Should the CIA be abolished?

Yes. Both the CIA and the FBI are fatally compromised. Both agencies should be abolished and a law passed that prevents any ex-employee from having any job in law enforcement, up to and including dog catcher.

These two agencies were supposed to protect us from foreign enemies (CIA) and domestic enemies (FBI). They both conspired to overthrow the president and ruined relations between this country and Russia as a result. When the agencies charged with protecting the country become its biggest threat then it is time to eliminate them both and start over.

Yes.

They may occasionally do some good work in America's best interests, but it's absolutely overshadowed by the danger they present to America.

Don't forget, NSA, DEA, ATF, DoE, DoI, DHS, FBI and all the other smaller agencies the spawned off these.

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And BLM, the government one.

Hell no I don't want cia abolished. How the hell would I spell .38 Special? .38 Spel...who the hell wants that?

No.

A full reset is needed though.

A full reset.

GOPerfect said:

No.

A full reset is needed though.

A full reset.

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This works also.

GOPerfect said:

No.

A full reset is needed though.

A full reset.

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We need an intelligence agency.

We do not need that one.

It's beyond reform. Needs to be burned to the ground and a brand new one built from scratch.

Maybe some low level agents can be retained, but nobody in management higher than a 1st level supervisor.

No..................only Democrats, CCP agents, anarchists, terrorists, greenies, are the real problem...they infiltrated the intell agencies..................fat, ugly, commie cat ladies, the sexually deranged, and communist believers, intended to surrender it all to China, next year.

Commisar Hochul will tell you.

I believe all these dam Non-elected Alphabet agencies are money laundering schemes. Get rid of them all! They were all created to steal money or force an agenda I.M.O.....Even RFK stated in a video that he believes the CIA Murdered his Uncle.You have to ask, Why was the CIA created?? Are they even legal??

One example of the CIA

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ALL AMERICAN WARS SINCE WWII HAVE BEEN CREATED NOT FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM BUT FOR SEX DRUGS, WEAPON TRADES, AND MONEY LAUNDERING...

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After WWII, compartmentalised secret fractions inside NSA, CIA, British Intelligence Mi5 and Mi6 and other government agencies got involved in the drug market. They are now behind all the illegal global drug market.
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Money from the global drug market are used to fund wars, black budgets and secret projects around the world. This video includes clips from mainsteam media at the time, CBS etc.

ARKANSAS GOVERNOR BILL CLINTON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH CIA DRUGS FOR GUNS CONNECTION By Paul DeRienzo An independent group of researchers in Arkansas are charging that Governor Bill Clinton is covering up an airport used by the CIA and major cocaine smugglers in a remote corner of the Ozark mountains.
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According to Deborah Robinson of In These Times, the Inter mountain Regional Airport in Mena,Arkansas continues to be the hub of operations for people like assassinated cocaine kingpin Barry Seal as well as government intelligence operations linked to arms and drug smuggling.
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In the 1980's, the Mena airport became one of the world's largest aircraft refurbishing centers, providing services to planes from many countries.Researchers claim that the largest consumers of aircraft refurbishing services are drug smugglers and intelligence agencies involved in covert activities.
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In fact, residents of Mena, Arkansas, have told reporters that former marine Lt. Colonel Oliver North was a frequent visitor during the 1980's. Eugene Hasenfus, a pilot who was shot down in a Contra supply plane over Nicaragua in 1986, was also seen in town renting cargo vehicles. A federal Grand Jury looking into activities at the Mena airport refused to hand down any indictments after drug running charges were made public.
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Deborah Robinson says that Clinton had "ignored the situation" until he began his presidential campaign." Clinton then said he would provide money for a state run investigation of the Mena airport. But according to Robinson, the promise of an investigation was never followed up by Clinton's staff. In fact, a local Arkansas state prosecutor blasted Clinton's promise of an investigation, comparing it to "spitting on a forest fire."«
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lrick said:

Hell no I don't want cia abolished. How the hell would I spell .38 Special? .38 Spel...who the hell wants that?

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Is it really so "Special"?

Look what the FBI did during Jan 6th. They dressed up as Trump supporters trying to stir all kinds of trouble. Get rid of these 3 letter agencies. They never exisited decades back. Same holds true with the TSA, Created out of 911 for "Safety".

K9Patriot said:

The problem with agencies such as the CIA is that it's inevitable for evil people to abuse its powers. Once a Demonrat returns to the White House they'll appoint a fellow Demonrat and all sorts of horrible things will again happen.

I say abolish it.

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It's because of the secrecy.

By their nature, those agencies need to operate in secret.

That makes proper oversight *very* difficult.

And then the claims of "national security" are more often used to cover up embarrassment, corruption, or incompetence than they are actual national secrets.

People start building little personal empires in the organization, and their loyalty tends to be to the organization before the country, and even their little political faction over the agency.

It's a problem inherent to any organization that keeps secrets like that.

Then throw in the fact that they break laws in other countries as a matter of course for their job, and they're *expected* to do so and now you have a perfect recipe for rogue unaccountable fiefdoms.

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It's because of the secrecy.

By their nature, those agencies need to operate in secret.

That makes proper oversight *very* difficult.

And then the claims of "national security" are more often used to cover up embarrassment, corruption, or incompetence than they are actual national secrets.

People start building little personal empires in the organization, and their loyalty tends to be to the organization before the country, and even their little political faction over the agency.

It's a problem inherent to any organization that keeps secrets like that.

Then throw in the fact that they break laws in other countries as a matter of course for their job, and they're *expected* to do so and now you have a perfect recipe for rogue unaccountable fiefdoms.

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Get rid of the ENTIRE criminal alphabet gang!!! They no longer work for the United States of America! And FIRE every phuckin one of`em! Put them to work in the fields picking fruit and veggies! I`m sure trump can find them all jobs driving garbage trucks and picking up garbage!

FP1201 said:

Is it really so "Special"?

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Not really. But it's "special" kinda like the kid that barely belongs in the class. Or the participation trophy of plausible ammo rounds.

K9Patriot said:

The practice that the DOJ has a monopoly on jurisdiction is a big problem. The AG and the Fed have WAY too much power. When the Fed goes corrupt there is little to no recourse. There should be a system wherein a state or a coalition of states can pursue criminal matters with just as much authority as the DOJ. After all, the DOJ needs to be policed too.

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What we need is to drastically reduce their jurisdiction.

Federal law enforcement's jurisdiction should be *only* government employees and foreign threats.

They should be going after corrupt state and federal actors, and things like international terrorism.

Any crimes committed by private citizens should be the exclusive jurisdiction of the states.

If the FBI does stumble across something in the course of their duties, they should be referring it to some state police agency.

There is far to much power hidden in these government groups.

Far to much secrecy in these groups.

Most of them are needed, but the need is greater to fix them.

There are over 5,000, Federal Departments, Agencies, Bureaus, Offices, Commissions, etc etc No one knows how many.




Intell Community...........

The United States Intelligence Community (IC) is made up of 18 agencies and organizations, and many other secure information gathering and LE ability methods.

These organizations include two independent agencies (ODNI and CIA), nine elements from the Department of Defense (DIA, NSA, NGA, NRO, and intelligence elements from the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force), and seven elements from other departments and agencies (including those from the Departments of Energy, Homeland Security, Justice, State, and Treasury).

There are many more than this list that work with the 5,000 other Fed Gov alphabet soup groups.

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There is far to much power hidden in these government groups.

Far to much secrecy in these groups.

Most of them are needed, but the need is greater to fix them.

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I'm willing to bet that most of them are not needed. Some probably are but most are not.

No.

Political oversight and appointees need to be. All systems need an anima allowing self grown professionals who have zero F’s which pretend party is in charge to progress and run their professions.

Unelected Body. Illegal. We never had one for 170 years! Get rid of it!