Chip shortage vs Oil, steel, rubber, and everything else that causes war.at

[BerettaGuy]

https://www.audacy.com/wben/news/chip-shortage-causes-furloughs-at-tonawana-gm-plant I hope none of you are affected. But as I see what is going on today, I wonder what our parents felt when reading the headlines of the 1930s. (Replace chips with oil, or steel.) WW1 has been on pause for 60 years now. I fear not much longer . (That's right, WWII was just a continuation of the first.) The league of nations defined every war since then.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Let just hope that Texas' offer to Samsung gets them making chips here.

 

[Saltwater60]

This isnt just the tonawanda plant it’s pretty much all GM plants in the us. I think Volkswagen has shutdown nearly all plants as well. It’s getting very bad.
It’s not just car makers either. This will effect everything from truck drivers all the way through to the diner up the street from the plant. This will effect millions. Parts suppliers, tire makers, construction workers. This is horrible and this administration is doing nothing good to help it. I sure hope people remember this when voting. Now I’m just being ridiculous.

 

[livingston]

I really don't know how one plans for this . This spring it took almost 3 months to get a John deere battery in. .Some places I look at and in the comments section brake pads were hard to get. ... Our cars are so difficult to keep running if things start going south. You have this sensor and that sensor . They go bad ... Next your cat will not pass inspection. Could one go 3 months without that car... Waiting on a needed part. .. One cannot buy everything that one MIGHT need ..

 

[spat]

This isnt just the tonawanda plant it’s pretty much all GM plants in the us. I think Volkswagen has shutdown nearly all plants as well. It’s getting very bad.
It’s not just car makers either. This will effect everything from truck drivers all the way through to the diner up the street from the plant. This will effect millions. Parts suppliers, tire makers, construction workers. This is horrible and this administration is doing nothing good to help it. I sure hope people remember this when voting. Now I’m just being ridiculous.

It's hard to find a product they haven't squeezed chips into anymore.

Some offer real improvements, some not so much.

Does my refrigerator *really* need to connect to the internet ? Or does it just need to be a big box that's colder on the inside ?

 

[Acer-m14]

when the truckers are down .. your not gunna have food at save a lot ..

 

[Saltwater60]

when the truckers are down .. your not gunna have food at save a lot ..

Well the government will help me out right? Joe Biden said he cares about me and don’t send out mean tweets!!

 

[Deplorable Me]

No shortage of bullshit, oh wait, the government manufacturers it and has a monopoly.

 

[SonOfSun]

No shortage of bullshit, oh wait, the government manufacturers it and has a monopoly.

One of the few thing that is still produced 100% domestically

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

We're basically watching the supply chain breaking in slow motion.

People need to get back to work and building, shipping and transporting things ASAP.

The problem is our supply chain has been developed and tuned for "efficiency, price/cheapness, and speed" instead of lots of "on hand stock quantity and reliability.

"Just in time" is clearly failing right now

 

[tirwin1]

Things are coming full circle. The advent of "just in time" inventory was based on an assumption of no real limits due to open borders and world trade. Companies may not like having to spend a lot of money to build inventories but it's beats the alternative of having nothing to sell.

 

[SonOfSun]

We're basically watching the supply chain breaking in slow motion.

People need to get back to work and building, shipping and transporting things ASAP.

The problem is our supply chain has been developed and tuned for "efficiency, price/cheapness, and speed" instead of lots of "on hand stock quantity and reliability.

"Just in time" is clearly failing right now

Depends. The problem with JIT (just in time) isn't the system, it's the misuse of the system. Dickwad MBAs heard that getting rid of excess inventory is good and saves money, by delivering on demand they can be more cost efficient and they took that to mean get rid of as much inventory as you can. What they failed and still continue to fail to realize is that not all inventory is excess. Not all supply chains are equal. There are few computer chip suppliers, disruptions are inevitable. If Chips are critical to your business being profitable and the supply chain has little elasticity or few suppliers then inventory of them is not an excess. They seem to be making car doors just fine, turns out there are dozens of suppliers of polymers for the doors. Proper JIT takes into consideration the durability and elasticity of the supply chain in question. JIT is fine, USA MBA style JIT is a failure waiting to happen.

 

[That_FNG]

Just in case I decided to get rid of any body armor and plate carriers at my residence. They have all been replaced with man portable bullet proof targets that can easily be transported in a vest target all in one carrier. Even has two grab handles at the top for ease of transport, can hold 4 bullet proof targets in individual slots plus has handy ammo / spare magazine pouches for the range.

it looks something like this :

 

[Vapor]

Might have to do things some of the old ways.

And what, 25% remember how to do any of it?

 

[spat]

Might have to do things some of the old ways.

And what, 25% remember how to do any of it?

You missed a decimal point. We're lucky if it's 2.5%

 

[camper4lyfe]

Depends. The problem with JIT (just in time) isn't the system, it's the misuse of the system. Dickwad MBAs heard that getting rid of excess inventory is good and saves money, by delivering on demand they can be more cost efficient and they took that to mean get rid of as much inventory as you can. What they failed and still continue to fail to realize is that not all inventory is excess. Not all supply chains are equal. There are few computer chip suppliers, disruptions are inevitable. If Chips are critical to your business being profitable and the supply chain has little elasticity or few suppliers then inventory of them is not an excess. They seem to be making car doors just fine, turns out there are dozens of suppliers of polymers for the doors. Proper JIT takes into consideration the durability and elasticity of the supply chain in question. JIT is fine, USA MBA style JIT is a failure waiting to happen.

No need to wait, the failure is here.

JIT is also a huge reason the lumber prices went full retard.

 

[jimc]

Funny how the vaccine supply chain isn't seeing any issues....

 

[spat]

Funny how the vaccine supply chain isn't seeing any issues....

Yet. Imagine who the target of all the desperate people pissed because they just lost their job will be ?


That shit's fragile.