20 rounds every 120 days

[Airborneguy]

Group 3:

After all these years of trying, it’s obvious that most people hate me so fuck em’. I’m going to do as little as possible and only what’s best for me and mine until my pension is fat enough that I can enjoy an easy retirement of hunting, traveling and relaxing while everyone who hated me works till they die.

 

[spat]

Group 3:

After all these years of trying, it’s obvious that most people hate me so fuck em’. I’m going to do as little as possible and only what’s best for me and mine until my pension is fat enough that I can enjoy an easy retirement of hunting, traveling and relaxing while everyone who hated me works till they die.

That would be the jaded faction of group 1.

 

[Airborneguy]

I disagree only because, especially nowadays when being a cop pays very well, there are lots of cops who start out that way from Day 1.

It takes years of experience and realization to become the IDGAF guy. The guy with enough smarts to do nothing in a situation but in a way that bosses and civilians alike can’t fault their actions. It’s an art.

You have to start out really caring to build that experience. Really chasing perps, fighting with them, bleeding with them and your brothers and sisters on the street.

 

[spat]

I disagree only because, especially nowadays when being a cop pays very well, there are lots of cops who start out that way from Day 1.

It takes years of experience and realization to become the IDGAF guy. The guy with enough smarts to do nothing in a situation but in a way that bosses and civilians alike can’t fault their actions. It’s an art.

You have to start out really caring to build that experience. Really chasing perps, fighting with them, bleeding with them and your brothers and sisters on the street.

There is mobility between the groups. You yourself sound like one of the ones who started in group 2 to make the world a better place, and eventually migrated into group 1 to collect a paycheck then a pension.

 

[Airborneguy]

I don’t deny my current motives, but it’s a distinct “group”. You’d have to understand and witness policing from the inside. Group 1 can never do what I do.

They’re the complainers at this stage of their career. We call them hairbags. Bosses hate them and treat them appropriately.

Group 3 never complains.

Bosses rave about me. I get the highest rating on all of my evaluations. I’ve been put in for nearly impossible to get discretionary promotions and receive calls at least once a month asking me if I want to apply for special details. I’m routinely offered overtime even though I turn down most of it. Cops and bosses alike come to me for advice on my specialty and routine police work. My captain, who has more time on the job and way more experience than me calls me regularly for advice and suggestions when he wants a second opinion.

Yet I barely do a thing when I’m on the street (which is very often, I have patrol tomorrow). I haven’t put my hands on even a handful of people in about 4-5 years. Don’t pull anyone over, never miss a meal, rarely get wet or cold and almost always get my days off. These are attributes only a former real cop can attain.

This is why Group 3 is distinct, and the best group to be in. It’s a badge of honor.

Point is, you can’t regress to Group 1. Group 1 is born and bred. Group 3 is earned.

 

[Bigfoot]

Except for the one time. ( I do not know what his problem was, holy cow, woo wee)
I have not had any bad experiences with LE
Actually I have been cut some slack more times than not... (Traffic Violations)

On 2 different occasions I was approached by LE on the private land where I do most of my shooting.
Both times they were professional, they said that my backstop is good. And that I am breaking no laws.
Both times they went back to the complainant and told them as such.

But I have always been polite, but not a push over.
I make it a point to make the encounter low key on my part.
Have all of my documents in order.
And not be a dirtball in general.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Marine Cpl]

There is a 4th group. The individual cops in this group initially thought that what they were doing was right when they got hired in their 20’s but now as they matured to their late 30’s, 40’s, and even 50’s, they now realize that what they have been doing all along was enforcing unconstitutional laws and harassing the citizenry for revenue.

It’s too late for them to quit now and lose everything so they try to do as little as possible or continue to do what they do for a little while longer until they can retire.

 

[Airborneguy]

Uh, nope.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Umm Yeah. Many cops fall into this group.

 

[Airborneguy]

Oh wait, I thought you meant this group as in the forum. Because I definitely don’t fall into this #4.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Oh wait, I thought you meant this group as in the forum. Because I definitely don’t fall into this #4.

Never said you fall into 4.

 

[E the massive]

Holy fuck, call Dr. Phil already.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

It all comes down to enforcement. It's not optional to comply if someone is willing to enforce a policy against you.

It's up to those who enforce to say that things have gone to far, and set the example.

I think it's a multi part problem.

Enough reasonable citizens have to say "F it" and just ignore an unjust rule.

Enough police have to decide to not enforce an unjust rule

And more importantly

Enough citizen jurors have to side with the charged citizens against aggressive DAs for when cases do get to trial and aquit or nullify cases...

The laws on the books now are never ever going away under our current system. I think there is a 0.0001% chance in our current system that our politicians are going to spend their time trying to figure out how to give us more rights and take away their own power. It's not happening.

Politicians spend their time trying to come up with more bullshit laws not eliminating them.

As a society, police, citizens, jurors we have to basically tell the politicians and DAs they've gone too far. Sadly this probably wont happen either. Here's why. We're not made of money and we don't have an ACLU, SPLC or anything like that advocating for us. We are just regular people and we don't have the financial resources to risk ours and our families livlihood to continue fighting cases to ever higher courts. If one of us is charged with a gun crime 99% chance we plea bargain down to a lesser charge to spare our families the economic hardship of fighting and possibly losing and then spending time in prison.

If we ever do get to trial were fearful were going to have a jury full of indoctrinated paste eaters who have been told guns are bad and why do you need an assault rifle their whole lives, so yes I would be fearful of my future being in their hands.

And the problem with police not charging people with crimes is that we don't know. I would be relatively sure THERE ARE people getting caught with things they shouldn't have under current law. However, the cop who looked the other way isn't going to say anything, and the person who was given a pass if they are smart they aren't going to say anything either because that would be admitting to a crime. So it's just a silent wink and nod and that's the end of it. No one else knows it occurred. I'm sure those involved bare very thankful and appreciated the officers discretion but that probably where it ends in that single scenario. The officers probably have to make instant judgement calls to whether the feel the person is a threat, dangerous, deserving of being charged etc. Then they probably consider how likely is this person to blow me in if I let them go, will this person say something stupid that turns around and ruins my career and financially harms my family


There is so much to consider. I don't know where to go from here to fix the system. I think it's too far broken at this point.


Just my .02 cents

 

[Tisto]

Oh, shit ! I went through an entire year's worth of ammo inside just a few hours today, and I wasn't even trying !

 

[Bigfoot]

20 rounds every 120 days... ROTFLMAO



What's next? ... NYC politicians telling farmers how to best care for their herd?

Bunch of self entitled, self important, know it all, city fucking fucks...

20 rounds every 120 days... Yeah right... LMAO

Fucking NYC Retards...



Do they even realize how stupid that sounds?

 

[96coal449]

Oh, shit ! I went through an entire year's worth of ammo inside just a few hours today, and I wasn't even trying !

I forgot what this thread was about during the last 2 pages of reading .....until this post.

 

[GOPerfect]

As for what group do coppers fall in....

I have no idea what group I would fall into.

I love what I do. Really.

I LOVE, I mean I LOVE my paychecks.

I love the benefits that I have.

My pension will be fat; nearly everything I do today is for my retirement tomorrow. I am hoping to be quite loaded when I retire,

I worked today, I had fun. Made some good money, made a few people laugh, made a few people mad. Don't care either way, I got paid.

 

[96coal449]

20 rounds every 120 days... ROTFLMAO

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What's next? ... NYC politicians telling farmers how to best care for their herd?

Bunch of self entitled, self important, know it all, city fucking fucks...

20 rounds every 120 days... Yeah right... LMAO

Fucking NYC Retards...



Do they even realize how stupid that sounds?

I don't think stupidity has anything to do with it.
Unless of course you're referring to the intelligence level within the flock. Individual, or as a whole.