Self defense shooting in NM during protests being spun.

[seezur]

This is a pretty interesting story. An armed militia showed up to defend a statue in NM. They eventually backed down and started to leave. At some point a guy in a blue shirt goes into the crowd of protestors (unsure if he was affiliated with the militia guys).

Anyways the protestors chase the dude in blue who attempts to run down the street. They hit him with a skateboard and punch him and one of the peaceful protestors yells “I’m gonna kill you!” and blue shirt guy gets thrown to the ground at which point he fires four shots into one of the assailants. It does look like blue shirt guy sprays them with pepper spray prior to them closing the distance.

Note the news article. They are saying the guy in blue is the violent agitator. The riot police who showed up on scene arrested all the militia members. Seems like there’s a clear message being sent here: if you defend yourself, you will be punished and the cops will arrest you (unless you are a protestor). It’s pretty wild, considering some of these protestors would murder every cop and their family if they could. What’s the path forward? Seems like law abiding citizens can either let these terrorists do what they want to them and hope the cops come when they dial 911, or defend themselves and get crucified. Maybe all law abiding 2A citizens will be outlaws soon?


”News“ article.

Juan de Oñate statue removed following protest that dissolved into chaos

A man was shot at a protest near Old Town Albuquerque Monday evening.

www.kob.com

Incident. Shooting happens second half of video.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Arrested all militia members. Are you awake yet?

 

[holdover]

Somebodys been shot! Call an ambulance ?or keep filming?....hmmmmm. Ill just keep filming ,WTF is wrong with people?

 

[Criticalt]

This is a pretty interesting story. An armed militia showed up to defend a statue in NM. They eventually backed down and started to leave. At some point a guy in a blue shirt goes into the crowd of protestors (unsure if he was affiliated with the militia guys).

Anyways the protestors chase the dude in blue who attempts to run down the street. They hit him with a skateboard and punch him and one of the peaceful protestors yells “I’m gonna kill you!” and blue shirt guy gets thrown to the ground at which point he fires four shots into one of the assailants. It does look like blue shirt guy sprays them with pepper spray prior to them closing the distance.

Note the news article. They are saying the guy in blue is the violent agitator. The riot police who showed up on scene arrested all the militia members. Seems like there’s a clear message being sent here: if you defend yourself, you will be punished and the cops will arrest you (unless you are a protestor). It’s pretty wild, considering some of these protestors would murder every cop and their family if they could. What’s the path forward? Seems like law abiding citizens can either let these terrorists do what they want to them and hope the cops come when they dial 911, or defend themselves and get crucified. Maybe all law abiding 2A citizens will be outlaws soon?


”News“ article.

Juan de Oñate statue removed following protest that dissolved into chaos

A man was shot at a protest near Old Town Albuquerque Monday evening.

www.kob.com

Incident. Shooting happens second half of video.

This is seen in abused dogs and abused children.
The abused will go out of their way to appease their abusers.
I have said this before, even though we are the ones who support the police and support America, we are the enemy now. The police will not tolerate our way of life, their jobs and maybe lives depend on it.
If these militia guys were not arrested, the riots would escalate.
Until we are ready to fight against the far left agitators, the politicians, the media AND the police, we are doomed.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.......and the rioters are the squeaky wheels right now.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I read the story

There is a very clear bias against the milita and pro "peaceful" protestors. The mayor has already politicized this and his verbage sounds eeriely similar to things FUAC would say.

Basically saying that it's ok the mob wanted to terrorize the city and destroy things it's the militia and their violence that we can't tolerate.



If you can't see the bigger picture yet ...

 

[Blimey]

Fully justified.

They were chasing him down the road. He was clearly trying to get away. Then he was attacked with a skateboard. Play stupid games...

These armed "defender" groups need to think about what happens if a crowd does not respect their guns. They are not police, cannot arrest, and their guns are worthless until their lives are in danger, so what is the ROE?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Fully justified.

They were chasing him down the road. He was clearly trying to get away. Then he was attacked with a skateboard. Play stupid games...

These armed "defender" groups need to think about what happens if a crowd does not respect their guns. They are not police, cannot arrest, and their guns are worthless until their lives are in danger, so what is the ROE?

And in 90% of cities it seems the politics, police, mayor, DAs are clearly not on the side of protecting the city or supporting the militia protecting the city that they either choose not to protect or cannot.

So I am not sure why militias are even there. Let it burn.

Protect your homes and neighborhood. That's it.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Arrested all militia members. Are you awake yet?

Because they acted like rational people who respect the law instead of firing on the cops. Huge difference between them and the "protesters" It was the easiest way out at the time. I don't like it but it is what it is.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Fully justified.

They were chasing him down the road. He was clearly trying to get away. Then he was attacked with a skateboard. Play stupid games...

These armed "defender" groups need to think about what happens if a crowd does not respect their guns. They are not police, cannot arrest, and their guns are worthless until their lives are in danger, so what is the ROE?

That's what I saw, as well.

 

[Toecutter]

Violent mob destroying property police only show up when someone defends their life from the mob and arrests him while the violent mob continues to destroy property including police vehicles and police do nothing.

Why are police so shocked that no one is supporting them anymore?

 

[turbobike]

Watch, every Legacy media outlet will make front-page headline!
“Militia Vigilantes attack peaceful Rioters”

 

[Deplorable Me]

From the loonie left:

"The NMCG just gunned down someone in cold blood at a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum" - Democratic Underground Forums

www.democraticunderground.com

 

[spat]

Fully justified.

They were chasing him down the road. He was clearly trying to get away. Then he was attacked with a skateboard. Play stupid games...

These armed "defender" groups need to think about what happens if a crowd does not respect their guns. They are not police, cannot arrest, and their guns are worthless until their lives are in danger, so what is the ROE?

We are rapidly approaching the point where being "law abiding" gets you nothing.

Right now after a justified defensive shooting you should call 911.

If things get much worse you should can that approach and eliminate witnesses and hide bodies instead.

 

[Blimey]

From the loonie left:

"The NMCG just gunned down someone in cold blood at a protest outside the Albuquerque Museum" - Democratic Underground Forums

www.democraticunderground.com

He was literally running away and attacked by a crowd, including at least one person with a deadly weapon (any slashing/bludgeoning object used in an attach qualifies as such). Then despite retreating as aggressively as he can he is knocked on the ground.

Good shoot.

 

[Robin]

So where was the police presence when the rioters were trespassing, tearing down the statue and causing destruction of property, oh, and attacking a bystander, that happened to be armed, and righteously defended himself?
The government of that city wants chaos(?), then if that guy is in jail, his pal's should arm up and bust him out! The time to fight back is long past.
Robin

 

[Blimey]

So where was the police presence when the rioters were trespassing, tearing down the statue and causing destruction of property, oh, and attacking a bystander, that happened to be armed, and righteously defended himself?
The government of that city wants chaos(?), then if that guy is in jail, his pal's should arm up and bust him out! The time to fight back is long past.
Robin

The police stood down while the crowd expressed its passion over social issues.

 

[Steal2B]

Here is the Democratic Liberal Mayor demanding the crackdown on those who resist the currents of change.


He's the snowflake who mentions his struggles at being disabled in to every conversation like a vegan reminds everyone they eat vegan. BTW, he "discovered" he was dyslexic (his disability) half way through his MBA at Harvard.

 

[ProgSpear]

“Rule of law” is a meaningless term to the Left and their mobs. The only thing that counts is who has the conch shell.

 

[seezur]

What’s so harrowing is that the guy who defended himself was obviously, objectively and completely justified as far as I can tell from multiple video angles, and yet it’s looking like they’re going to crucify him. If that’s the case, what’s the point of the 2A? If defending your own life gets you sent to prison (a place where law abiding people naturally do not do well or fit in) what’s the alternative? As someone said above, maybe we are approaching the point in time where we should be following the apparently successful strategy of the protestors, antifa and other gangs i.e. don’t call 911 and instead ditch the weapon. We are being held to impossible standards.

 

[Airborneguy]

Why are police so shocked that no one is supporting them anymore?

Have you actually ever heard a cop say, “I wonder why no one supports us?”

Because I interact with cops about 30,000 times more than you and I’ve never heard it once. We know all the reasons why.

I just hate this figure of speech. It also implies everyone cares. I sure don’t because there’s not a damned thing I can do to change it.

 

[Airborneguy]

We are rapidly approaching the point where being "law abiding" gets you nothing.

Right now after a justified defensive shooting you should call 911.

If things get much worse you should can that approach and eliminate witnesses and hide bodies instead.

Depending on where I was, I would do that now.

If I’m upstate in the middle of nowhere, I highly doubt I am reporting a shooting. Coyotes will take care of the evidence quick enough anyway.

 

[spat]

Depending on where I was, I would do that now.

If I’m upstate in the middle of nowhere, I highly doubt I am reporting a shooting. Coyotes will take care of the evidence quick enough anyway.

I was thinking just the opposite.

I am far more likely to get a reasonable response from the justice system in the middle of nowhere upstate.

It's the major metropolitan areas I would be concerned about.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Because they acted like rational people who respect the law instead of firing on the cops. Huge difference between them and the "protesters" It was the easiest way out at the time. I don't like it but it is what it is.

The main point went right over your head.

 

[BDinPutnam]

If you are involved in a shooting isnt it somewhat a given that you will be taking a ride downtown to straighten things out?

 

[GOPerfect]

Why are police so shocked that no one is supporting them anymore?

I don't know any cop that is surprised. I don't know too many that care. I do not need all to "support" me. I get a fat paycheck. That is what matters to me

 

[Marine Cpl]

If you are involved in a shooting isnt it somewhat a given that you will be taking a ride downtown to straighten things out?

If you are standing in front of your business so that it doesn’t get looted and one guy 3 stores down gets attacked and defended himself, should you get arrested?

This clearly shows what I’ve been saying all along. At what point will we acknowledge that government enforcers do not see us as being on their side?

Just look at the post directly above this one.

 

[GOPerfect]

If we watched this story till the end, my guess is all charges will be dropped. These videos will be watched and he will go home.

 

[Robin]

If you are involved in a shooting isnt it somewhat a given that you will be taking a ride downtown to straighten things out?

No.
Robin

 

[GOPerfect]

Just look at the post directly above this one.

You drive trains. I could care less about your profession. I do not support you and the rest of the drivers. Do you care? I hope all public funded transportation ends. Do you care what I think?

Why should any of us care what the public thinks of us as Law Enforcement?

 

[Blimey]

What’s so harrowing is that the guy who defended himself was obviously, objectively and completely justified as far as I can tell from multiple video angles, and yet it’s looking like they’re going to crucify him. If that’s the case, what’s the point of the 2A? If defending your own life gets you sent to prison (a place where law abiding people naturally do not do well or fit in) what’s the alternative? As someone said above, maybe we are approaching the point in time where we should be following the apparently successful strategy of the protestors, antifa and other gangs i.e. don’t call 911 and instead ditch the weapon. We are being held to impossible standards.

He should be very, very glad for this video.

If he's smart and brings it to trial he needs 12 people to convict. I don't see it happening.