Another lawsuit against the parkland officer
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POS... What next? Lawsuits against Highway patrol for failing to stop a speeding car resulting in injury?
Is insane how so many want to blame other(s) than the person(s) responsible! The shooter is responsible, period!
Not defending the action/inaction, just saying its wrong to have an expectation that personal protection is provided by LE at any level. And don't think that by some crazy extension, that if this is successful, the precedent would be used by the liberal progressives to demonstrate that LE provides protection and thereby invalidates the SCOTUS ruling about personal defense (firearms).
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Is insane how so many want to blame other(s) than the person(s) responsible! The shooter is responsible, period!
Not defending the action/inaction, just saying its wrong to have an expectation that personal protection is provided by LE at any level. And don't think that by some crazy extension, that if this is successful, the precedent would be used by the liberal progressives to demonstrate that LE provides protection and thereby invalidates the SCOTUS ruling about personal defense (firearms).
/end rant
I mean they are also going after other people as well such as the shooter.
And fuck that POS who let those kids get shot up, at the same time there are unarmed kids and teachers who confronted the shooter to save others.
But yes how dare we get mad at the officer for just hiding outside. Oh let's not forget the two off duty unarmed swat members who rushed in, but again how dare us judge the armed officer hanging out outside
And fuck that POS who let those kids get shot up, at the same time there are unarmed kids and teachers who confronted the shooter to save others.
But yes how dare we get mad at the officer for just hiding outside. Oh let's not forget the two off duty unarmed swat members who rushed in, but again how dare us judge the armed officer hanging out outside
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
"...its wrong to have an expectation that personal protection is provided by LE at any level."
Even including when the subject deputy is an armed, uniformed school resource officer whose explicit job is to do exactly that?
Even including when the subject deputy is an armed, uniformed school resource officer whose explicit job is to do exactly that?
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Not only did that SRO NOT do act, but he told other responding officers to stand down and maintain a perimeter. THAT in itself is the biggest issue I have. Yeah, the original SRO is a complete and utter pussy, but he killed those kids by telling others not to act.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
As appalling as it may be, Warren V DC has settled this already. The police are not a personal security force, and are under no legal obligation to protect you. You can't sue for cowardice or incompetence.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
And Gonzoles v. Castle Rock. Bluntly, SCOTUS has told us we are on our own when it comes to protection, but they refuse to affirm that we are entitled to protect ourselves. All that says to me is SCOTUS is not the final arbiter, we are. Re-read the 9th Amendment. Any court that comes between us and our ability to protect ourselves by any means we see fit is wrong.
WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.
The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado.
The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Exactly.
That's why a government that has abdicated its duty to protect us cannot be allowed to disarm us and prevent us from protecting ourselves.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I think this is different. The deputy committed dereliction of duty. He wasnt expected to act as personal security, he was security for the entire school, and the written proceedures say hes supposed to confront the shooter. He didnt, and many kids died.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I need to go get the earlier cases and read em but strikes me we need to rethink the SRO concept here if qualified immunity applies everywhere, at all times, to all sworn officers in every situation.
Here, you have a person who was placed (and armed, and theoretically trained- and, depending on SOW/ROI *required*) in a place to *specifically* provide security to a place and people in that place, by an elected LE official, in conjunction with the school.
Who is on the hook for this guy either being trained improperly, getting shitty information through the chain of command, or simply being human and failing at the moment of crisis? And who gets punished and more importantly how do we fix it so this doesn't happen again?
Deputy Average Joe on the Beat? Yeah, I get that- he's not on the hook to be at my house the instant Asshole Crackhead with Knife breaks down my door.
Deputy "you are the trained, uniformed, and armed school resource officer at a public school and this goes down"?
Not so much.
Here, you have a person who was placed (and armed, and theoretically trained- and, depending on SOW/ROI *required*) in a place to *specifically* provide security to a place and people in that place, by an elected LE official, in conjunction with the school.
Who is on the hook for this guy either being trained improperly, getting shitty information through the chain of command, or simply being human and failing at the moment of crisis? And who gets punished and more importantly how do we fix it so this doesn't happen again?
Deputy Average Joe on the Beat? Yeah, I get that- he's not on the hook to be at my house the instant Asshole Crackhead with Knife breaks down my door.
Deputy "you are the trained, uniformed, and armed school resource officer at a public school and this goes down"?
Not so much.