Cops Holds Open Carry Activist At Gun Point & Arrest Him For Exercising his Second Amendment Right

Saltwater60 · Wednesday at 8:30 AM

Drinkthekoolaid said:
A wise person once told me, just because you "can" doesn't mean you "should"

But I do appreciate what he was trying to do, if we can't actually exercise our rights, do they really exist in practice???

I can appreciate his end game as well but after what happened he should have picked up his gin and left. He should not have reloaded it standing in front of the cops. Get in the car, leave, then reload the mag. It’s never wise to piss those off that outgun you heavily.

I don’t agree with what the cops did and they violated his rights for sure. I also don’t agree with the courts saying he was arrested so his rights weren’t violated, really many get arrested and released because it turns out they didn’t commit a crime. To me they can’t have it both ways.
As you said just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Good life lesson.

JunkBoxFull · Wednesday at 11:14 AM

Saltwater60 said:
I can appreciate his end game as well but after what happened he should have picked up his gin and left. He should not have reloaded it standing in front of the cops. Get in the car, leave, then reload the mag. It’s never wise to piss those off that outgun you heavily.

I don’t agree with what the cops did and they violated his rights for sure. I also don’t agree with the courts saying he was arrested so his rights weren’t violated, really many get arrested and released because it turns out they didn’t commit a crime. To me they can’t have it both ways.
As you said just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Good life lesson.

AGREE 100% here ^^^^^^

OwnTheRide · Wednesday at 12:56 PM

Saltwater60 said:
I can appreciate his end game as well but after what happened he should have picked up his gin and left. He should not have reloaded it standing in front of the cops. Get in the car, leave, then reload the mag. It’s never wise to piss those off that outgun you heavily.

I don’t agree with what the cops did and they violated his rights for sure. I also don’t agree with the courts saying he was arrested so his rights weren’t violated, really many get arrested and released because it turns out they didn’t commit a crime. To me they can’t have it both ways.
As you said just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Good life lesson.

"A right not exercised is a right lost"

I understand your point that folks that do this kind of thing are putting themselves in harm's way regardless of the fact that they are exercising their Constitutional rights. That said, the fact that these rights were paid for in blood certainly suggests they're worth defending with the same potential cost.

Zerex · Wednesday at 1:49 PM

In 1850 you do what he did........population 23 million

In 1950 you could also, population 150 million
In 1975 likely too...........population 215 million.

With an insane population today of 350 million inc 20 million illegals and 50 million, essentially lawsless BLM, half of whom cannot pass a NICS check, walking about with an AR 15 today will get you dead in most burgs..and that is good.........saves lives.

IT is not 1850 anymore despite sovereigns warped ideas that it is so.

This perp has not done it again.,,,,,,,,,,,probably because he lost his gun rights due to the Jury conviction, of a GROSS MISDEMEANOR in Wa Satate, that has been upheld.

He now lives in Kansas, after his suicide attempt, and costly court proceedings that failed to exonerate him.

He may not be able to pass a NICS yet today.

Go ahead do it in NYS at a mall........you ain't got no rights do it.....prove me wrong.

MothMan · Wednesday at 2:41 PM

Celt · Wednesday at 7:18 PM

After all these years, i just tried out the ignore feature.

Saltwater60 · Wednesday at 8:54 PM

OwnTheRide said:
"A right not exercised is a right lost"

I understand your point that folks that do this kind of thing are putting themselves in harm's way regardless of the fact that they are exercising their Constitutional rights. That said, the fact that these rights were paid for in blood certainly suggests they're worth defending with the same potential cost.

I don’t disagree with you but he went out asking for and looking for trouble. His failure point was doing it on private property. I think if he did this on public property and just left at the first point he would not have been arrested. I see these types of videos regularly where people challenge this stuff. I fully support his right and him doing what he did, but it was stupidest for him to reload his firearm at that point and go back on private property.

repete · 2026-04-16T11:47:50-0400

Zerex said:
In 1850 you do what he did........population 23 million

In 1950 you could also, population 150 million
In 1975 likely too...........population 215 million.

With an insane population today of 350 million inc 20 million illegals and 50 million, essentially lawsless BLM, half of whom cannot pass a NICS check, walking about with an AR 15 today will get you dead in most burgs..and that is good.........saves lives.

IT is not 1850 anymore despite sovereigns warped ideas that it is so.

This perp has not done it again.,,,,,,,,,,,probably because he lost his gun rights due to the Jury conviction, of a GROSS MISDEMEANOR in Wa Satate, that has been upheld.

He now lives in Kansas, after his suicide attempt, and costly court proceedings that failed to exonerate him.

He may not be able to pass a NICS yet today.

Go ahead do it in NYS at a mall........you ain't got no rights do it.....prove me wrong.

Just like a blind squirrel will every once in a while find a nut, you too have every once in a while, had a good point. But that's NOT TODAY! I think I'm done reading your nonsensical posts and have awarded you the IGNORE prize. Thank you for participating.

Zerex · 2026-04-16T11:55:10-0400

I represent reality...............................we can no longer carry an AR in public on city streets today, without predictable LE interactions, and likely arrest........................ and loss of gun rights forever.

1850 is not 2026.........SCOTUS rulings prove it.

Drinkthekoolaid · 2026-04-16T12:45:14-0400

Defilade said:
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Free beer tomorrow guys

Beerman · 2026-04-16T14:47:49-0400

Defilade said:
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That’s great for Virginia, but why isn’t NYS and Hochul in her crosshairs???????

JunkBoxFull · 2026-04-16T16:14:50-0400

Beerman said:
That’s great for Virginia, but why isn’t NYS and Hochul in her crosshairs???????

Because the AR15 is not banned in NYS, Spermburgler outright banned them in Virginia.

GOPerfect · 2026-04-16T16:20:45-0400

My thoughts on this guy, I really don't care. I truly don't.

The coppers were ALL wrong in this case.

There is always a right way and a wrong way to approach this type of situation.

They chose the wrong way.

Happens far too often in these Once United States.

So glad I no longer wear a uniform.

fresch · 2026-04-16T17:43:52-0400

You know when you are talking to a good cop when you ask, so if I need to shoot them what happens? Then they respond with just make sure the are in the door threshold when we get here.
A real question and responce, Texas 1978, and it was a female officer telling me this.

spat · 2026-04-16T22:12:12-0400

Zerex said:
I represent reality...............................we can no longer carry an AR in public on city streets today, without predictable LE interactions, and likely arrest........................ and loss of gun rights forever.

1850 is not 2026.........SCOTUS rulings prove it.

That depends entirely on what city you're talking about.

Zerex · 2026-04-17T11:27:23-0400

Regardless of long gun type, or open carry pistol on your hip, people will notice you "parading" on the street............. and call 911.

911 was not available in 1850.

Your problem is not with the cops, but with your everyday citizens driving by, who throw you under the bus.

Your neighbors, ex wife, girlfriend, etc.......... ARE YOUR PROBLEM.

Clarence Thomas just gave a lecture on the Dec Ind...............noted it was not law, and that Gov't does have the right to arrest and imprison you for crimes.......

spat · 2026-04-17T14:57:58-0400

Zerex said:
Regardless of long gun type, or open carry pistol on your hip, people will notice you "parading" on the street............. and call 911.

911 was not available in 1850.

Your problem is not with the cops, but with your everyday citizens driving by, who throw you under the bus.

Your neighbors, ex wife, girlfriend, etc.......... ARE YOUR PROBLEM.

Clarence Thomas just gave a lecture on the Dec Ind...............noted it was not law, and that Gov't does have the right to arrest and imprison you for crimes.......

If Sally soccer mom calls 911 because someone's red hat offends her, she's a douche.

But if some cops get that call and think that means they need to *do* something about the hat, they're a problem.

Sally should be educated, but those cops should be fired. Her ignorance is her problem, but their ignorance is a public danger.

It's the same thing for open carry.

pshift · 2026-04-17T15:49:51-0400

We are all fans of the 2nd Amendment but remember that "He who plays stupid games, gets stupid prizes."

GOPerfect · 2026-04-17T16:23:21-0400

As for these types of calls/incidents....

If available, when a call comes in... "Man with a gun in the parking lot", the Police have to respond. In today's climate, I have no issue with the Police arriving with the idea bad stuff may be happening. Nature of the beast in the world that we find ourselves in.

I will never blame the Police for arriving on scene with their guard up, high.

I do take issue with how many of them respond in these situations.

spat · 2026-04-17T22:20:35-0400

GOPerfect said:
As for these types of calls/incidents....

If available, when a call comes in... "Man with a gun in the parking lot", the Police have to respond. In today's climate, I have no issue with the Police arriving with the idea bad stuff may be happening. Nature of the beast in the world that we find ourselves in.

I will never blame the Police for arriving on scene with their guard up, high.

I do take issue with how many of them respond in these situations.

Yes, they need to *investigate*. But as soon as the investigation fails to produce any evidence of an actual crime, they need to apologize for wasting the citizen's time and leave.

Maybe contact the caller to educate them if that's an option.

OfC, if the original call doesn't even allege an actual crime, maybe you don't waste anyone's time. 911 dispatchers should be trained to filter out Karen calls.

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