They barely touched him. End of story. This isn’t a constitutional issue, I mentioned no such thing. Don’t start confusing the conversation on purpose.
Buffalo PD emergency response team resigns over old man shove
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They barely touched him. End of story. This isn’t a constitutional issue, I mentioned no such thing. Don’t start confusing the conversation on purpose.
Mr. terzmo
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I don't push...I walk around and ignore...I know the ramnifications if things go poorly. It's called restraint and common sense of apprising the situation.
They got arrested?!?
Wow talk about serving notice on your cops that they shouldn’t be doing jack.
Any cop in Buffalo who risks themselves during these riots is a fool. Let it burn. Better than going to jail for some fragile snowflake who thinks he can touch you.
Mr. terzmo
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That was NOT "barely touching" he was shoved by two young men. Barely touched is dilusional
Felony assault is the info I'm hearing.
Then I hope it’s true that the blue flu is set for today. Or at the least, the horse blinders find their way to every remaining cop’s eyes. Way better for the city to burn than for a cop to be arrested for political pandering.
Asking about our families is dumb.
First, if I said they deserve it, you wouldn’t believe me anyway so why ask?
Second (as shown already), if I say they would intentionally go up to a cop aggressively and start touching them, you say that doesn’t matter because “it could happen to any of us.”
So either way, the question is dumb. But since it was asked, I’ll answer and don’t care what you think: none of my family would assault a cop. And any who did, deserve what they get because I choose my blue family over degeneracy of any kind from anyone.
First, if I said they deserve it, you wouldn’t believe me anyway so why ask?
Second (as shown already), if I say they would intentionally go up to a cop aggressively and start touching them, you say that doesn’t matter because “it could happen to any of us.”
So either way, the question is dumb. But since it was asked, I’ll answer and don’t care what you think: none of my family would assault a cop. And any who did, deserve what they get because I choose my blue family over degeneracy of any kind from anyone.
Toecutter
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Where they rioting ? I honestly dont know i havent seen any videos beforehand. That will make a huge difference. I have no issue cracking skull if people are burning and looting but i do if they are legitimately protesting.
I dont believe either side when they say everyone’s a looter or everyone’s a peaceful protester.
Steal2B
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Young men. Hell, I am damn near your age and I have no doubt that even unarmed I could physically ruin either of those kids day. Age is not an issue in this encounter and at 70 you know it.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I believe the video you posted at the start of this thread shows a tiny glimpse of the fun the cops were gearing up to confront.
Steal2B
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The longer vid showed the "peaceful protesters" were out of hand, throwing shit, and would have gotten bounced from a central Texas cowboy bar on a Saturday night.
Marine Cpl
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Lots of bias here. Lots of opinions already made just because of a side already picked. No different than what BLM, Antifa, liberals, ect do. No different at all. They say cops can do no good and you say cops can do no bad. They aren’t going to say that it was an honest mistake (which it was) and you aren’t going to say that the cop made a mistake.
He shouldn’t have been walking to or talking to the police during a riot. Irrelevant. I shouldn’t be driving during a riot either or my car will get blocked and smashed by protesters.
He shouldn’t have been walking to or talking to the police during a riot. Irrelevant. I shouldn’t be driving during a riot either or my car will get blocked and smashed by protesters.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I should be smart enough not to try to drive or walk to the grocery store or my aunt’s house either. If so, I should get what’s coming to me by the rioters.
spat
.950 JDJ
How would they "put that out there" ? No news station that people like my sister would trust would run the story.
Also, people would not stop calling for heads, even if the story were out there.
The officers behind Floyd's death have been charged with murder, that didn't pacify the mobs one bit.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Try getting in the way of a fire truck or ambulance while they've got the lights and siren going. That's the equivalent of what this guy did.
Says a lot about your character...
E the massive
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Nope. Fire and EMS must operate in a manner to ensure the safety of the public. There is a fancy term I can't remember at the moment.
I would tell them they are stupid and should have known better or fuck with the bull get the horns or do what you can afford.
Same as I once told someone if one of my family members was a heroin addict and didn't want help and kept ODing I wouldn't lose sleep.
They must operate with "due care"
Who here remembers the video of that 12 yo boy that got in that man's face in a park and wouldn't let him pass. Kept cussing at him and this other woman and finally put hands on that adult. That adult shoved and 12 yo hard and most here appaulded no different.
Get in someones face expect reprocussions.
Get in someones face expect reprocussions.
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Blimey
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LMFAO. He was just casually walking in their direction and they shoved him. He was out for a stroll.
Or, did the video actually show him attempting to block 2-3 cops while tapping them with his cellphone--essentially accosting them? Yes, it did.
Had they shoved anybody else and that person didn't trip there would be no case here. Which tells me they acted fine. Which also tells me this old man's fragility should have been his concern, not their's.
There will be no conviction over any charges with this matter.
abcnews.go.com
This guy went looking for a confrontation and he got exactly what he was looking for. My basic rule in life is if you pick a fight and lose don't you dare look for sympathy. That is also how the law generally works.
Or, did the video actually show him attempting to block 2-3 cops while tapping them with his cellphone--essentially accosting them? Yes, it did.
Had they shoved anybody else and that person didn't trip there would be no case here. Which tells me they acted fine. Which also tells me this old man's fragility should have been his concern, not their's.
There will be no conviction over any charges with this matter.
Buffalo police officers arrested after shoving 75-year-old protester
A spokesman for the police department initially reported that the man "tripped and fell" until video of the push was released.
abcnews.go.com
I bolded the ironic part.
This guy went looking for a confrontation and he got exactly what he was looking for. My basic rule in life is if you pick a fight and lose don't you dare look for sympathy. That is also how the law generally works.
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BDinPutnam
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So are they no longer cops?
Does that mean they have to give up all the toys they have on their badges and dispose of any and all mags that hold more than 10 rounds?
Just curious.
Does that mean they have to give up all the toys they have on their badges and dispose of any and all mags that hold more than 10 rounds?
Just curious.
They are suspended. Still police officers.
Not that anybody cares but here's my take on it.
From the position the video was taken I believe that he walked toward the cops looking to start shit and get a reaction from them. When they pushed him he "tripped" and fell. I watched it a few times and the way his feet are moving he didn't fall over from being pushed. And it wasn't a hard shove either. If he really got hurt then he hit his head harder than he planned on and his plan sent him to the hospital.
I see all the things pointed out with the possible tube of fake blood and that it's actually not coming from in his ear. For me there's not enough to say if it was fake or not but if it was faked then you'd think the ems crew would've come forward to back the cops. If they were a part of faking this then they aren't going to get any protection from police when they go into crowds to help injured protesters.
You can argue all day on whether or not to push someone that old. Bottom line is he put his hands on cops while they were trying to do the job they were ordered to do. If he is allowed to do that then they are allowed to get him out of their way as fast as they need to so they can continue doing their job. Once again there is a short clip of something that doesn't show the entire scene unfolding instead of a 5 minute video showing before and after. If there was something going on that they needed to deal with then why wouldn't they keep going? One of them called it in. The others need to keep going to do what they were there for.
If the 2 cops are charged why isn't he?
Either way the city will probably burn. If they didn't charge them the city would riot. Now that they're charged the rest of the force will just sit back and let them riot so they don't get charged with anything.
I don't agree with quite a few of the laws on the books but they're there. If the liberal assholes in charge don't want the police enforcing the laws then remove those laws. You can't have it both ways
From the position the video was taken I believe that he walked toward the cops looking to start shit and get a reaction from them. When they pushed him he "tripped" and fell. I watched it a few times and the way his feet are moving he didn't fall over from being pushed. And it wasn't a hard shove either. If he really got hurt then he hit his head harder than he planned on and his plan sent him to the hospital.
I see all the things pointed out with the possible tube of fake blood and that it's actually not coming from in his ear. For me there's not enough to say if it was fake or not but if it was faked then you'd think the ems crew would've come forward to back the cops. If they were a part of faking this then they aren't going to get any protection from police when they go into crowds to help injured protesters.
You can argue all day on whether or not to push someone that old. Bottom line is he put his hands on cops while they were trying to do the job they were ordered to do. If he is allowed to do that then they are allowed to get him out of their way as fast as they need to so they can continue doing their job. Once again there is a short clip of something that doesn't show the entire scene unfolding instead of a 5 minute video showing before and after. If there was something going on that they needed to deal with then why wouldn't they keep going? One of them called it in. The others need to keep going to do what they were there for.
If the 2 cops are charged why isn't he?
Either way the city will probably burn. If they didn't charge them the city would riot. Now that they're charged the rest of the force will just sit back and let them riot so they don't get charged with anything.
I don't agree with quite a few of the laws on the books but they're there. If the liberal assholes in charge don't want the police enforcing the laws then remove those laws. You can't have it both ways
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
You got to be kidding me!! This will effectively neutralize any officer left . Now if your going to arrest someone, your going to have to ask them nicely . Sir can you please put your hands behind your back so I can cuff you? No? Ok will you please step into the car so I can take you down town? No? OK, Can you please stop stabbing that man ? No?Ok Guess Im done here.
holdover
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Just moments ago, here in DC. Florida National Guard Soldiers from the 53rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team swear in as temporary U.S. Marshals in support of citizens at the Nation’s Capital.
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