ACLU Supports NRA's Free-Speech Argument in Suit Against Cuomo Administration

[Madmallard]

The American Civil Liberties Union moved to file a brief on Friday opposing the state’s motion to dismiss the National Rifle Association’s lawsuit against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the state’s top financial regulator.

In a proposed filing with U.S. Magistrate Judge Christian Hummel of the Northern District of New York, the ACLU said the gun-rights lobby’s lawsuit against the state should continue because it addresses free speech rights.

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourn...rgument-in-suit-against-cuomo-administration/

 

[Twogunwilly]

Absolutely shocking.

 

[Karpteach]

I CANNOT believe it.

 

[MuttCat]

Well well well, who'da thunk it? ACLU supporting NRA lawsuit, I love it.

Cuomo does not give a shit about anyone's rights be they individual or corporate. In his delusional reality, only he is the absolute almighty and the serfs and peasants must comply or be banished.

FUAC POS

 

[Dr. Evil]

What's the temperature in hell right now?

 

[Saltwater60]

Where the this is a BS post, just yanking your chain?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Incredulous, but hey, they are actually doing what they are supposed to do for once. I'm sure their supporters are as perplexed as we are, if not shit your pants angry.

 

[Darth]

2 anti gun originations agree on something.

Shocker?

 

[togmaster]

Sometimes shit is so wrong everyone can see the truth. In this instance FUAC is the shit.

 

[Grimscale]

In this instance

What do you mean :in this instance"?
When has FUAC *not* been the shit?

 

[ProgSpear]

The fact that FUAC did something so patently illegal and unconstitutional isn't notable, he has a long record in that regard, but that he did something that forced the ACLU to respond certainly is notable.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

“The NRA aggressively marketed, without a license, an illegal insurance product that would permit intentional criminal conduct to be covered by insurance."

When the fuck is self defense an intentional criminal act? It wasn't called "Murder Guard". Fucking assholes.

 

[oc shooter]

speechless!!!!!

 

[togmaster]

What do you mean :in this instance"?
When has FUAC *not* been the shit?

You are correct. This time and every time since he was born.

 

[libertysnake]

Surprised the ACLU gives a fuck considering they’re not supporters of the second amendment.

 

[Catskillkid]

A broken clock is right twice a day. This, imo, is the ACLU seeing something so egregious (and know the repercussion of this) and feeling they need to take action. Nothing to do with the love of the Second Amendment (I can assure you, the ACLU would be fine with it being abolished). Rather they are concerned about the implications this may have for some of their pet causes. Either way, it's good for us. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, I suppose.

 

[livingston]

ACLU stuck up for the NRA against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
ACLU Sticks Up for the NRA?!
The official view of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) remains that the Second Amendment protects a "collective right rather than an individual right." But the organization nevertheless is helping the National Rifle Association (NRA) fend off extralegal attempts by New York state officials to put it out of business.

In a brief filed in federal court today, the ACLU argues that New York's strong-arm efforts to compel banks and insurance companies to ditch the NRA as a customer represent a glaring violation of the First Amendment.

"Although public officials are free to express their opinions and may condemn viewpoints or groups they view as inimical to public welfare, they cannot abuse their regulatory authority to retaliate against disfavored advocacy organizations and to impose burdens on those organizations' ability to conduct lawful business," the ACLU says.

Andrew Cuomo underlined the regulatory threat in a tweet the next day: "The NRA is an extremist organization. I urge companies in New York State to revisit any ties they have to the NRA and consider their reputations, and responsibility to the public.'"

As a result of those not-very-veiled threats, the NRA says, multiple banks withdrew bids to provide basic depository services. The NRA is also worried about being able to continue producing its NRA TV channel, with hosts including Dana Loesch and Cam Edwards, unless it can obtain normal media liability insurance. (In May, NRA sued Cuomo and Vullo, a former Cuomo aide when he was attorney general. See J.D. Tuccille's Reason coverage at the time.)

"If Cuomo can do this to the NRA, then conservative governors could have their financial regulators threaten banks and financial institutions that do business with any other group whose political views the governor opposes," David Cole, the ACLU's legal director, wrote in a blog post today. "The First Amendment bars state officials from using their regulatory power to penalize groups merely because they promote disapproved ideas."

 

[Acer-m14]

FUAC ... so according to FUAC in this
"“The NRA aggressively marketed, without a license, an illegal insurance product that would permit intentional criminal conduct to be covered by insurance. There can be no legitimate dispute on this issue—and the broker and insurer agreed to resolve these violations of New York insurance law, while the NRA has chosen instead to pursue a contrived litigation strategy to cover up its own law violations,” Vullo continued."

so
NYS income tax (penalty) should not be allowed to be used for the free lawyer because you broke the law too .. i say it should be so lol

 

[Phazer]

Sometimes shit is so wrong everyone can see the truth. In this instance FUAC is the shit.

More likely, the ACLU is scared that this could cut both ways. If Gov. Monkeyface prevails, then states with conservative Republican leadership could crack down on businesses that are anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, and pro-sanctuary cities.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

“The NRA aggressively marketed, without a license, an illegal insurance product that would permit intentional criminal conduct to be covered by insurance."

When the fuck is self defense an intentional criminal act? It wasn't called "Murder Guard". Fucking assholes.

Exactly.....emphasises NY with an always guilty self defense attitude.

 

[Jmac]

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[Shadow rider]

What's the temperature in hell right now?