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That is why I said all. That was the key word. All...
spat
.950 JDJ
72% of Palestinians supported the Oct 7th attack. It's not a small minority.
If it *was* a small minority oppressing the majority, they should welcome the IDF deposing their oppressors.
Poll shows Palestinians back Oct. 7 attack on Israel, support for Hamas rises | Reuters https://share.google/plILkxVL7bI8yLYLF
Hamas has higher support among the Palestinians than the Nazi's did in Germany.
This conflict is fueled directly by the western dupes who blame Isreal for bombing a missile launcher on a hospital roof, and not Hamas for putting it there and forcing women and children into the building to be Martyrs.
It's a direct relationship. Every headline or comment that bemoans the suffering after such an attack is a directly responsible for Hamas setting up the next one.
Isreal can't just let Hamas lob rockets into their cities forever without responding just because Hamas straps some innocents to the launchers, that's insane.
Isreal *does* announce the strikes and warn the innocents to get away, but Hamas won't let them. Isreal cares more about the innocent Palestinians than Hamas does.
spat
.950 JDJ
If you could get *all* people to act like decent human beings, a lot of problems would go away, and we would have the greatest golden age in history.
But, human nature gets in the way, and even if you *could* fix that, I seriously doubt any of us would like the fix.
Show me a whole town that has been flatten as I have shown you then we will talk. Women and children in the thousands murdered. I have many other videos showing such.
Neither the japanese nor the germans hit any of our major cities in world war II. But we flattened most of theirs. Hundreds of thousands of women and children were killed. Once again FAFO.
Ignorance would be your sleeve. Better bone up on the influence and power of AIPAC within our own Government. Dual Citizenship also. How about The "Noahide Laws" of Talmudic Judaism: Implemented to Execute all Christians?
spat
.950 JDJ
Oh, wait, that was a residential district in Tokyo in 1945.
And all over a couple boats, what an over reaction.
No, that was the FO phase of suckerpunching a much stronger opponent.
Gaza has gotten off *way* easy on their FO compared to their FA.
They could have avoided most of it by just turning over the women and children they took as hostages instead of raping them to death. Nope, no sympathy for that. They brought it all on themselves, and a lot more.
Israel is not the Jewish nation, Bibi and his henchmen are fake actors, mongrel Goya who deceive us by wearing a kippah and changing their names to something that sounds Yiddish, which isn't even the language of the Jews.
The fake Prime Minister, of fake Israel real name isn't even Benjamin Netanyahu, his real name is Benzion Mileikowsky (Bibi), he is a Polish Goya, a gentile acting as a Jew, leading a Satanic cult who are not the chosen people by any stretch of your imagination and are at aww no the land of Palestine by genocide of the inhabitants. Real Jews are actually protesting against this Israel cult.
spat
.950 JDJ
I've gone down the rabbit hole on your other favorite conspiracy theory, I have no desire to add another.
I am sure there are Jews working against our interests in government. Schumer is practically a walking stereotype himself. But I don't think it's any more prevalent among them than it is any other Democrats.
I *don't* think there is some secret cabal behind it all. The globalists are quite open about their aims and memberships, and the only religion they really subscribe to is leftism.
spat
.950 JDJ
What makes a nation "fake" ?
All nations are political boundaries invented by people. Is the US "fake" too ? What countries aren't "fake" ?
With that mindset we should just nuke Mexico as they don't police their border and allow all these illegals in. The compounded financial burden with all the rapes and murderers make the boats childs play.
spat
.950 JDJ
What do you think we would do if Mexico pulled an Oct 7th, then continued to lob missiles into the US ?
B52s would be involved.
Every generation or two you need to remind people not to fuck with you.
But is Bibi (or whatever his name is) a lizard? Isn't that the real question?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So, we had a homo, atheist, muslim, non-citizen president, Bibi pales in comparison.
Robin
Robin
Wouldn't surprise me any. Lizards everywhere.
Like I said. You don't have to do that. They do more damage within our culture by stealing our money via social services. Rape, murder, theft. Then they grab positions of power. Next ya know we have sharia law or No hide laws.
spat
.950 JDJ
We can have 2 things we need to do to defend ourselves at the same time.
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
I dunno about that. Bin Laden's primary (and explicitly stated) goal was to get the US out of Saudi Arabia specifically, and the Middle East in general.
In other words, he was motivated almost entirely by our lack of isolationism.
When we put soldiers in other countries, we're often not very good guests. And even if we were... how do you think most Americans would feel about foreign countries building military bases in our country, regardless of how nice they were? And remember, we're not a nice presence.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
The problem is the Muslims want to force their religion on us one way or another. It’s not just a religion it’s a way of life.
Some in other religions do this as well and I disagree with it when they do it as well. However these other religions don’t generally bring violence at this point as Muslims do.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Correct. We have created a lot of this because of what you said.
spat
.950 JDJ
There are a lot of people who complain about a US base nearby, but there are a lot more who would complain about us leaving. The economic activity a US base generates is all that's supporting some nearby towns.
"Americans are rude" is not enough to offset "if they leave, they'll take all the jobs with them".
With very few exceptions, we only build bases where we are invited. The fact that a loud minority wants us gone doesn't cancel out the fact that we were invited in, and we would leave if asked by the actual government.
spat
.950 JDJ
It almost seems like a phase an adolescent religion goes through. Christianity out grew that centuries ago, but Islam is relatively young by comparison.
OwnTheRide
.223 Rem
You greatly misunderstand what I meant by "we are not a nice presence." I wasn't talking about our manners. I was talking about the rapes, robberies, beatings, murders, and all sorts of other shit that occurs and are rarely held to account, or in some cases are even sanctioned. Particularly and especially in hostile or semi-hostile territory, such as anywhere in the Middle East.
Stories of this type of behavior are all over the place... in Germany, in Korea, etc. And those are friendly first-world nations. Just imagine how bad it is in hostile nations where the media is easily suppressed by the government and/or occupying force.
Now before anyone flies off the handle, I'm not saying our military is a big group of murdering rapists. I'm saying some small percentage of it is, and when that percentage finds themselves in places with reduced or even no accountability, shit gets real ugly real quick.
That said, I'm not completely refuting your points quoted above. In a lot of cases, what you say is true. Cases like Germany, Korea, Poland, etc. It's a lot less true in the Middle East, and you pointed out why in your phrasing... "by the actual government." Governments in third world countries do not represent the people. They represent the government. The Saudi royal family wants us in their country because our presence ensures they stay in power. Don't for a second believe that means the people want us there.
spat
.950 JDJ
You have some good points, but I think they apply more to *any* military base, than American one in particular. Some of that is inevitable when you get a large population of young men in one location.
I don't believe American soldiers are generally any less well behaved than other nations troops.
I think that probably applies even *more* strongly in the middle east. If the locals resent an American base due to some crime, imagine replacing those soldiers with Saudis.
The part of that that I feel people don't understand is simply that under the Religion they fervently practice, anything they do to a non-Muslim is wholly acceptable, be it murder, rape, theft, and easiest of all Deception. (Gaslighting "we're a religion of peace" while hacking someone's head off) Sorry, they can claim all the nobility they want, but I believe it's Satanic and will require life ending action to quell it's extremism against everyone that does not embrace Islam.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I didnt know that. You think the Palestinians are just ignorant?
Its called free speech, like it or hate it. The KKK and the Aryan nations, Black panthers, have free speech too. Nobody really listens to that shit anyway
spat
.950 JDJ
I think the Palestinians are a very small subset of all antisemitism.
I am sure ignorance factors highly in theirs as well though. How many lies are Palestinian children taught about a jews while they are growing up ? Probably more than even the Nazi's propagated.
Bottom line, nearly everyone with any serious level of antisemitism almost certainly believes a lot of outright fabrications. That pretty much applies to most forms of bigotry TBH.
Unless you think ignorance isn't really the right term to describe believing outright lies. If you think ignorance is just a lack of knowledge, then I could understand that. I include incorrect knowledge as well as a lack in the definition of ignorance.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
absolute nonsense. Thats a cover story for the public . The north Koreans or the Japanese or even the Vietnamese didn't hate us for our freedom, the Mexicans didn't hate us for our freedoms The american Indians didnt hate us for our freedoms the South didnt hate us for our freedoms the muslims didnt hate us for our freedoms
You mean like.....just throwing out an example.....flat earth theory?