In NY State you have to take a course first to apply for a pistol permit.
Hunter Safety Class not required to purchase a rifle or shotgun
- Thread starter pramaglia
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I posted the quesiton in order to address a firearm safety concern. Recently the NY DEC posted an article about target shooters in the woods who almost killed some pheasant hunters. Seems most of the gun owners on this forum do not hunt and do not care about learning about firearm safety.
Doc8404
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Oh come on.
Because some of us don’t GAF about taking a HUNTER SAFETY course?
thanks. I will stick with pistol skills and combat courses.
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BDinPutnam
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You have nine posts and you think you have enough experience with this forum to make blanket statements about the membership?
Ok.
Ok.
BMF JK
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Are you sure your not a troll ? If your a troll ya gotta tell me since I asked.
No, I am not a troll. I just was concerned when I read the DEC article about some guys who apparently were not practicing safe firearm handling, almost accidentally killed a bunch of pheasant hunters. Just seemed to me like it would make sense for some new gun owners to take a firearm safety class before they go out shooting. Just like we teach people to drive, or to ride a motorcycle, etc.
BDinPutnam
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You have nine posts and you think you have enough experience with this forum to make blanket statements about the membership?
Ok.
Oh and the hunter ed course I took spent maybe an hour on firearms. Why would I need to spend an entire day learn hunting ethics and how to track a blood trail if I'm only interested in punching paper at long range?
I guess some instructors just emphasize hunting versus safety more then others. My class emphazised safety and even showed videos of people getting accidentally shot by hunters who did not practice safe shooting.
BDinPutnam
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I also prefer oversight of responsibility for safely exercising my constitutional rights at the personal rather than state level.
Should you have to take a state-run course to buy a printing press?
Should you have to take a state-run course to buy a printing press?
I was reacting to some of the replys on this thread only. Not the entire forum. If you don't hunt and are not concerned about new gun owners having some sort of safety course no problem. That is a personal decision. I'm fine with that. I don't think it's fair to attack me because I asked an honest question. As a fellow gun owner and 2nd amendment supporter I should be offered some courtesy to express my concern about firearm safey. I've been in the woods after a hunt just hanging around camp with a bunch of fellow hunters and had stray bullets whizzing over our heads. Not fun.You have nine posts and you think you have enough experience with this forum to make blanket statements about the membership?
Ok.
BDinPutnam
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Agreed entirely.
Your original post implied nobody, hunter or otherwise, should be allowed to buy long guns without taking a state mandated course.
Your original post implied nobody, hunter or otherwise, should be allowed to buy long guns without taking a state mandated course.
Great. No problem with that. I do the same thing.
If the libs have their way it may come to that. lol
camper4lyfe
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No you don’t. Only some counties require it.
ArmedCorgi
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You are really talking apples and oranges and seem to be hung up on the old liberal belief that Guns, hunting and the second amendment are somehow synonymous. They are not. The right to own guns, or weapons (arms) in general has nothing to do with hunting. Nothing, what. so. ever. Conversely, hunting is something not everyone can do or knows how to do. Yes, I'll give you that gun ownership has very serious responsibilities, but hunting is another animal all together. There is way more that can go wrong for people out in the woods hunting than for someone who just wants to own a long gun. In any case, I wouldn't worry too much. I am sure it won't be long before Cuomo and our beloved legislature pass mandatory firearm training just to exercise your second amendment rights. But as you said, you'd be okay with that. Yet you have the nerve to come on here and tell us we don't take the second amendment seriously....please, by all means, GET LOST. We don't need your crap.
I agree with your statement. The problem is that the libs are the ones comparing hunting to gun ownership. That is why they want to limit magazine capacity. The libs claim people don't need "X" numbers of bullets to hunt with. They do not seem to understand that some of us use firearms for personal protection and not just for hunting. Sorry if I offended you are anyone else. It was not my intent.
ArmedCorgi
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Okay then. No worries and welcome to the forum. Guess I just misunderstood your angle.
BDinPutnam
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Nice recovery. Welcome.
Doc8404
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Welcome to the land of misfits, curmudgeons and straight up assholes.
BDinPutnam
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Bozo
.45 acp
There are morons everywhere, and the woods are not exempt. No class will fix that. Taking gun safety seriously means you are (likely) not part of the simpleton squad. Think about it - the basic safety rules are common-sense, something most could easily determine with a notepad and 15 minutes to spare.
A few years back, we did a little after-work team building at a range in Texas. The place laid out a variety of handguns plus some full-auto rifles for us to enjoy. Mandatory safety-briefing beforehand. As soon as we head out to the line, one of the database guys grabs an uzi, wheels around and says "Hey guys, take my picture!" He swept the entire crew, plus some other customers. Not 5 minutes after sitting through the lecture. Just like everywhere else in life, otherwise smart people end up going temporary moron. You cannot mandate that away.
A few years back, we did a little after-work team building at a range in Texas. The place laid out a variety of handguns plus some full-auto rifles for us to enjoy. Mandatory safety-briefing beforehand. As soon as we head out to the line, one of the database guys grabs an uzi, wheels around and says "Hey guys, take my picture!" He swept the entire crew, plus some other customers. Not 5 minutes after sitting through the lecture. Just like everywhere else in life, otherwise smart people end up going temporary moron. You cannot mandate that away.
That_FNG
.308 Win
You beat me to it. Yes hunting requires a safety class, yet somebody is shot every year. Classes will end this as much as making new laws will stop crime.
M_F
.45 acp
Only Westchester County requires it by PL 400. A few counties ignore PL 400 by making their applicant take the course, just because nobody has challenged it does not make it legal. Surprisingly NYC and long island don't make you take a course but do highly suggest it in their pistol license handbook.
lol
And people should take a voting class or a due process class or any other Jim crow laws you seem like you support
I thought it was required. I was mistaken. I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
Acer-m14
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Saltwater60
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That’s an awful bold statement from someone who just joined. Have you looked around? Have you viewed the hunting section?
Your first post was vague at best and I’m guessing no one knew what you were getting at. I read it as you should have to take a course for safety to obtain all guns and be permitted. Your clarification of that does not match your first post. Secondly this clarification of target shooters almost killing a pheasant hunter who on this forum would have known anything about this unless you posted and doesn’t match your first clarification of your original post. Your first clarification was we don’t care about gun rights and we will be standing in line to get approved for ammo, now this?
1.) you either don’t know or care enough to post thorough details to get an accurate response to your question
2.) your a liberal looking to cause trouble
3.) your just nuts.
So what is it?
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