extra mag??

[Dr. Evil]

22 years of concealed carry..zero shots shot. 7 in the magazine does me(and every other human I know that carries and never needed to use any) juuust fine..

Until it isn't. At work I deep carry a Walther PPS 9MM in a Smart Carry with an extra 7 round mag in the pouch too. Outside of work, I appendix carry my M&P Compact in my Smart Carry with an extra 10 round mag in the pouch and another in my front right change pocket in the bigger pocket or my M&P appendix in a kydex holster along with a mag in a horizontal kydex mag carrier with another mag in my front right pocket.

 

[4excal]

Until it isn't. At work I deep carry a Walther PPS 9MM in a Smart Carry with an extra 7 round mag in the pouch too. Outside of work, I appendix carry my M&P Compact in my Smart Carry with an extra 10 round mag in the pouch and another in my front right change pocket in the bigger pocket or my M&P appendix in a kydex holster along with a mag in a horizontal kydex mag carrier with another mag in my front right pocket.

I dearly hope /sarc was meant to follow that 2nd half of the post..or maaaaaan I gotta add you to the "ignore" list..again ain't no body but a swat team needing 58 booolits to go get a gallon of milk..although I truly believe apparently some of you do hehehehehe

 

[Dr. Evil]

I dearly hope /sarc was meant to follow that 2nd half of the post..or maaaaaan I gotta add you to the "ignore" list..again ain't no body but a swat team needing 58 booolits to go get a gallon of milk..although I truly believe apparently some of you do hehehehehe

58? Never said that. If I carry the Walther, I have 14 rounds total and if I carry the M&P, I either have 21 or 31 rounds total. What's with the "add you to the ignore list..again"? When did you do it the first time man? I'm hurt.

 

[4excal]

"Any responsible firearms or CCW instructor in the private sector, like any good law enforcement trainer in a police academy, will recommend the carry of spare ammo. One reason is that, quite simply, the defensive handgun is emergency safety/rescue equipment, and redundant capability must be in place in case it fails. With the semi-auto pistols most widely used today for defensive purposes, malfunctions are most often traced back to defects in the ammunition or in a gun’s magazines. For many stoppages, which prevent the gun from working, the quickest and simplest lifesaving fix is to clear out the ammo and magazine in the gun, reload and carry on. - See more at: Massad Ayoob: Carrying Spare Ammunition for Self-Defense"

Maybe 1 extra is understandable, I do keep an extra ONE in my car when ever I'm going anywhere. But even then, it stays right there 85% of the time. For me and this argument of people's own ideas, it's a complete 100% statistic, number proof. My 8090 days of carrying never 1 shot, yet that same mag I carry daily goes to the range with me 223 days a year(945 days of carrying this one) and never ever failed..now multiply those single human stats to all you guys and everyone we all know that never once used their gun for self defense and the numbers ate just there. It's laughable to carry all kinds of shit hanging off your belt and in your pockets and up your ankles. If you peeps need to feel that warm fuzzy saftey backup feeling, each to his own. I'm good and you guys are good, it's 'Murica

 

[4excal]

Outside of work, I appendix carry my M&P Compact in my Smart Carry with an extra 10 round mag in the pouch and another in my front right change pocket in the bigger pocket or my M&P appendix in a kydex holster along with a mag in a horizontal kydex mag carrier with another mag in my front right pocket.

I guesstimated 50ish by those words above..I apologize.

Aaaand you'd never be my ignore list maaaaan, I'm just crackin sak

 

[Dr. Evil]

I guesstimated 50ish by those words above..I apologize.

Aaaand you'd never be my ignore list maaaaan, I'm just crackin sak

Oh, ok. I'm happy again.

 

[4excal]

Oh, ok. I'm happy again.

 

[since2004]

Now that's a commitment.

I do carry a spare in my cargo pocket usually. I have thought of getting a mag holder, but just have not done it yet. I will because I want one for a mag and another space for a flash light. You should carry an extra mag. I always do. Always.

a combo holster for a mag and a flashlight? I have heard stories of guys trying to jam batons, cans of oc and flashlight into their mag wells while under stress doing drills or qualifying.

and to add to my previous comment, I also use owb paddle holsters and other methods but not nearly as often as I pocket carry.

 

[Graptor]

Who needs more than 16 rds in a carry gun? extra mag is silly...Oh, wait I mean 10

 

[Clancy]

Fix a flat with a spare..not 30
13 years of homeownership and no fire..bad analogy..fire extinguishers are definitely important and could be needed any day..

22 years concealed and zero shots, God forbid bad guy tried to take your wallet, 1 maybe 2,3 shots needed..Still don't need 21 spread out into 4 lbs and 3 magazines going to the A & P..

Have a stovepipe or any other failure to feed. You have to drop your magazine to clear the weapon. Would you rather have a spare, or reuse the mag that is most likely somewhere n the ground? I always have a spare mag, and keep it in my left back pocket. I have ever needed it? Not yet. Have I ever needed my pistol? Again, not yet, but that doesn't mean I won't, this evening, tomorrow or next week. We carry in hopes of never needing it, but if we do, we will need our weapon badly. The same with a spare mag.

 

[DoD1776]

First the Trump shirt at school, now calling you out. He's crazy I tell ya.

Trump flag* and shirt*

 

[Glenn B]

22 years of concealed carry..zero shots shot. 7 in the magazine does me(and every other human I know that carries and never needed to use any) juuust fine..

Has it been the same magazine, with the same mag spring too, in all those 22 years?

 

[4excal]

Has it been the same magazine, with the same mag spring too, in all those 22 years?

Nooooooo. Lol. Post #34 answers that..sorta

 

[Cooolone]

Funny thing then that all LE shouldn't need to carry any extra loads then if the reasoning here is correct. But I'm 100% sure if you ask anyone who has been in a firefight/gun battle if they felt they had enough ammo with them what answer you'd get.

That said, everything is relative as to what I'm doing, where I'm going to be, what I'm wearing... But I carry as much ammo as the situation will allow, minimum 2 extra mags which puts me on par with gangbangers who love the 30's. Winter months I carry 3 extra or whatnot. Summer is tougher but I switch out to my P238 and still 2 extra mags in a Remora pocket holster which fits the two perfectly for a total of 22 rounds (7+1, 7, 7), and the load out is mixed hard nose and hollow point with Underwood hot loads to boot. Being new (OP) I'm sure you'll run across the "do I keep the mag topped off or one round shy" or "don't keep mags loaded when not used for the lifespan of the mag springs" BS... All mags are loaded to capacity, at all times, ready to go, even the extras I'm not carrying. Also, when visiting the range, I spend the ammo in the mag and this rotates fresh ammo, yes, even the expensive hot loads...

It's all good, and personal preference, just get comfy with what you carry and familiar with the muscle movement of reloading... Enjoy and be safe!

 

[Glenn B]

This thread inspired me to write a blog post about carrying spare ammo:

BALLSEYE'S BOOMERS: If You Carry A Self Defense Handgun - ALWAYS Carry Extra Ammo

 

[Cooolone]

I post that link often, it's a good reference as to load out for hand gunners. And not often enough is what I've been trained as to Body Alarm Reaction is... If you receive reputable training, it will delve into it. But life's best teacher is experience and you just can't share it, either you been there and done that, or you haven't. You can train all you want, but there is nothing that will predict your reaction to shit hitting the fan until you're in the middle of the shit! Best one that makes me chuckle is trainers saying 2 to the body and 1 to the head, like the two will always cause the same effect, or stop the attacker at all, or cause the pause expected to try and place one to the head. Even implying taking 3 shots and then it'll all be done or you check your work is ridiculous. Anyways, off topic! But nice to see others with same mindfulness...

 

[Podmonkey]

22 years of concealed carry..zero shots shot. 7 in the magazine does me(and every other human I know that carries and never needed to use any) juuust fine..

By the same logic one could question the need to carry a gun at all. Now what you do and do not carry is your choice but how hard is it to carry an extra mag?

 

[spat]

22 years of concealed carry..zero shots shot. 7 in the magazine does me(and every other human I know that carries and never needed to use any) juuust fine..

So, based on your data, 0 rounds is just fine.

Forgive me if I don't find that compelling evidence.

I can guarantee that the number of people who were ever involved in a gunfight that said "wish I didn't carry that extra mag" is very close to 0.

The number who wished they had one more is certainly much higher.

 

[Doc8404]

Fix a flat with a spare..not 30
13 years of homeownership and no fire..bad analogy..fire extinguishers are definitely important and could be needed any day..

22 years concealed and zero shots, God forbid bad guy tried to take your wallet, 1 maybe 2,3 shots needed..Still don't need 21 spread out into 4 lbs and 3 magazines going to the A & P..

Mags are the part of EDC that usually fails. That's the reasoning.

 

[Saltwater60]

Fix a flat with a spare..not 30
13 years of homeownership and no fire..bad analogy..fire extinguishers are definitely important and could be needed any day..

22 years concealed and zero shots, God forbid bad guy tried to take your wallet, 1 maybe 2,3 shots needed..Still don't need 21 spread out into 4 lbs and 3 magazines going to the A & P..

What if 3 people rob you. Logic would say they would run, but you just never know. To each their own though. You never know. If that logic works for you then why not leave your gun at home too and save more weight. Not trying to be a jerk just saying.

 

[1911guy]

My revolver doesnt accept clips

Or magazines either

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

I was raised to always carry 2 reloads whether carrying my normal "j" frame or a 1911

 

[4excal]

Yes yes yes to everyones "what ifs" this is a personal decision and I go about my day the same as I have. You guys are comfortable carrying all the extra weight and extra "needs", I'm comfortable carrying my 7 in my magazine and pocket space. This, as everything in life, is a each to his own. Yes that moment of 3 or more guys attacking me is what it will be, my few shots better be on, if they're not, my next few better be on, if they're not, oh well...

 

[thegatman]

My revolver doesnt accept clips

Or mags either.

 

[Day444]

I'm all for caring extra rounds. Is there a need, maybe. I carried a 5 shot revolver for years, it never left the holster. Times have changed, mag limits (suck), may very well require an extra mag. As an LEO, I carried damned near a box of rounds (between what was loaded and what was on my belt). Did I need that much? Luckily I never had to find out the hard way. Yeah, it's not always easy to carry "extra" but (as it's been said before)
better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

 

[Podmonkey]

Yes yes yes to everyones "what ifs" this is a personal decision and I go about my day the same as I have. You guys are comfortable carrying all the extra weight and extra "needs", I'm comfortable carrying my 7 in my magazine and pocket space. This, as everything in life, is a each to his own. Yes that moment of 3 or more guys attacking me is what it will be, my few shots better be on, if they're not, my next few better be on, if they're not, oh well...

Easy now, nothing personal. In a "typical" defensive scenario you'll do an unaimed mag dump at point blank range and if that doesn't stop the attacker then you won't likely have time for a reload anyway. However in the case of multiple attackers, which is not an uncommon occurrence among defensive shootings again, you'll likely dump the mag in the first guy and if the others haven't fled your caught with your pants down big time. Now I'm not trying to convince you, you've made your decision and I respect that even if I don't agree, but to others who may be reading this to formulate their own opinion I say this: An extra mag, particularly if it's for a single stack subcompact is not going to weigh you down, find a good mag caddy that works for you and you won't even notice it's there, its cheap insurance. Now I only carry one extra mag, I find the extra bulk of a double mag carrier to be a little too bulky, and I don't like to carry mags in the pocket for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

 

[Podmonkey]

If I do get a shoulder rig for the PPQ, in that case I would be carrying the two mags. 46-50 rounds of 9mm? Now that is some significant defensive potential!

 

[Day444]

If I do get a shoulder rig for the PPQ, in that case I would be carrying the two mags. 46-50 rounds of 9mm? Now that is some significant defensive potential!

Yes, but as you have pointed out; if you can't reload what good is it? Just saying..

 

[4excal]

Apparently anyone that carries a revolver dies then . Maybe, I guess they can have a fanny pack with 2 more cylinders loaded, and a couple speedloaders in the pockets..they never needed more then 5 or 6 boooolits..up until the new mentality.

 

[Podmonkey]

Yes, but as you have pointed out; if you can't reload what good is it? Just saying..

Probably won't is not the same as never will. Also in the case of the shoulder holster the weight of the mags counterbalances the weight of the gun, and there is plenty of room for them there so really it would be counter productive to not have em. Again for me extra mags is a matter of having much improved capability for minimal penalty. I wonder how the stats for defensive reloading breaks down? I'm sure it happens.