12ga slug reload advice?

Acer-m14 · Sep 2, 2023

i haven't done it yet but have looked into it

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Acer-m14 · Sep 8, 2023

just found these at the local gun store here on a rack of misc reloading stuff ..

12Ga Vitts Boos slugs .. close to a breneke slug

Vantrepes · Sep 9, 2023

Reloading for shotgun is a whole different ball of wax than metallic cartridges. There's no real wiggle room, like there is with rifle and pistol cases.
I'd suggest you get this before anything else: Slug Loading Manual, 9th edition
You will need to pick a recipe and follow it to the "T". There are lots of combinations that use the same slug, primer, and powder, but the charge needed for one type of shell vr the charge needed for a different shell can be startling.

Acer-m14 · Sep 9, 2023

Vantrepes said:
Reloading for shotgun is a whole different ball of wax than metallic cartridges. There's no real wiggle room, like there is with rifle and pistol cases.
I'd suggest you get this before anything else: Slug Loading Manual, 9th edition
You will need to pick a recipe and follow it to the "T". There are lots of combinations that use the same slug, primer, and powder, but the charge needed for one type of shell vr the charge needed for a different shell can be startling.

already reload for shotgun ... even made some black powder shotgun loads ..

Acer-m14 · Sep 10, 2023

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Vantrepes · Sep 10, 2023

Acer-m14 said:
already reload for shotgun ... even made some black powder shotgun loads ..

My post was more directed at Rooftop, since he seemed to be new to it completely.

Acer-m14 · Sep 10, 2023

straight hulls .. tapered hulls ..

paper at the base of the hull around the primer .. vs all plastic ..

usa hull vs EU halls

AA, Gun Club , STS ..

ohh it gets fun ..

i have a shit ton of RIO hulls i load in

and Fiocchi hulls ..

i like the clear hull

Acer-m14 · Sep 10, 2023

this is basically what i got .. just in better condition .. the screws on my Vitts boos are not rusted like in this video

and the cup is not brittle ..

on the top of the box it does say Vitt aerodynamics slug

i think Rex Loaded them hot ... LOL ..

Acer-m14 · Sep 11, 2023

the Vitts Boos slugs i got ..

yep i can use green dot under them ..

other powders would be better .. but it is what it is ..

i think the ark port FFL had longshot on the powder board so will go back and check ..

may cost me 80 bucks for a pound lol

22-24 grs of Green Dot. Just was looking at the original paperwork that accompanied these slugs. The fastest powder used was 22 of Red Dot. If you Herco, Blue Dot, or Unique, that would be better.

that was for the slugs i got .. there almost a 1.5 oz ..

575 grains they weigh in at .

Acer-m14 · Sep 11, 2023

RooftopKorean said:
I plan on roll crimping.

i was just on amazon looking for a crimper .. a month wait for a 19 dollar one ..

Xae289 · Sep 13, 2023

Vantrepes said:
Reloading for shotgun is a whole different ball of wax than metallic cartridges. There's no real wiggle room, like there is with rifle and pistol cases.
I'd suggest you get this before anything else: Slug Loading Manual, 9th edition
You will need to pick a recipe and follow it to the "T". There are lots of combinations that use the same slug, primer, and powder, but the charge needed for one type of shell vr the charge needed for a different shell can be startling.

That's what has really turned me off from reloading shotgun shells. How tough is it to get the exact components you need or find a recipe for what you may have on hand? I look at Hodgdon for shotgun reloading data and only find shot data, but a ton of different loads based on different wads and whatnot.

Vantrepes · Sep 13, 2023

I was given a press, and a bunch of skeet components, so I had an easy start

It got less easy when I decided to reload buckshot and slugs

Acer-m14 · Sep 14, 2023

Xae289 said:
That's what has really turned me off from reloading shotgun shells. How tough is it to get the exact components you need or find a recipe for what you may have on hand? I look at Hodgdon for shotgun reloading data and only find shot data, but a ton of different loads based on different wads and whatnot.

RooftopKorean said:
Yeah, I noticed the same thing.

slugs can be compared to a birdshot load .. its the weight ..

1oz slug is the same as 1oz of birdshot ..

then you just need to work out the wad column height

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or have to find old reloading books.. like lymans vol2 and 3 i have seen mentioned ..

or join up here ..

Vitts Boos slugs

Anyone here have any experience with them? Ive been sitting on a couple hundred I bought from an old timer a while back. Loaded up a couple with 4756. Also loaded some 20 ga Brennekes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230808/370fba66b8b4dc7f756b1f57a32ae2f5.jpg...

castboolits.gunloads.com

page 28 ...

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G1263.pdf

Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

for slugs go with straight hull shells ..

its a bit long explains the different shot gun hulls ..

Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

RooftopKorean said:
I was watching this recipe/testing I found on YT.

From my reading and understanding, Red Dot is for shot loads but this guy seemed to make it work for slugs. He also tested out various different wads.

I picked up some stuff from @Thomas today, Red Dot and CB1118-12 wads that are for 1 1/8 oz loads. I was thinking about loading the same amount of Red Dot the guy is using in the video but with these wads and Cheddite 209 primers.

I'll definitely need to use either cork or thicker nitro board to raise the height of the slug since this wad accomodates 1 1/8 oz loads.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

yes .. like i said before .. lead is lead .. powder load for the weight load

different wads to work out the wad column height ... and that is also in the weight of your pay load

them slugs i got .. lead and parts and the screw weigh in at 1.315 oz ...

you can even use longshot .. just have to figure out the powder load ..

Rex was a little hot in that vid .. but the gun didn't blow up ..

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Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

if my powder load is low and i drop in my slug and wad and its only 2 inches tall .. im not getting a 2 3/4 shell ..

back to the drawing board or you can make a 2 1/2 size shell ..

Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

the issue i see you and I may run into ..

is finding a good roll crimper ..

20 bucks on amazon .. 30 day delivery .

Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

all i have is Green-dot .. so my 24 gr load on the slug will give me trap load FPS .. say 1200 fps .. and a safe chamber pressure ..

now switching to a different powder .. you can get 1600 FPS and still have the safe chamber pressure ..

Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

primers ..

Looking for a Primer substitution chart

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Acer-m14 · Sep 15, 2023

PS ..

i have a shit ton of fired birdshot RIO and some Fiocchi clear straight hulls .. the crimp will need to be trimmed off from what i'm learning too ..

so it will be a 2 1/2 inch slug if i go that way ..

i'll have to see how tall my green dot powder is and go from there

if you can find some 3 inch fired birdshot hulls then the trim of the crimp will put them at 2 3/4

Acer-m14 · Sep 25, 2023

i may be going Stinky .. Black powder Slug loads or BP Substitute

i got a can of Goex FFg and 2 lbs of pyrodex RS

been down this rabbit hole before ..

a Dram is a Dram .. 27.5 on the BP Brass Powder measure

27.5 x 3.75 .. 103.125 .. pretty close to what i load my 50cal musket to with a

350gr slug and its a lot tighter fit

ever see 3 Drams on the shot shell hull .. that is the BP load ..

just need to figure out how much drams of powder will fit into the hull of a shotgun hull

for a 1.315oz payload .. LOL

i may need 3 in mag hulls for this stink fest

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