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[Mike1Juliet]

So I went to a few LGS's today and basically pitched this exact idea with all the bells and whistles associated with making this right. Many of these LGS won't risk the trouble from what I understand, they're too caught up in the ridiculous gray areas of what is does "detachable magazine" mean or what is a pistol grip? One guy suggested I ought to just contact the ATF field office about it and see what they think since they work very closely with the state police regarding firearm matters.

Has anyone actually tried something like this? I know these are popular in Connecticut and elsewhere with Assault Weapons Bans but anyone in NY tried it? Unlike the ambiguity in pistol grips and detachable magazines this seems pretty cut and dry.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

So I went to a few LGS's today and basically pitched this exact idea with all the bells and whistles associated with making this right. Many of these LGS won't risk the trouble from what I understand, they're too caught up in the ridiculous gray areas of what is does "detachable magazine" mean or what is a pistol grip? One guy suggested I ought to just contact the ATF field office about it and see what they think since they work very closely with the state police regarding firearm matters.

Has anyone actually tried something like this? I know these are popular in Connecticut and elsewhere with Assault Weapons Bans but anyone in NY tried it? Unlike the ambiguity in pistol grips and detachable magazines this seems pretty cut and dry.

You dont need an ffl. Buy a lower. Build it yourself.

No ffl needed.

 

[Mike1Juliet]

I'm sorry for bumping this thread again but I've decided that I'm not going to try this "other" type firearm thing as it appears to be way too much trouble to risk felonies and shit. I'm just going to build a fixed-mag build using a maglock to get all my evil features coupled with that ma-15 mag-loader thing and shit and just suck it up. I went to a gunshow today and many of the FFL's there agree that its totally actually really legal but none would ever try building or selling a type of rifle themselves. They only sell the mossberg shockwave purely and only because it has a police letter behind it and a big company like mossberg actually made one.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

11.5 with a carbine buffer tube. Shorter if you ran a rifle buffer tube

I know this is old but 10.5 won’t work?

 

[Marine Cpl]

I know this is old but 10.5 won’t work?

Too short unless you permanently attach a muzzle device.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Too short unless you permanently attach a muzzle device.

I was told “You can get any length barrel you want as long as overall length exceeds 26”. It just takes some specialized parts and modifications to get to 26” with a barrel shorter than 12.5”. Primarily a pinned & welded muzzle device and A5 buffer tube.”

 

[Marine Cpl]

I was told “You can get any length barrel you want as long as overall length exceeds 26”. It just takes some specialized parts and modifications to get to 26” with a barrel shorter than 12.5”. Primarily a pinned & welded muzzle device and A5 buffer tube.”

That’s correct. Whatever way you get there, it has to be over 26. A 10.5 with a carbine gas system is a hair short.

Most just build with an 11.5 because you get more benefit from it rather than gaining an inch from the buffer tube for example and going with a 10.5. With an 11.5, you get an extra 150 or so FPS of velocity.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

That’s correct. Whatever way you get there, it has to be over 26. A 10.5 with a carbine gas system is a hair short.

Most just build with an 11.5 because you get more benefit from it rather than gaining an inch from the buffer tube for example and going with a 10.5. With an 11.5, you get an extra 150 or so FPS of velocity.

Sounds good to me, appreciate it.