nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Guess you also believe white people today are to blame for slavery too!
2A Lawsuits and their progress we have here in NY
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Guess you also believe white people today are to blame for slavery too!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
looks at the makeup of our Govt .. yep .. most are white and still making us slaves ..
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
The SCOTUS basically "bitch slapped" the lower courts into the reality of how to interpret the Constitution and gun cases in particular. Now we must wait to see if they will follow the rule of law or continue to "go Rouge" and continue to follow their liberal masters.
We now have Congress people calling for the outright ban of the SCOTUS rulings because their Marxist agenda has been crushed.
We have state legislatures saying FU to the SCOUTS and passing every wild hair up-the-ass law ever dreamed of and a Governor signing them as fast as she can.
If the lower courts continue to uphold unconstitutional laws of infringement and we have elected officials outright defying the constitution and these lawsuits are denied by the lower courts, what are we going to do about it?
We will pull a box of cheerios out of the cupboard and say Nuttin Honey.
We won't call for harassing legislators and judges at restaurants or demonstrating outside of their homes. We won't put on vagina hats and protest without butt cheeks hanging out. We won't scream while shaking uncontrollably about the injustice of a corrupt system. We will file more lawsuits.
In the end, the lawyers will purchase a new Audi and we will comply with whatever bullshit they dream up in Albany. hen we will be staying home on election day because the democrat liberals have instructed the media to gaslight us into believing our votes don't matter, and "we" are so phucking smart we let them do it.
Why are licensed pistol permit holders the only law-abiding group left in New York? Why do they wear molon labe tee shirts?
Democrats are on the verge of a historic record-breaking loss of seats in the November election.
Everywhere except here in NY, because our vote against them doesn't matter. Right? Keep telling yourself that as you stand under the gas light.
We now have Congress people calling for the outright ban of the SCOTUS rulings because their Marxist agenda has been crushed.
We have state legislatures saying FU to the SCOUTS and passing every wild hair up-the-ass law ever dreamed of and a Governor signing them as fast as she can.
If the lower courts continue to uphold unconstitutional laws of infringement and we have elected officials outright defying the constitution and these lawsuits are denied by the lower courts, what are we going to do about it?
We will pull a box of cheerios out of the cupboard and say Nuttin Honey.
We won't call for harassing legislators and judges at restaurants or demonstrating outside of their homes. We won't put on vagina hats and protest without butt cheeks hanging out. We won't scream while shaking uncontrollably about the injustice of a corrupt system. We will file more lawsuits.
In the end, the lawyers will purchase a new Audi and we will comply with whatever bullshit they dream up in Albany. hen we will be staying home on election day because the democrat liberals have instructed the media to gaslight us into believing our votes don't matter, and "we" are so phucking smart we let them do it.
Why are licensed pistol permit holders the only law-abiding group left in New York? Why do they wear molon labe tee shirts?
Democrats are on the verge of a historic record-breaking loss of seats in the November election.
Everywhere except here in NY, because our vote against them doesn't matter. Right? Keep telling yourself that as you stand under the gas light.
Lmfao.. fuck the NRA.. I cannot wait until they are finally dissolved 100% and are nothing more than a shit stain of a memory
But you can get a Sticker for the back of your truck!
And a made in China pocket knife and key chain
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Or just picking up the 2 million dollar tab for Bruen, but some just need a dog to kick! Carry on....
Oh wow 2mil... so $1.7 mil more than what WLP spent on suits in one year...
They did one thing wow let's forget that literally all the shit we are fighting to get back are what the NRA gave up in "compromises" .
Fuck the NRA.. cool bruen was in our favore. It wasn't the only case making its way up. It just happened to get there just before the others and what the court decided to hear.. if it wasn't bruen it would have been another case with the same outcome..
Fuck the NRA, and I cannot wait until they are nothing more than garbage history
But I guess the love for the nra is similar to how domestic violence victims will make excuses for their abusers .... got to clutch to something I guess
nonconformist
22lr
Did I read that right? I post agreement with a well-informed, well-respected member and I get dressed down? Did that just happen? I guess maybe I’m the low hanging fruit.So be it...here goes.
Not sure but it sounds like you're defending the NRA - the same organization that was modeled after the British National Rifle Association – I mean, you can read the tea leaves. It’s only a matter of time before our LEOs have rape whistles and billy clubs to control the street thugs. Today’s NRA is a shadow of its former self and not what our fathers or grand-fathers grew up supporting.
The same group that whiffed at the ’68 GCA, Brady Act, ’94 AWB, State-level AWB after sunset, unSafe Act (what else am I missing? Ghost guns? What else?) and currently appear to be Not Really Active? The only docket I see them on is as the Respondent.
The same group that gave FUKH an “A” rating? And an endorsement?
Don’t misread me, I’m not giving King overdue credit (or any at all), but in light of Bruen I felt it only right to include NYSRPA in my comment to edwardteach. Who knows, every once in a while the inmates run the asylum, doesn't matter, we won - this battle. We all know NYSRPA has struck out before, but this time they hit it and I’m not looking a gift horse in the mouth, nor am I paying the NRA credit. The credit really belongs to Clement, Murphy and SCOTUS – I suppose also to Underwood for sucking as bad as she did.
Frankly, their affiliation is akin something like the American Cancer Society to the United Way, in which the UW is the fund-raising hub that tosses pennies to charities it’s affiliated with. NYSRPA is no more the NRA than the ACS is the United Way. They have working relationships together because they are bound by common causes. At the end of the day they are still independent organizations. From the NRA website:
“State Associations are independent organizations affiliated with and recognized by the NRA. Your NRA membership does not include membership in your State Association.”
As far as I can see the NRA’s legal involvement was nil and I have found nothing about financing, they were mentioned only twice in the syllabus - once in Breyer’s dissenting opinion and once in a footnote and not at all in the filings. I’m no lawyer, but I would imagine if there was an undue amount of legal or financial support directly from another agency or organization it would need to be disclosed. I would expect them to be mentioned a bit more in the filing and the judgment.
I'm not sure what the point was about state affiliates anyway, 2A rights are supposed to cross state borders, right?
If I misread you, I sincerely apologize, but I stated the reason for my opinion.
Considering that Governor Hochul previously held pro-2A views when she was Erie County clerk and then as House Rep, I mean, it's rather unfair to ding the NRA for not being soothsayers and predict her about face.
Agree 100%. We have two examples from NYS of pro-gun legislators when they were local nobodies. But as soon as they become statewide or get national recognition they quickly change their position. Typical lying politicians. Tar and feathers are appropriate in my opinion.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You have, and Ive been guilty of feeling hopeless at times, but not perpetually hopeless. I am more often optimistic than pessimistic, and with the Bruen decision I am even more optimistic.
My hope is that the key lawsuits will be successful (aw bans, mag restrictions, and new permitting laws to all be struck down), and that the left will push too hard in response and lose their grip on the state, and its people.
Hopeful yes but be realistic. Look at the growing population of this state. City rats that only vote to get more free shit. The left will control this state for a long time.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I consider myself a realist, leaning to the optimistic side of things (mostof the time). Youre right, but being hopeful with our 2a rights is something I think we can all be hopeful about. I believe the left is going to resist hard against court rulings and that will force more people to choose a side. If we get court rulings that deem aw bans, mag capacity bans, etc as unconstitutional then it will close many doors on the leftist agenda of disarming us. The more court rulings in our favor the more desperate and aggressive/careless the left will get.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
If they get an injunction, the district court judge can block all of it and make the guidelines NYS had to follow . The 2nd circuit will rule on that judge’s ruling later.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
The semi auto rifle license probably will be upheld.
Most of new handgun laws won’t . The body armor law won’t survive the court challenge either.
You think the body armor challange will fail Bruen but the semi auto rifle license won't hahahahhahahhahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaahhahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Based on the concurrent opinion of Bruen, yes, it will survive if it’s at a shall issue standard.
The body armor challenge is less of a Bruen case but more of a case of Caetano v. Massachusetts.
Lmfao tell me you don't know what bruen says without telling me you don't know what bruen says
Hahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahaa
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Go read the concurrent opinions. Ha, ha, ha( not really funny at all) . It will have the same weight if not more in what the lower courts are going to do. The shall issue system will survive any court challenge as a result.
Yea go read all the opinion, not just cherry pick small parts hear and there. Otherwise stfu
Hahahhahahahahhahaa sHalL issue SyStEm WiLl sUrViVe AnY cOuRt
Again tell me you don't know fucking shit about the bruen decision without saying you don't know fucking shit about the bruen decision
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Edward, I do know what I am talking about. I wish I was wrong. A real “ shall issue “ system will survive
i KnOw wHaT iM tAlKiNg aBoUt..... hahagahhahahahahhahhaha
Again read the fucking court opinion, (may i also suggest a little read called Heller V DC) and not just cherry pick tid bits and one liners just to push your stupid beliefs on how it was ruled .
Otherwise stfu
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Speculation aside, is there any info about law suits against this crap that anyone has seen? I know what I believe SHOULD happen but so far that is not happening. This state does not seem to care about the SC, law, even the state constitution. Meanwhile time is ticking along to 9/6.
Ummm this post is literally titled 5 Lawsuits against NY ..........?????
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Sorry, wrong thread, bouncing around. My last statement fits this thread well, though.
No worries.. but to answer your question, head to the first post of this thread, there are 5 lawsuits
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
There is also no word from the 2nd Circuit Court vie the Federal District Court, sense NY has shown it's hand the Court *MAY* look at that also.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I am very curious, supposedly the bills passed 7/2 are against the state constitution as they went thru in 24 hours rather than the minimum 72 hours. If those could be taken off the table it would relieve some of my stress level. I heard tell courts were on vacation.
They used the vaunted "Message of Necessity". The NYS Legislature equivalent of "Go directly to 'GO', collect $200, and instantly own Boardwalk and Park Place".
This farce of a procedure allows them to instantly vote on anything, regardless if it will go into effect immediately or 20 years down the road, and we can't do anything about it. Or so we've seen back in 2013 and again this month.