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  1. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Most of the positions you accused me of taking in that post I have never come close to. Thus, the straw man. Even this post you can't help but drag out another straw man. Pro Zionist doesn't have anything to do with "placing Isreal above the US". It's like you have invented an entire...
  2. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The other side of that lesson is "if you don't already have nuclear weapons, don't try to get them or we'll kill you". Too bad we couldn't have implemented that in 1945.
  3. spat

    The Adventures of NYC mayor Zohran Mamdani

    What percentage of NYC denizens pay net taxes ? The startling thing about 48% is that even some of the people who *don't* pay taxes don't like him.
  4. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Their big mistake was not having the ability and making the threat anyway to someone who *does* have the ability. The Ayatolla won't make that one again.
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    Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - The gift that keeps on giving

    That look in her eyes says: "The lights are on, but nobody's home".
  6. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Can anyone pretend that Hezbollah isn't just a wing of the Iranian military now, when Iran openly calls a strike on them a violation of the ceasefire LOL.
  7. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Watch the goalposts move in real-time now, from it doesn't happen to "well those were justified because America bad"
  8. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Some kid threatens day in and day out to murder you ? Yea, you make him unable to eat solid food. Because there are no teachers, cops, or any other authority to call. You keep acting like this is some dispute between neighbors in a modern suburb. It's not. This is that same dispute, but in...
  9. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Of all the places we waste money, this one concerns me the least. I can actually see a positive benefit from this one at least. We may or may not be getting our money's worth, but at least we're getting *something*.
  10. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    I'd worry more about Somalians. The Iranians who I've met who escaped seem like decent people. Iraqis too.
  11. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    I'm not going to clutch my pearls because a guy who says "Death to America" finds out what species his 72 virgins are. IDGAF where he lives. But, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for your virtue because you're "better than that". I'm not interested in being better than anyone. I just...
  12. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    China wasn't a problem until Nixon started getting friendly with them. Before that they were just another shithole starving their own citizens. But, you're not wrong about WWII. We should have backed the nationalists better. Imagine if the whole mainland was like Taiwain. Taiwain is the...
  13. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    So we should just ignore regimes that chant "Death to America" and let them fester until they *can* do something about it ? They're behind most of the terrorism in the whole world. We're better off with them gone. That's enough.
  14. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Does that mean that Iran *doesn't* want to kill all of us ? They might not be the biggest threat, but they certainly are a threat. And they're a lot easier to eliminate than the debt. I think the biggest threat is actually the domestic terrorists that call themselves the left, the debt is...
  15. spat

    Europe in Chaos

    People need to realize, you don't need to fight the tanks. You just need to eliminate the shitweasels and the people who support them. Don't be where there are tanks.
  16. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    He didn't say he was going to kill the people. He said the culture. The current islamofascist culture in Iran needs to die. Every bit as much as the Nazi culture in Germany needed to die before the German people could be free. The problem is bigger than just the regime in charge. If you...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The people who's motto is "death to America" ? Yea, can't imagine why he'd harbor any dislike for them.
  18. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    I think whatever left of the Iranian leadership would say he's dead serious.
  19. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    It was. But why would you sell uncle sam a $10 solution when they are buying $1M interceptors from you ? It's the exact same reason Kodak was left behind in the digital photography world, despite having invented the digital camera. They didn't want to give up film sales, so they tried to...
  20. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Without boots on the ground it's not clear when the clock even started. If we have no aircraft in Iranian airspace, does that count as "withdrawing" ? We bombed them last summer, when did that clock reset ?
  21. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The real question is "who *is* in charge of Iran now". Before you can get an agreement for anything you need to know you're talking to someone who can actually implement their half of the agreement. It's quite possible that we have *already* affected a regime change, and the new regime is even...
  22. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Lebanon and Hezzbollah were never part of the cease fire anyway. The ceasefire was about Iran
  23. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    So, basically business as usual in the middle east ? How much of the last 10 years has there been a time where some Iranian proxy *wasn't* conducting small attacks and threatening shipping ?
  24. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Easy, you DGAF. Russia wants them to have nukes, we don't. Sucks for Russia.
  25. spat

    All things NY fraud.

    They have made that illegal where they couldn't kill the extended family enough to prevent it.
  26. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If you refuse entry to the inspectors, you have until the bombers that just left Montana get here to change your mind. After that, the inspectors will be able to just mark "nothing here" on their forms and move on.
  27. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    More likely it's the complete breakdown of command and control inside Iran. Some guys literally didn't get the memo.
  28. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Almost like we need to fix the root of the problem once and for all and not let it keep festering for another 50 years.
  29. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Well, in this case *everyone*, including the Iranians said they were developing the bomb. Midnight hammer bought us some time, but it could never be permanent. nobody claimed it was.
  30. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If they won't allow us to use their airspace, are they really allies ? Seems we have more allies in the middle east than we do Europe these days. Also, isn't "mass genocide" kinda redundant ? What other kind of genocide is there ? It worked pretty well when we ended the Japanese and German...
  31. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    They're still launching rockets and drones, so we haven't killed enough yet. You keep firing until the threat is gone, that's the mistake previous administrations have always done that turned these adventures into disasters. They want to "coax them back to the negotiating table". We need to...
  32. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Eventually we'll blow enough stuff up that they look like Afghanistan. You know what Afghanistan doesn't have ? A nuclear program or or ICBMs.
  33. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Their main advantage is that they're not as permanent as high explosives. You only use these when you want to turn the power back on after a week or two. If you want it to stay off, you just blow things up.
  34. spat

    What if Supreme Court overturns AW & big magazine ban?

    You do understand that NYS are not the "good guys" here, right ? They swapped their red coats for purple ties, but it's the same thing.
  35. spat

    Man pulls a gun inside NYS bar over a tip dispute, charged with having a gun in a sensitive location

    Those people should be locked up. Because telling them "no guns for you" is useless.
  36. spat

    Charlie Kirk shot (merged threads)

    So, why do you think "does not match" means something different for bullets than it does for knives ?
  37. spat

    Charlie Kirk shot (merged threads)

    "The knife we found in the defendants car doesn't match the wound on the victim" absolutely implies that it is not the murder weapon. I honestly never considered that some people wouldn't realize that. How would you feel if a doctor told you your new grandson's paternity test doesn't match...
  38. spat

    Idaho AG Defends 2nd Amendment Against New York Lawsuits

    Some free state AGs should start suing NY municipalities for creating a public nuisance using the same legal rationale NY uses to sue makers of NY unfriendly accessories. NY municipalities create a public nuisance when they undercharge or early release known dangerous criminals who then travel...
  39. spat

    Charlie Kirk shot (merged threads)

    Because it is absolutely *not* the same thing said differently. Doesn't match implies that it is proof that it was fired from a different gun. Can't be matched does not. 2 different phrases with 2 *different* meanings.
  40. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Probably because we had 3 more C130s and a metric shitload of close air support on standby this time. Kinda wonder if the Iranians mined the runway or something. I saw somewhere they were using some semi abandoned existing airstrip. Could have done something that damaged the gear on landing...
  41. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    They had multiple A10s dedicated for CAS for this mission. They also described a "heavy firefight". I'm not sure a firefight involving A10s could be anything else. Would be really interested in knowing what the other sides casualties looked like. They also had multiple C130s, but not sure if...
  42. spat

    Inexpensive way to see down range - Advice sought

    The cool trick with the camera is you don't *have* to mark the holes. Take a screen shot. Take the real shot, second screen shot and then flip quickly between the 2 pictures. The new hole will "blink".
  43. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Maybe not India. But the European countries that are telling us we can't fly planes over their territory, sure, why shouldn't we tell them "OK then, if we can't fly planes over Spain, then you can't sail ships through our straight".
  44. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    So, you're saying we should just announce that "if not everyone can pass, then no one can" and then we will be in control of the straight ? That sounds like a really cheap and easy solution then.
  45. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Trump has been trying to get Europe to pull their share of the load for almost a decade now. In his first term he warned them about being prepared to oppose Russia, and that relying on Russia for energy was a mistake. They literally laughed at him. And in this case, the straight being closed...
  46. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    But you are suggesting that Iran has more control over the straight the we do. And I'm pointing out that there is no metric for "control" you can choose where that's true. Just because they are choosing to exercise their control in ways we aren't doesn't mean they're any more "in control"...
  47. spat

    Inexpensive way to see down range - Advice sought

    Cheap Wifi camera in a box with a USB battery bank and some AR500 on the uprange side. $100 all in and you can see a clear as day on your phone. Even cheaper if you have a spare phone to use.
  48. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    What makes Iran's say more final than ours ? If we decide not to allow any ships through that negotiate passage with Iran, then none get through. Are you seriously suggesting that we're just too nice to actually be in control ?
  49. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Just because we give everyone but Iran permission doesn't mean they don't need permission. We could obviously stop any ship we wanted to. The fact that we choose not to doesn't change that
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