Election Coverage And Results Thread

[tirwin1]

It seems to me the disparity between urban counties and rural/suburban counties is absolutely striking. Most states are a sea of red counties with a small number of blue ones. Yet biden is winning.

I don't believe in the second civil war scenario. But the differences between the two regions - politically, economically and socially are only going to be heightened in the years to come. It strikes me these differences will spark violence in some way, shape or form. I just don't see millions of people donning uniforms waging war.

What I can see is open defiance in rural or suburban areas regarding some unconstitutional mandate from Washington or a state government. Something too big for a state police force to deal with. The next step would be to bring in the national guard. But would they obey? The majority of people in the guard come from rural areas. Would they actually go against their neighbors?

If the national guard either cannot or will not, does the regular military get involved? That is where the potential for significant shooting to occur. Not really a civil war but something more like an insurrection. Something similar to what happened in 1776?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Right around a year. Any less and it will look like the set up it is.

And when exactly have they given a rat's ass about what anything they do looks like?

 

[SomeSoldier]

How can anyone talk about letting this go. The Dems are trying to steal this election. We should be mad as hell. We should be storming DC and telling them to go pound sand.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Me, too and actually I am going to try and take a break from news (very hard) so they can let it out of their system.

I already made this promise to myself if in fact things don't change for the better. First, I am done with Fox. Yes, I'll miss Tucker and Laura and Sean but I can't even fathom their performance from last night based on what played out. Second, I will do my utmost best to never, and I mean not one single solitary time, lay my eyes on or listen to anything that Biden or Harris has to say. Period. A media blackout so to speak. It will take effort but I will make it my mission. It would just be a reminder of the viral hatred I have for those two and the downward spiral of America.

 

[technicalgadget]

Here’s something interesting I received from a buddy. Does the tree of Liberty require a refresh? Has Democracy in America fallen?



Did you watch the election returns on Tuesday night? Did you stay up all night? At about midnight on the east coast, Trump led in all the battleground states by large margins. The betting odds were more than 75% for Trump to win. Then for some unexplainable reason, Wisc, Mich, Pa, NC, and NV all stopped counting votes simultaneously... in unison.... took a "pause" ... at around 1 AM. None of those states counted any additional votes for the next 3 hours. So what did they do for those 3 hours?
Let me point out a couple of things:
1. All of those 5 states have Democrat governors.
2. Suddenly during the 3 hour shut down, in the dead of night when most people were sleeping, all those states found enough votes for Biden to catch Trump. 5 for 5. At midnight in Michigan, Trump was ahead by 5% (400 thousand votes) with 80% of the votes already counted. When the next 10% of votes of about 400,000 were counted from Wayne County (Detroit), then suddenly Biden caught Trump with 90% of the votes in. Biden made up 5% with 10% of the total vote. That means that all the votes (close to 100%) from Wayne went to Biden. That also means that practically all registered voters voted in Wayne County. Does anyone believe any of that is possible? The same thing happened in Madison, Wis, In Raleigh, NC, in Las Vegas, NV, and could be happening in Phil, Pa by Friday. So why did all those Democrat stronghold cities take a "pause" to report their votes?
3. Not one pundit questioned why a shut down in counting votes happened in all those states simultaneously. Not one. Not even on FOX. Not one questioned how almost all of the newly counted votes in those battleground states went to Biden. Only NewsMax pointed out the coincidence of it happening in those 5 states with Democrat governors with Trump ahead before the "pauses."
4. Wisc is now reporting 3,239,920 votes cast when there are only 3,129,000 registered voters on record. More people voted than actually registered. When questioned, the Democrat Sec of State says there are 3.6 million registered voters from late registrations. Even if there are 3.6 million registered voters, that means that 90% of them voted when the average was 55 to 60% across the USA. How did almost all votes from Madison go for Biden? Almost 100% of registered voters, not just votes? Did ballot harvesting happen? How about in those other battleground states?
4. CNN, FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS all refused to call the elections in Tx and Fla until almost all votes were counted, yet FOX called Az only 30 minutes after the polls closed with less than 50% of the votes. Arizona had a million outstanding votes in Republican Maricopa County with Biden ahead in the state by only 100,000 when Az was called for Biden.
If you think that the media cartel was hard at work demonizing Trump for the last 4 years ... 94% negative Trump reports.... then it was in full swing last night at protecting those Democrat governors in the battleground states.
Think about this for a moment: “resist” by Democrats from the first day that Trump was elected, recounts, no peaceful transition of power, impeachment, 3 years of false accusations about Trump colluding with Russia to affect the 2016 election, Mueller, Comey/Clapper/Brennan with the FISA requests and the Steele Dossier paid by Hillary Clinton, 22 FBI agents lost their jobs because of spying on Trump, riots/looting/violence, continued polls that proved to be wrong, $400 billion by Soros and Bloomberg for Biden, Wall Street 4 to 1 in donations to Biden, lack of coverage about the Bidens' relationships with China/Russia/Ukraine/Burisma, and then Covid, covid, covid around the clock by the media ... with little mention of the record economic and international results by Trump.
Covid became the reason for the unsolicited mail out of ballots by Democrat governors. Covid was used to scare voters and to distract them from Trump accomplishments. Covid was used as the reason to shut down economies in Democrat run states. Let's see what happens with Covid now that Democrats and the media no longer need it.
So did those battleground states run by Democrats use ballot harvesting or any other types of election fraud? How did the vote tallies change so dramatically after those Democrat governors "paused" in their election counts in the dead of night? In all 5 Democrat controlled battleground states? If the media, Democrats, and deep state could be in such collusion against Trump for 4 years, then how hard is it to question collusion in ballot counting last night by those Democrat governors?
What gets lost with a Biden election? for starters: any investigation of Biden with Burisma and China, the Barr investigations, the Durham investigations, the investigations of deep state players, and Constitution integrity with DC as a state and with packing the Supreme Court. Democrats had lots on the line so they practiced “the end justifies the means” just as Alinsky instructed. They cheated and the media helped.
Who won the election? Average working Americans lost. Election integrity lost. No matter who won, America got less great.

 

[Vapor]

I'm really wound up. I had a hard time not snapping at my girlfriend. She called and was all happy shopping for Christmas.


I'm trying to stay cool feeling like I'm watching my country die.

If there's no free places to move to at least, what is there to look forward to?

 

[tirwin1]

The thing that bothers me the most besides Biden possibly winning is this. A win would understandably allow the MSM (Maddow, Morning Schmo and all of the pundits), groups like BLM and ANTIFA, the snowflakes, AOC and the crew to celebrate, revel and gloat in the sweet smell of victory as well as do a proverbial victory lap that America agrees with their agenda. That folks burns me more than just about anything. It burns me to my core.

I hear you doc and I agree with you. Yet if you look at their reaction thus far they are shocked that biden didn't win in a landslide. A number of them actually said they wanted the country to repudiate Trump. But it didn't happen. They will take the consolation prize of a biden victory but it will be somewhat hollow, especially since trump made meaningful improvement in capturing minority votes. That scares them. In the ultimate irony trump apparently improved his share of the vote in all demographic segments except white men.

Trump may have started a real realignment in terms of minority votes. That is more frightening to them then the victory of a senile white man.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm really wound up. I had a hard time not snapping at my girlfriend. She called and was all happy shopping for Christmas.


I'm trying to stay cool feeling like I'm watching my country die.

If there's no free places to move to at least, what is there to look forward to?

Not taking anything away from your feelings or the seriousness of the situation. In saying that she isn't the enemy nor is she at fault here. Don't lash out at the ones you love and care for. Life will go on and she is, based on what you said yesterday, an important part of that. Plus, c'mon dude, DD's! I remember a saying I heard years ago when ever bad shit happens. "It's not my life, it's not my wife." A friend of mine who was town supervisor (R) was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last year. He's just happy to still be here. Puts things in perspective. Again, not taking away from the urgency currently but you have to be grateful and appreciative for what you DO have. Regardless we will all have to stay sane and push forward. Now is not the time to cave.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I hear you doc and I agree with you. Yet if you look at their reaction thus far they are shocked that biden didn't win in a landslide. A number of them actually said they wanted the country to repudiate Trump. But it didn't happen. They will take the consolation prize of a biden victory but it will be somewhat hollow, especially since trump made meaningful improvement in capturing minority votes. That scares them. In the ultimate irony trump apparently improved his share of the vote in all demographic segments except white men.

Trump may have started a real realignment in terms of minority votes. That is more frightening to them then the victory of a senile white man.

Roger. I'm just a very bad loser lol.

 

[Airborneguy]

What is this? It looks like Michigan's legit site. Look at the numbers. Wth?

2020 Michigan Official General Election Results - 11/03/2020

mielections.us

 

[Vapor]

Not taking anything away from your feelings or the seriousness of the situation. In saying that she isn't the enemy nor is she at fault here. Don't lash out at the ones you love and care for. Life will go on and she is, based on what you said yesterday, an important part of that. Plus, c'mon dude, DD's! I remember a saying I heard years ago when ever bad shit happens. "It's not my life, it's not my wife." A friend of mine who was town supervisor (R) was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last year. He's just happy to still be here. Puts things in perspective. Again, not taking away from the urgency currently but you have to be grateful and appreciative for what you DO have. Regardless we will all have to stay sane and push forward. Now is not the time to cave.

I absolutely did not snap at her. That's where some of my maturity comes in now. She said she could tell I was stressed but thats it. As a younger man I may not have fared as well.

No, I don't want to steal her happiness.

It's been a rough year with both of us getting covid and all that. I want her to have a happy Christmas time.

She has been on the verge of losing her job. That's one thing I don't have to worry about, quite the opposite. I have to worry about overtime.

Nothing wrong with your post. You are right. I just wanted you to know I didn't act like Pelosi lol

 

[Dr. Evil]

I absolutely did not snap at her. That's where some of my maturity comes in now. She said she could tell I was stressed but thats it. As a younger man I may not have fared as well.

No, I don't want to steal her happiness.

It's been a rough year with both of us getting covid and all that. I want her to have a happy Christmas time.

She has been on the verge of losing her job. That's one thing I don't have to worry about, quite the opposite. I have to worry about overtime.

Nothing wrong with your post. You are right. I just wanted you to know I didn't act like Pelosi lol

When I said the seriousness of the situation I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about you and your response to her, I was referring to the situation we all now find ourselves in due to the election experience so far. Sorry for the mix up.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[libertysnake]

What is this? It looks like Michigan's legit site. Look at the numbers. Wth?

2020 Michigan Official General Election Results - 11/03/2020

mielections.us

Interesting.

Whois lookup for the "mielections.us" points to a LLC called " Michigan Interactive LLC ", and registrant info of:

Registrant Name	Dave Freund
Registrant Organization	Michigan Interactive LLC
Registrant Street	430 W. Allegan
Registrant Street	1st Floor
Registrant City	Lansing
Registrant State/Province	Michigan
Registrant Postal Code	48933
Registrant Country	us
Registrant Phone	+1.5172414341
Registrant Email	dfreund@egov.com

While Michigan.gov is just a plain gov whois, which has no owner per usual.

mieelections.us is hosted on Cloudflare. michigan.gov is hosted on Akamai. Both are what you call a "CDN." Content delivery network where you cache pages close to the physical locations of users.

You wouldn't need both services if both were a legit .gov site. You'd probably use one CDN, not two.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[BuffNiag]

What is this? It looks like Michigan's legit site. Look at the numbers. Wth?

2020 Michigan Official General Election Results - 11/03/2020

mielections.us

It‘s legit but it looks like numbers aren’t up to date.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Interesting.

Whois lookup for the "mielections.us" points to a LLC called " Michigan Interactive LLC ", and registrant info of:

Registrant Name	Dave Freund
Registrant Organization	Michigan Interactive LLC
Registrant Street	430 W. Allegan
Registrant Street	1st Floor
Registrant City	Lansing
Registrant State/Province	Michigan
Registrant Postal Code	48933
Registrant Country	us
Registrant Phone	+1.5172414341
Registrant Email	dfreund@egov.com

While Michigan.gov is just a plain gov whois, which has no owner per usual.

mieelections.us is hosted on Cloudflare. michigan.gov is hosted on Akamai. Both are what you call a "CDN." Content delivery network where you cache pages close to the physical locations of users.

You wouldn't need both services of both were a legit .gov site. You'd probably use one CDN, not two.

I have no freakin' clue what you just said lol but I dig it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[libertysnake]

I have no freakin' clue what you just said lol but I dig it.

Whois registry is a public service for each domain registered with ICANN, which is the main controlling entity for essentially "website" names (domain names). Each domain has information on who registered it. There are public records for registered sites with at least some basic contact info of who or what service registered it. For example, @HEX is using a whois privacy service that protects his identity, and acts as the registrant.

Registrant:

• Name: Whois Agent (111074473)
• Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
• Email: fssnndcjsr@whoisprivacyprotect.com
• Mailing Address: PO Box 639, C/O NYGUNFORUM.COM, Kirkland, WA, 98083, US

 

[Podmonkey]

I don't want to hear this "life will go on" bullshit! China is gonna fuck every American up the ass because our government is going to prostitute us out to them. There will be so much SJW and anti gun bullshit shoved up our ass it'll come out our mouths. Now is the time to show these leftist pussies what a real resistance is, 1776 style. And I swear this, any leftist motherfucker gets in my face, in my way, I will send them to hell!
These democrat worms need to pay!
I ain't laying down for this bullshit ! No fucking way!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I think AZ will turn red by Fri.

 

[Jmac00]

Major Error Found In Arizona Results

On Wednesday, a significant error was discovered that could affect the results of the presidential election in Arizona: Edison Research data, which major news organizations including The New York Times utilize to report voting results, reported that 98% of precincts in Arizona had been counted...

www.dailywire.com

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't want to hear this "life will go on" bullshit! China is gonna fuck every American up the ass because our government is going to prostitute us out to them. There will be so much SJW and anti gun bullshit shoved up our ass it'll come out our mouths. Now is the time to show these leftist pussies what a real resistance is, 1776 style. And I swear this, any leftist motherfucker gets in my face, in my way, I will send them to hell!
These democrat worms need to pay!
I ain't laying down for this bullshit ! No fucking way!

My "life will go on" comment was in reference to @Vapor comment about him saying he was wound up and trying not to snap at his girlfriend. I meant it in respect that their relationship should go on and not be impacted by the situation politically.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Arizona Election Results (Published 2020)

See full results and maps from the Arizona elections.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Doc8404]

Nothing matches

 

[libertysnake]

This is like a stress test out of control at this point.

 

[spat]

"The Libertarians Cost X"

As if people didn't vote L then it would have been a guaranteed R or D.

If Jo was allowed to "delegate" her votes to Trump or Biden which do you think she would do ?

Or would she say "no, they're mine you can't have them, so Biden wins" ?

 

[libertysnake]

If Jo was allowed to "delegate" her votes to Trump or Biden which do you think she would do ?

Or would she say "no, they're mine you can't have them, so Biden wins" ?

Is she allowed to? It's been a while since I've even thought about it.

 

[spat]

They're a great whipping post for whoever loses. I remember in 2016 when the Dems blamed the Green Party lady and Johnson for Clinton's loss. In the runup to the NY gubernatorial race, Larry Sharpe's Facebook posts always had Republicans dressing down all the Libertarians preemptively for costing whats-his-face the sacrificial lamb the election.

The way our system is built a 3rd party can only ever hurt the major party it is most closely aligned to.

2 parties are baked into the architecture of our system.

It happens a lot.

 

[spat]

Is she allowed to? It's been a while since I've even thought about it.

Not now.

On the 2nd she could have announced "this is too important, vote for Trump please". But nothing can be done now.