Cuomo’s response to the WuFlu Situation

[Acer-m14]

https://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf

from Page 31 of the aforementioned report:
Stockpiling Ventilators
New York State pandemic planning includes careful consideration of the potential shortage of ventilators, based on the estimates discussed above. There is a federal government stockpile of ventilators, but its use is limited for any one locality; there are not enough ventilators to be distributed to meet demand if many regions need them at once.

New York State has stockpiled 1,750 ventilators to help reduce ventilator need in the face of the moderate scenario; however, there are no current plans to buy enough ventilators for the most severe model. The State's current approach to stockpiling a limited number of ventilators balances the need to prepare for a potential pandemic against the need to maintain adequate funding for current and ongoing health care expenses. Furthermore, severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them. In the event of an overwhelming burden on the health care system, New York will not have sufficient ventilators to meet critical care needs despite its emergency stockpile. If the most severe forecast becomes a reality, New York State and the rest of the country will need to allocate ventilators and other scarce resources.
In sum, Cuomo knew NY State needed 15,000 more ventilators in 2015, and did nothing.

In fact, in that very report, the state justified not buying the 15K ventilators because "severe staffing shortages are anticipated, and purchasing additional ventilators beyond a threshold will not save additional lives, because there will not be a sufficient number of trained staff to operate them."

Andy Cuomo wants 30K more ventilators from the Feds and he wants them yesterday. However, less than five years ago the state's rationale for not purchasing the 15K (it knew it would need during this very type of scenario) was, even if the state had the 15K extra ventilators, there would never be enough personnel to even operate them.


He is a pos.

and again ..

NYC is short of medical supplies because somebody forgot to order them

Every time New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio goes on cable news to give an update on the coronaviru

hotair.com

 

[Acer-m14]

Hearing Cuomo just issued an EO closing all FFLs.
Can any FFL here confirm ?

nope .. last i knew the one here is open .. but NICS is backed up so who knows wtf is going on

.. but if so that means Constitutional Carry is a go .. if not FUAC better send me 3 of his bodyguards ..

what the hell happened to live free and die .. then end is a given .. its gunna happen ...

fk to day Evil Kenevil would have been shut down on the first wheelie

 

[spat]

Some people talk a lot of shit.
When people die in your arms and one knows perhaps something could be done why we are so fvcking arrogant and we don't listen?
Some people say, stop contention, just let the virus spread and let mother nature do its thing but then they change their opinion
when it is their kids, them, their parents or grandparents who get very sick and might die.
Then they will grab a red hot iron in order to save them.

Somewhere around 3 million Americans will die this year. Almost all of them from something that will get far less media hype than this virus.

If your grandpa dies from a heart attack or cancer is it any less tragic than this disease ? If you're really worried about someone in your life, helping them eat healthier will probably do more for their life expectancy than shutting down the hair salon they never go near.

Also, if we could somehow manage to stop that 3 million from dying, we'd be screwed. We *need* people to die. It's unfortunate, but it's reality. Civilization would collapse in a few years otherwise.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

There's already a #cuomoforpresident or something.

Sadly I see Cuomo puttnig more effort into this than Trump. I'm not sure what Trump has even done last several days to be honest. Seems like he didn't sleep well last night and spent a lot of time tweeting and retweeting.

Cuomo has 1 State....The Prez has 50 plus the world to deal with. Cuomo ( has a scapegoat)can blame everything on Trump. Trump has to eat all the Crap and get credit for nothing. At least 60% of the Country approve His virus decisions. They'll always be people not satisfied. Hindsight is 20/20

Let's take NY for an example. Cuomo is screaming for ventilators and PPE. His anger is pointed to the Feds. He and other's claim the FEDS are not "PREPARED" No one was prepared. Cuomo has 8.5 million people in NY....3000 ventilators...53k Beds. Did all the people move in just this week ? He has the state 4 billion in the crapper. Didn't he prepare for a disaster ? Did the other Govenors or Mayors ? Nope. But they blame Trump. Plus Central and Western NY will suck eggs until (maybe) the region becomes a disaster.

 

[spat]

Every group of humans in history have formed government in one manner or another. Even government-free parts of Somalia, run by warlords, have their own system of rules and hierarchy guiding things. People always have and will gravitate to it because outside of illogical theory that has no real world application we all know it's a necessity.

Anarchy is great, right up until 2 guys realize they can team up to get whatever they want from the rest.

Then you don't have anarchy anymore, you have tyranny.

That whole process takes about 5 minutes.

 

[FirstRifle]

Let's say that an adequate supply of ventilators is created and now staffing the deployment and monitoring of ventilators becomes the issue.

Does anyone know what level of education / training is required to put a patient on a ventilator? Do you have to be an MD, PA, RN, LPN or have some other qualification or specialization?

If a person in the medical field could be trained quickly on properly introducing or putting a patient to a ventilator, and even if a highly skilled / qualified person must do that, could a less skilled person perform subsequent monitoring, thus freeing up the highly skilled person for other tasks?

 

[pjzwtl]

The issue isn’t others who can set up and monitor vents. The issue is if we get to that point the existing hospitals would be over capacity. Many come close under normal conditions

 

[Blimey]

The issue isn’t others who can set up and monitor vents. The issue is if we get to that point the existing hospitals would be over capacity. Many come close under normal conditions

Yes, I believe most hospitals are generally around 100%, so there is just little slack in the system for upping that by magnitudes. NYC this moment is near capacity.

 

[GOYABEAN]

by proclamation of king wannabe all New hospitals will renamed the blowhard first memorial sanctuary hospital

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Let's say that an adequate supply of ventilators is created and now staffing the deployment and monitoring of ventilators becomes the issue.

Does anyone know what level of education / training is required to put a patient on a ventilator? Do you have to be an MD, PA, RN, LPN or have some other qualification or specialization?

If a person in the medical field could be trained quickly on properly introducing or putting a patient to a ventilator, and even if a highly skilled / qualified person must do that, could a less skilled person perform subsequent monitoring, thus freeing up the highly skilled person for other tasks?

I learned in the military that one expert can direct many. People in medical positions are high quality and can learn things rapidly and follow directions nicely.

 

[Steal2B]

New Yorks ventilator shortage is a direct result of FUAC's decision to ration ventilators instead of buying replacements when he was notified of the New York State shortage five years ago.

After learning that the state's stockpile of medical equipment had 16,000 fewer ventilators than New Yorkers would need in a severe pandemic, Gov. Andrew Cuomo came to a fork in the road in 2015. He could have chosen to buy more ventilators. Instead, he asked his health commissioner, Howard Zucker to assemble a task force and draft rules for rationing the ventilators they already had.

Cuomo could have purchased the additional 16,000 needed ventilators for $36,000 apiece or a total of $576 million in 2015. It's a lot of money but less than the $750 million he threw away on a boondoggle "Buffalo Billion" solar panel factory. When it comes to state budget priorities, spending half a percent of the budget on ventilators is a no brainer.

New York's Ventilator Rationing Plan, by Betsy McCaughey

Coronavirus is causing working-age people to worry about missing paychecks, caring for kids home from school, stockpiling groceries and canceling plans. But people in their 50s, 60s or older have bigger worries.

www.creators.com

 

[pjzwtl]

New Yorks ventilator shortage is a direct result of FUAC's decision to ration ventilators instead of buying replacements when he was notified of the New York State shortage five years ago.

After learning that the state's stockpile of medical equipment had 16,000 fewer ventilators than New Yorkers would need in a severe pandemic, Gov. Andrew Cuomo came to a fork in the road in 2015. He could have chosen to buy more ventilators. Instead, he asked his health commissioner, Howard Zucker to assemble a task force and draft rules for rationing the ventilators they already had.

New York's Ventilator Rationing Plan, by Betsy McCaughey

Coronavirus is causing working-age people to worry about missing paychecks, caring for kids home from school, stockpiling groceries and canceling plans. But people in their 50s, 60s or older have bigger worries.

www.creators.com

Gotta pay for free college to illegals some how

 

[Steal2B]

Gotta pay for free college to illegals some how

He spent 50% more on his Buffalo Busted solar panel disaster than the ventilator recommendations

 

[Steal2B]

FUAC says he has plans to ship NYC Covid19 patients to upstate hospitals

Cuomo Says Downstate Patients Could Be Transported To Upstate Hospitals Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

With downstate hospitals slammed with an increasing amount of COVID-19 patients, Governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Thursday that the state is looking to start moving patients from downstate to upstate

www.wicz.com

 

[MrWhite]

Cuomo: It was not the best strategy to shut down NY

Speaking at a press conference in Albany as the number of cases in New York rose to 37,000 and the death toll increased to 385.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[cgrutt]

FUAC

 

[holdover]

At least he has his own TV show now

 

[Acer-m14]

At least he has his own TV show now

he does ,. i need cable tv now ? .. do i get some $$$ kick backs to watch .. lol

 

[mca90guitar]

FUAC says he has plans to ship NYC Covid19 patients to upstate hospitals

Cuomo Says Downstate Patients Could Be Transported To Upstate Hospitals Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

With downstate hospitals slammed with an increasing amount of COVID-19 patients, Governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Thursday that the state is looking to start moving patients from downstate to upstate

www.wicz.com

The local hospitals here called my work asking if we could spare any supplies. I know my sister said her hospital has been slammed.

 

[Dr. Evil]

‘It’s misleading’: Nurses union slams Cuomo on coronavirus protective gear claim

Nurses battling the coronavirus inside city hospitals are still not getting the protective gear they need — despite what Gov. Cuomo is saying, reps with the state nurses union said Thursday. …

www.nydailynews.com

 

[1911guy]

FUAC has become the biggest whiner in the country. I hate WHINERS.

 

[Grimscale]

FUAC says he has plans to ship NYC Covid19 patients to upstate hospitals

Cuomo Says Downstate Patients Could Be Transported To Upstate Hospitals Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

With downstate hospitals slammed with an increasing amount of COVID-19 patients, Governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Thursday that the state is looking to start moving patients from downstate to upstate

www.wicz.com

yeah, because importing it directly from affected Countries into Upstate wasn't effective enough.

The local hospitals here called my work asking if we could spare any supplies. I know my sister said her hospital has been slammed.

Well, thank goodness, FUAC is here to help. He'll make sure they are doubly-slammed!

 

[Robin]

Fucking dumb fuck.
FUAC!
Robin

 

[Steal2B]

Today on Social media there are posts quoting Orange County Nurses stating that their Hospital is overwhelmed with four floors of COVID19 patients and the needed supplies that were due on Friday WERE ALL COMMANDEERED BY THE GOVERNOR AND ROUTED TO NYC.

 

[Steal2B]

And at another Upstate Hospital

 

[BDinPutnam]

Some kind of verification would be nice.

 

[Steal2B]

Some kind of verification would be nice.

Yes it would but there are several threads all with the same claims. At least one photo posted of shipping boxes with destroyed routing labels and its thread was taken down.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Yes it would but there are several threads all with the same claims. At least one photo posted of shipping boxes with destroyed routing labels and its thread was taken down.

There are many, many threads on the internet that say the Holocaust never happened.

I'm not comparing the two per se, just sayin'... trust but verify.

 

[Steal2B]

There are many, many threads on the internet that say the Holocaust never happened.

I'm not comparing the two per se, just sayin'... trust but verify.

I have friends and family who are medical professionals and shared similar first hand experience about the surge of patients (and supplies being commandeered) from Hospitals in Dutchess, Orange, Connecticut and even swamped Westchester. I would guess several of us here are likely hearing similar and predictable feedback. Honestly, however, none of them discussed the adulteration of shipping information with me. From my view, FUAC would not bother hiding from any decision to aid NYC or Albany at the expense of Upstate communities.

 

[Dr. Evil]

People seem to be making Cuomo the flavor of the month, just remember a few things.
Under Cuomo
NY is now a sanctuary state
Criminals are being released from jails
Big jails are closing in NY and opening in a town near you
Criminals being arrested and being released without bail
Information on people pressing charges is now released to the defense
drivers licenses are being given to illegal aliens
no voter id
raised taxes
couldn't close the deal with amazon in LIC because of a freshman congress woman
opted to back solar energy instead of replenishing respirators
NY is broke
Closed OTB before they went bankrupt putting thousand of employees out of work
Gave himself a raise making himself the highest paid governor in america
I'm sure I missed a few

So true..taken from a friend, but was worth reposting