The Disease is Getting Worse - Push to Legalize Incest

[spat]

Ok, so it doesn't "logically lead to" anything.

You "invent" a scenario and strawman because, let's face it, there is no actual problem beyond "ew I don't like it" and claim "well logically it leads to..."

Like I said, no different than the anti-gay nutters.

It is very frustrating discussing something with someone who puts his fingers in his ears and screams "la la la" every time you make a point he doesn't want to deal with.

I explicitly said it doesn't logically follow from the statement alone. It *does* logically follow from the environment the statement is being made in.

 

[Darth]

It is very frustrating discussing something with someone who puts his fingers in his ears and screams "la la la" every time you make a point he doesn't want to deal with.

I explicitly said it doesn't logically follow from the statement alone. It *does* logically follow from the environment the statement is being made in.

Yeah, try dealing with someone that is shown their argument isn't true and the rebuttal is "yeah, but it COULD be." xD

 

[spat]

Oh, that's right, I didn't read the footnotes, here they are:

"And the reason they got too big was because the got people to believe things they didn't personally like should be banned by said governments. Be it a kid running a lemonade stand without a license of being a jew."

If that's all you think is going on it's no wonder you're so lost on this one.

Let me guess, you think WWI wouldn't have happened if that duke got away, right ?

 

[spat]

Yeah, try dealing with someone that is shown their argument isn't true and the rebuttal is "yeah, but it COULD be." xD

Your ability to defeat straw men is truly impressive.

 

[Darth]

If that's all you think is going on it's no wonder you're so lost on this one.

Let me guess, you think WWI wouldn't have happened if that duke got away, right ?

I'm quite aware what's gong on. The right is pulling the same stunt they always do.

If you legalize weed/gay marriage/porn/... then PEDOPHILIA!

 

[Darth]

Your ability to defeat straw men is truly impressive.

I learned from the best.

"Government is considering removing itself from yet another facet it doesn't belong in."

You: "PEDOPHILLIA!"

 

[spat]

I'm quite aware what's gong on. The right is pulling the same stunt they always do.

If you legalize weed/gay marriage/porn/... then PEDOPHILIA!

The left is successfully arguing that 6 year olds should be able to consent to permanent life altering sexually related surgery and permanent chemical alteration of their life.

Compared to that pedophilia is actually minor.

It's a lot easier to get over some sex than it is to find out your gender was butchered before you were even old enough to understand what gender *was*.

 

[spat]

I learned from the best.

"Government is considering removing itself from yet another facet it doesn't belong in."

You: "PEDOPHILLIA!"

The government hasn't removed itself from anything.

They still claim the power to decide who you can marry. They're just changing who they grant that to.


This is like raising the speed limit from 55 to 65 and calling it a libertarian move. It isn't.

 

[Darth]

The left is successfully arguing that 6 year olds should be able to consent to permanent life altering sexually related surgery and permanent chemical alteration of their life.

Compared to that pedophilia is actually minor.

It's a lot easier to get over some sex than it is to find out your gender was butchered before you were even old enough to understand what gender *was*.

And they are wrong about that.

But again, that has nothing to do with consenting adults.

 

[Darth]

The government hasn't removed itself from anything.

They still claim the power to decide who you can marry. They're just changing who they grant that to.


This is like raising the speed limit from 55 to 65 and calling it a libertarian move. It isn't.

Somewhat right, somewhat wrong.

Government can remove itself from some aspects and not go far enough, like NY did with Marijuana.

No argument there, as stated before, that they simply should not be involved in it.

 

[spat]

And they are wrong about that.

But again, that has nothing to do with consenting adults.

You are missing the point.

They will always limit it to "consenting adults".

They are *currently in the process* of declaring that 6 year olds can be considered "consenting adults" for that sort of thing.

 

[Darth]

You are missing the point.

They will always limit it to "consenting adults".

They are *currently in the process* of declaring that 6 year olds can be considered "consenting adults" for that sort of thing.

And again, they are incorrect.

They can "label" their own gender too. They are just as wrong.

 

[Shoots100]

"Follow the Science"
What does Dr Fauchi have to say about this ?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

We are animals.

And animals do have moral standards by which they live.

Nobody has respect for anyone or there? Does that include yourself? It doesn't include me, that I know. So where are you getting this?

"we' are animals" Well...I don't run around naked...screw in public or piss in a crowd or $hit on open floors. If those are "standards"..You can have them. I don't eat My young or screw My children or Mother. If those are Your standards...then you are an animal.
Respect...yep...I don't respect A LOT of people out there but I do give as I receive to the other portion. That's where I come from.

 

[prambo]

It is very frustrating discussing something with someone who puts his fingers in his ears and screams "la la la" every time you make a point he doesn't want to deal with.

I explicitly said it doesn't logically follow from the statement alone. It *does* logically follow from the environment the statement is being made in.

And that's why the troll is on my ignore list - why waste your time?

Never, repeat NEVER, have I seen him post anything that even remotely followed logic or any recognizable decent moral code - I haven't got the time to waste on rubbish like that.

 

[Darth]

"we' are animals" Well...I don't run around naked...screw in public or piss in a crowd or $hit on open floors. If those are "standards"..You can have them. I don't eat My young or screw My children or Mother. If those are Your standards...then you are an animal.
Respect...yep...I don't respect A LOT of people out there but I do give as I receive to the other portion. That's where I come from.

I'm not sure if you are aware, but none of the things you mentioned makes you "animal." Your biological make up does.

I am glad you said "you can have them." Because that's what this is all about. Nobody really cares what you do, far less what you find "moral" or not. As long as you aren't telling others what to do. Seems like no issue.

As to "respect" good, that seems reasonable. It shows that what you said earlier wasn't true, and it seemed honest.

 

[Darth]

And that's why the troll is on my ignore list - why waste your time?

Never, repeat NEVER, have I seen him post anything that even remotely followed logic or any recognizable decent moral code - I haven't got the time to waste on rubbish like that.

>Puts on ignore list.

>Claims "I'm never seen him post..."

That seems about right.

 

[Dr. Evil]

And that's why the troll is on my ignore list - why waste your time?

Never, repeat NEVER, have I seen him post anything that even remotely followed logic or any recognizable decent moral code - I haven't got the time to waste on rubbish like that.

Been there, done that lol. Kind of like how China was way ahead of us going through the rona, I went through those symptoms and correction some time ago.

 

[Darth]

And, much like the rest of the "medical advice" you give, nothing has changed.

 

[Robin]

To quote that philosopher of the ages,
'It's like deja vu all over again' It makes sense, someplace.
Y. Berra
Robin

 

[Varmint]

Nope...marrying uncle daddy or aunt mommy is just wrong...deliverance redux

 

[spat]

And again, they are incorrect.

They can "label" their own gender too. They are just as wrong.

They certainly are incorrect. But that doesn't mean it isn't logical to assume they will proceed along the obvious path.

 

[Grimscale]

I'm not sure if you are aware, but none of the things you mentioned makes you "animal." Your biological make up does.

What on Earth are you rambling on about.
"biology" doesn't make one creature an animal and another not. In the broadest definition of the term every living thing that is not a plant or single-cell organism is an "animal".

We use the term "animal" as an adjective to describe non-sentient behavior.

 

[Darth]

In the broadest definition of the term every living thing that is not a plant or single-cell organism is an "animal".

...so your biological make up makes you an animal or not.

Boy, that's what I said.

 

[Grimscale]

...so your biological make up makes you an animal or not.

Boy, that's what I said.

Ahh..

so, with everyone else talking about behavior, you decided to just say "all humans are animals".

Nice little factoid there. Technically true, but completely misses the substance of the discussion.

Thanks for playing, though.

 

[Darth]

Ahh..

so, with everyone else talking about behavior, you decided to just say "all humans are animals".

Nice little factoid there. Technically true, but completely misses the substance of the discussion.

Thanks for playing, though.

There was only one person that mentioned it, and in a sea of people that belive that humans are not animals and were "created human" or some such nonsense I stated that so we didn't go off on some tangent.

You thought you were gonna hit it out of the park and you fouled off, it happens.

 

[Saltwater60]

Well no, this is what the anti gay marriage people always do.

There is nothing wrong with polygamy berween commenting adults and pedophilia does not involve consenting adults. Where is the confusion?

I stand by what I said. I’ll even toss in transgendered people in the mix and how they will justify pedo’s and it not being a crime anymore.

That’s fine think what you want with polygamy and I don’t even care if they legalize it. When they do I’ll marry my guns because legally it should be harder for them to take them from me.

 

[Darth]

I stand by what I said. I’ll even toss in transgendered people in the mix and how they will justify pedo’s and it not being a crime anymore.

That’s fine think what you want with polygamy and I don’t even care if they legalize it. When they do I’ll marry my guns because legally it should be harder for them to take them from me.

I don't care what you do. That's the great thing. It's not as if any of these affect what you will or must do with your own choices.

 

[Saltwater60]

The logic of "consenting adults should be able to do what they wish" doesn't lead to pedophilia.

But many of the most powerful people making that argument are doing so for the express purpose of eventually reaching that goal.

So, while it doesn't follow directly from the logic of the statement, it is logical to conclude that is where this is heading.

You are welcome to remain willfully blind to the way the world works, and human nature.

But don't expect sympathy when you are unpleasantly surprised by the endpoint.

What I said and what I’ll stand by is the way gays were portrayed back in the day was the way transgendered people were portrayed a short time ago and is the way pedophilia is being portrayed now. There is a movement gaining steam now to make it legal/acceptable. They justified gay marriage as love is love so what happens if you love little kids? Why wouldn’t that eventually become ok. Now people say well we need to help them and it’s a mental illness not a criminal offense. Gosh even law and order just had an episode in how if pedophiles are on the sex offender registry how they almost never reoffend. It’s all about slowly changing public perception and I feel that’s what’s happening right now toward pedophiles.

I completely understand where you’re coming from on two concerning adults and pedophilia being different at face value but I see pedophilia legalization gaining steam. I’ll bet if you asked people 30 years ago they’d say we will never see gay marriage or transgendered being cool and accepted.

 

[Darth]

What I said and what I’ll stand by is the way gays were portrayed back in the day was the way transgendered people were portrayed a short time ago and is the way pedophilia is being portrayed now. There is a movement gaining steam now to make it legal/acceptable. They justified gay marriage as love is love so what happens if you love little kids? Why wouldn’t that eventually become ok. Now people say well we need to help them and it’s a mental illness not a criminal offense. Gosh even law and order just had an episode in how if pedophiles are on the sex offender registry how they almost never reoffend. It’s all about slowly changing public perception and I feel that’s what’s happening right now toward pedophiles.

I completely understand where you’re coming from on two concerning adults and pedophilia being different at face value but I see pedophilia legalization gaining steam. I’ll bet if you asked people 30 years ago they’d say we will never see gay marriage or transgendered being cool and accepted.

Ask a little further back and you'd have the slippery slope argument on blacks having the right to vote.