Airsoft as training for real firearms (video proof of concept)

[Phazer]

Here is a video that shows a Japanese guy, from Japan, that has only trained with airsoft pistols and airsoft MSRs for 3 years. He has become extremely facile with these "guns." He was brought to the U.S. to try some real pistols and rifles.

Check out how fast he adapts to real calibers. On the rifle, he does really amazing. Most impressive is his malfunction handling. His muscle memory from using airsoft appears to have translated perfectly to standard firearms.

I...am...impressed.


Here is Liku training with airsoft in Japan:

 

[Marine Cpl]

Not only is the dry fire and manual of arms good practice with airsoft, you can also practice patrolling and other tactics.

 

[Celt]

I'm a big believer in this, and I also practice with my airsoft rifle and Glock 19 replica. Like Will said, all the fire controls and weapon manipulation is the same as a real gun. As well as working on your transitions from Target to Target and between weapons as well.

It's a great way to train if you don't have time to get to the range. It's also a good tool to teach younger shooters and to let them get comfortable.

 

[Blimey]

If I could shoot in my yard I'd do this, very impressive.

 

[Phazer]

If I could shoot in my yard I'd do this, very impressive.

Where I live, I'd never use my Glock 19 airsoft pistol in my yard. People here would call the police in seconds.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Something like this in your garage with targets set up would be pretty cool even if you have property to shoot on. You can't sleep. Go to the garage. No noise.

 

[Jaywmustang]

Always wanted to try playing airsoft

 

[Defilade]

Where I live, I'd never use my Glock 19 airsoft pistol in my yard. People here would call the police in seconds.

Really? Get out of that dump!

 

[Rap]

Something like this in your garage with targets set up would be pretty cool even if you have property to shoot on. You can't sleep. Go to the garage. No noise.

Setting up my basement shooting gallery currently.

 

[Celt]

Setting up my basement shooting gallery currently.

I have my basement set up as well. I have a system set up so the BB's don't scatter all over the house and I can reuse them. Even though bbs are dirt cheap, makes no sense to throw them out when I have so many of them.
As you said in the other thread, too bad you weren't closer.


I think a lot of people have started getting into it because finding certain airsoft guns online now has become very difficult and they seem to be sold out.

I used to get to my own private shooting range on my parents property once a month, now I'm lucky if I get there three or four times a year. I don't really care for going to Conventional shooting ranges where you're just standing still shooting, so the airsoft training I've been doing is really a great way to kind of scratch that itch, as well as get what I consider to be some good repetitions in for the mechanics and movement with gun handling.

 

[Celt]

After 15,000+ rounds and 7 years my KSC glock 19 gen 3 airsoft replica has died. This past year I have probably put about 1/2 of that through it. Its time for a replacement. Ive been researching and it seems the Umarex licensed glock replicas are the best bet. Im going to get a gen 4 17 replica this time around.

@OnSight Firearms Training , Im remember you saying you had airsoft, what are you using?

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

After 15,000+ rounds and 7 years my KSC glock 19 gen 3 airsoft replica has died. This past year I have probably put about 1/2 of that through it. Its time for a replacement. Ive been researching and it seems the Umarex licensed glock replicas are the best bet. Im going to get a gen 4 17 replica this time around.

@OnSight Firearms Training , Im remember you saying you had airsoft, what are you using?

GLOCK G19 GEN 3 GBB AIRSOFT BB GUN PISTOL 6MM : ELITE FORCE - UMAREX

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Glock G17 Gen 4 CO2 6mm Airsoft Pistol

buy Glock G17 Gen 4 CO2 6mm Airsoft Pistol online

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Current fave:

GLOCK G17 GEN 5 GBB - 6MM - BLACK

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[Acer-m14]

i got this

GLOCK G19 GEN 3 .177 BB PISTOL

buy GLOCK G19 GEN 3 .177 BB PISTOL online

www.umarexusa.com

no orange tip lol .. and have a Beretta full auto one too .. both replica's

just asking .. why airsoft plastic bb's over steel bb's ??

 

[Celt]

GLOCK G19 GEN 3 GBB AIRSOFT BB GUN PISTOL 6MM : ELITE FORCE - UMAREX

buy GLOCK G19 GEN 3 GBB AIRSOFT BB GUN PISTOL 6MM : ELITE FORCE - UMAREX online

www.umarexusa.com

Glock G17 Gen 4 CO2 6mm Airsoft Pistol

buy Glock G17 Gen 4 CO2 6mm Airsoft Pistol online

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Current fave:

GLOCK G17 GEN 5 GBB - 6MM - BLACK

buy GLOCK G17 GEN 5 GBB - 6MM - BLACK online

www.eliteforceairsoft.com

Good stuff, Id like to get a gen 5 17 but i dont see any in stock so ill be good with a gen 4. It seems that the Umarex is the way to go.

 

[Celt]

i got this

GLOCK G19 GEN 3 .177 BB PISTOL

buy GLOCK G19 GEN 3 .177 BB PISTOL online

www.umarexusa.com

no orange tip lol .. and have a Beretta full auto one too .. both replica's

just asking .. why airsoft plastic bb's over steel bb's ??

I like the plastic bbs over metal as i buy the biodegradable ones, and If I ever end up trying some milsim airsoft I will have the right tools for it.

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

i got this


just asking .. why airsoft plastic bb's over steel bb's ??

Have you not ever done force on force training?
Highly recommend the plastic airsoft BBS over using Steel BBs for force on force. Just my opinion, you do you though.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Always wanted to try playing airsoft

Until you see how expensive it can get (you could do it inexpensively, or if you are a gear nerd/nut like myself and want actually real gear to LARP)

 

[Celt]

Have you not ever done force on force training?
Highly recommend the plastic airsoft BBS over using Steel BBs for force on force. Just my opinion, you do you though.

Ben, do you allow students to use their own airsoft guns for FoF training? And are you going to have any FoF classes coming up?

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

Ben, do you allow students to use their own airsoft guns for FoF training? And are you going to have any FoF classes coming up?

YES and YES.

 

[Jaywmustang]

Until you see how expensive it can get (you could do it inexpensively, or if you are a gear nerd/nut like myself and want actually real gear to LARP)

I’m with you on that. I would larp the crap out of it. Don’t mind my gut hanging out of the bottom on my fake body armor lol

 

[Edwardteach72]

I’m with you on that. I would larp the crap out of it. Don’t mind my gut hanging out of the bottom on my fake body armor lol

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

YES and YES.

Post up more info when available this is very interesting.

I know first hand experience airsoft pellets don't feel good when you get hit especially close ramge but it sounds like a great training idea for a class.

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

Dec 10th Carmel, NY

 

[GOPerfect]

I did some great force on force training using Airsoft in the Military, many times. Great training indeed.

Best of all? The training was free and I got paid to do it.

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

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[Celt]

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I just reserved my spot, who else is going to run this course with me?

 

[GOPerfect]

I just reserved my spot, who else is going to run this course with me?

I am too cheap to pay for training

 

[Celt]

I am too cheap to pay for training

I hear you, I do a ton on my own, but formal training classes are actually a fun day out as well as helping me improve my skills.

On top of that, as much as I enjoy training on my own, it does get boring sometimes so training with like-minded individuals adds to the experience.

 

[OnSight Firearms Training]

I hear you, I do a ton on my own, but formal training classes are actually a fun day out as well as helping me improve my skills.

On top of that, as much as I enjoy training on my own, it does get boring sometimes so training with like-minded individuals adds to the experience.

When you train on your own, do you teach yourself stuff you already know?
How do you teach yourself things you don't know? What if there are things you should be training that you aren't aware exist?
Or is it OK because if you don't know it, then it probably doesn't exist?

Not giving you shit, just seriously curious.

To this day I still try to get in as many classes of all levels as I can, as every instructor out there can teach you something or diagnose something you maybe can't see or didn't know you are doing.

 

[Celt]

When you train on your own, do you teach yourself stuff you already know?
How do you teach yourself things you don't know? What if there are things you should be training that you aren't aware exist?
Or is it OK because if you don't know it, then it probably doesn't exist?

Not giving you shit, just seriously curious.

To this day I still try to get in as many classes of all levels as I can, as every instructor out there can teach you something or diagnose something you maybe can't see or didn't know you are doing.

Training on my own is largely things Ive learned from classes or YT. But I always learn something new in class, for instance, my last class with you taught me something new about gripping the pistol, thumbs up.

Along with other drills.