hip. He looked them over, grinned ear to ear and told me to have a good day as I left. I'm not the only one who has good experiences with NYSP.

 

[Curmudgeon]

My bet...

Is that if the owners bought them with a credit or bank card (not cash) then good chance .gov has this info stashed somewhere in one of their giant databases. Stores track our buying habits you better believe that .gov does as well.

If you have posted a pic of them in social media, Google photos etc, then it's probably been scanned and stored in a database with the NSA. To my understanding when you use phone taking pics for example, Your pictures get sync'd to Google pictures. Once they go through there Google has a record of it and the share information with the NSA. Same with social media platforms.

Your second paragraph has some merit IMO. When you got to a store and buy something on a card. The transaction record is just the amount and merchant name. They would have to subpoena the actual sales records from the merchant and somehow try to match up that against their list of registered, unserialized pieces of plastic and metal.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Your second paragraph has some merit IMO. When you got to a store and buy something on a card. The transaction record is just the amount and merchant name. They would have to subpoena the actual sales records from the merchant and somehow try to match up that against their list of registered, unserialized pieces of plastic and metal.

Government following due process and using subpoenas?

The NSA probably has an enormous list of barcode SKUs that automatically get flagged and transmitted to one of their giant data centers.

We have very little privacy left.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Government following due process and using subpoenas?

The NSA probably has an enormous list of barcode SKUs that automatically get flagged and transmitted to one of their giant data centers.

We have very little privacy left.

Now THAT is a fair point and something I haven't considered. Damn. Thanks for that.

 

[FrankenCub]

Google was in the news today, something about sharing information. They claim they don't and have setting for user privacy, but to get that said privacy you need to physically go into your account and shut off damn near everything useful otherwise you shit will be shared. It's in their best interest to share as much as they can.

 

[Marine Cpl]

You guys are either crazy or just want something to talk about. Credit card. Really? What about the people that follow the law and got them pinned, sold them, or gave them to family out of state?

State governments don't have those resources to purge through hundreds of thousands of credit card transactions to see if someone bought a magazine and then perform an illegal search in the home.

I'm tinfoil and I don't like cops that violate their oaths but this is ridiculous.

 

[96coal449]

this is ridiculous.

That would be all the infringements opposed on our rights.

 

[Jmac00]

NJ State Police Won't Rule Out Door-to-Door Enforcement of Mag Ban

no one knows who has any magazines. Even if they go by old 4473's, who knows how many guns have been transfered? And what are they going to do, they would go door to door in EVERY SINGLE HOUSE in Nazi Jersey?

This is lunacy, never going to happen.

 

[FrankenCub]

You guys are either crazy or just want something to talk about. Credit card. Really? What about the people that follow the law and got them pinned, sold them, or gave them to family out of state?

State governments don't have those resources to purge through hundreds of thousands of credit card transactions to see if someone bought a magazine and then perform an illegal search in the home.

I'm tinfoil and I don't like cops that violate their oaths but this is ridiculous.

I want to see it happen, just itching for everything to go full retard. Only then will the rest realize that, yes, they are coming for our guns.

 

[Acer-m14]

no more importing .. NJ ports closed due to cargo ship running aground from sunken high capacity Gun Magazines

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

You guys are either crazy or just want something to talk about. Credit card. Really? What about the people that follow the law and got them pinned, sold them, or gave them to family out of state?

State governments don't have those resources to purge through hundreds of thousands of credit card transactions to see if someone bought a magazine and then perform an illegal search in the home.

I'm tinfoil and I don't like cops that violate their oaths but this is ridiculous.

Sure I might be crazy. But I also might be right . maybe both.

Are you saying that's it's just wrong and the government doesn't have that capability? Look at how much snowden reported on and leaked for programs 5-10 years ago.

I'm not saying the government would act on that data especially since if it exists it's probably part of a classified surveillance program that We aren't supposed to know exists. We can thank the patriot act for opening up pandoras box.

Whether we want to admit it or not chances are great that .gov agencies have built profiles on all of us already and the data is real. Obviously there are things they can't account for or inaccuracies but the truth of how much they are able to track and predict about us would be alarming.

 

[Bananabandit]

Hopefully for my profile, it was a good picture at least.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Sure I might be crazy. But I also might be right . maybe both.

Are you saying that's it's just wrong and the government doesn't have that capability? Look at how much snowden reported on and leaked for programs 5-10 years ago.

I'm not saying the government would act on that data especially since if it exists it's probably part of a classified surveillance program that We aren't supposed to know exists. We can thank the patriot act for opening up pandoras box.

Whether we want to admit it or not chances are great that .gov agencies have built profiles on all of us already and the data is real. Obviously there are things they can't account for or inaccuracies but the truth of how much they are able to track and predict about us would be alarming.

New Jersey State.

 

[nortatoga]

The OP better hope this never becomes law!

New York Lawmakers Want Social Media Considered in Gun Background Check

 

[Robin]

Yes, we should be afraid of what we think and say. It's the new American way.
Robin

 

[@thewheels]

BB scare piece - nothing more.

From the article "they responded: “We do not discuss enforcement strategies.”
Translation: The legislators don't think this shit through so we're not sure how the hell we're supposed to pull this off.

Simply put, NJ prosecutors have one more piece of shit to fling at the wall now to be sure they get a felony conviction. And that's their goal.

IIRC, standard mags weren't legal in NJ before this BS law anyways. They had some other arbitrary number like 15 round capacity.

 

[Curmudgeon]

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

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If this is his address I applaud him for taking a stand.

We might need a few martyrs to jump on grenades for the greater good.


Hopefully he's not setting someone up to get swatted.

 

[Target]

They may base it on who owns an AR, AK, etc. Chances are those owners have standard capacity mags.

They do not have standard cap mags. Jersey was limited to 15 unti last Monday.

This capacity ban applies to pistols as well as rifles

 

[dwa12479]

The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: “We do not discuss enforcement strategies.”

So this translates to they're going door to door and searching houses for magazines larger than 10 rounds. C'mon man, give me a fucking break. This article is sensationalism at best.

 

[Defilade]

So this translates to they're going door to door and searching houses for magazines larger than 10 rounds. C'mon man, give me a fucking break. This article is sensationalism at best.

Ain't happening ! Such a waste of time and resources. The word would spread like wild fire and Mags/Guns would magically disappear. Besides there are thousands of gun owners, if they are going door to door I'll see ya in 10 years. LOL!

 

[Marine Cpl]

In this ridiculous scenario, the New Jersey government is going to comb through millions of credit card transactions. Then they will comb through millions of known gun purchases. Then they will hire thousands of cops to go house to house with illegal warrants for searches.

They'll search in baseboards, attics, and backyards. Are you guys really this _______ Insert word here.

 

[Robin]

"Outstanding", yes, why yes we are.
Robin