ANTIFA clown Michael Forest Reinoehl put down by Police - Burn in Hell !

[@thewheels]

Outside of DC or military bases, which are clearly federal enclaves, where else have US Marshalls traditionally exercised their law enforcement duties for hundreds of years during the history of this nation?

Canadian provinces?

So the anti federalists were fine with them making arrests for violations of state law? Doubt it.

ETA: They only exercise their duties outside of their intended scope due to an unchecked federal behemoth.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I can see antifa trying to make a martyr of him.

Don't care. The scumbag is dead. I'm happy.

 

[John Stark]

If a few leftist run cities have to burn for it, it's unfortunate, but i thin inevitable and a price worth paying to save the rest of the country.

I feel bad for the conservatives and moderates living in those cities, but....

Well at least you're honest that murder and looting and rioting and arson and violent assaults in multiple cities across America is perfectly acceptable to you for the sake of political expediency.

Even if that means American citizens who pay taxes and didn't vote for that insanity, and who have Rights afforded to them EVERYWHERE in the United States and are protected by Federal law, are sacrificed on your altar for the good of "the rest of the country."

How easy it is for people like you safely tapping away on your computer in Geneseo to consign others to the flames.

What a freaking scumbag you are.

 

[spat]

Well at least you're honest that murder and looting and rioting and arson and violent assaults in multiple cities across America is perfectly acceptable to you for the sake of political expediency.

Even if that means American citizens who pay taxes and didn't vote for that ininsanity, and who have Rights afforded to them EVERYWHERE in the United States and are protected by Federal law, are sacrificed on your altar for the good of "the rest of the country."

How easy it is for people like you safely tapping away on your computer in Geneseo to consign others to the flames.

What a freaking scumbag you are.

You suiting up and going to defend a gas station in Kenosha next to Kyle ?

Then I guess it's acceptable to you too.

Was it "acceptable" for thousands of the finest Americans to have ever lived to die on the beaches of Normandy ? No, it was not "acceptable". But it was necessary.

You can try to minimize the losses now, but it will lead to greater losses in the long term. Your inability to see that does not make me "a freaking scumbag".

Make no mistake, we are in the opening stages of a war, and the British weren’t "scumbags" for abandoning the people of France at the opening of WWII, it was a necessary sacrifice. If they had stayed and fought to the last man the end result would have been far worse.

 

[John Stark]

So the anti federalists were fine with them making arrests for violations of state law? Doubt it.

ETA: They only exercise their duties outside of their intended scope due to an unchecked federal behemoth.

More ignorance and bullshit.

Were Federal law enforcement ever directed to step into local matters and assist local law enforcement where there was rioting, looting, arson, murder, etc. before the Federal government became a "behemoth?"

Let's put some kind of goal post on that and stipulate a time frame so you can't weasel word your way out of your original assertion.

Say, before our first Civil War prosecuted under Lincoln.

 

[John Stark]

You suiting up and going to defend a gas station in Kenosha next to Kyle ?

Then I guess it's acceptable to you too.

Was it "acceptable" for thousands of the finest Americans to have ever lived to die on the beaches of Normandy ? No, it was not "acceptable". But it was necessary.

Looks like you've joined the theater of the absurd, in which a certain choo choo train driver around here serves as the ring leader and with whom you like to debate the mask nonsense.

I don't have to suit up and head to Kenosha to call a spade a spade pal.

Freaking Normandy Beach?

Lol

Virtue Signalers unite!

 

[@thewheels]

More ignorance and bullshit.

Were Federal law enforcement ever directed to step into local matters and assist local law enforcement where there was rioting, looting, arson, murder, etc. before the Federal government became a "behemoth?"

Let's put some kind of goal post on that and stipulate a time frame so you can't weasel word your way out of your original assertion.

Say, before our first Civil War prosecuted under Lincoln.

Tell me when the fed wasn't (in your opinion) a behemoth (without tossing around your ad hominem trash) and maybe I'll have an idea.

 

[spat]

Looks like you've joined the theater of the absurd, in which a certain choo choo train driver around here serves as the ring leader and with whom you like to debate the mask nonsense.

I don't have to suit up and head to Kenosha to call a spade a spade pal.

Freaking Normandy Beach?

Lol

Virtue Signalers unite!

Fine, keep doing things the way we've been doing them for the last 50 years. I'm sure it will turn out better *this* time.

 

[Toecutter]

 

[BDinPutnam]

Well at least you're honest that murder and looting and rioting and arson and violent assaults in multiple cities across America is perfectly acceptable to you for the sake of political expediency.

Even if that means American citizens who pay taxes and didn't vote for that insanity, and who have Rights afforded to them EVERYWHERE in the United States and are protected by Federal law, are sacrificed on your altar for the good of "the rest of the country."

How easy it is for people like you safely tapping away on your computer in Geneseo to consign others to the flames.

What a freaking scumbag you are.

Wow, talk about strawmen.

 

[John Stark]

Tell me when the fed wasn't (in your opinion) a behemoth (without tossing around your ad hominem trash) and maybe I'll have an idea.

I just gave you a baseline.

Many American conservative patriots, scholars, commentators etc. have stated that the "road to serfdom" under the "behemoth that our Federal government has become" got underway with the beginning or at least the end of the American Civil War.

So maybe just answer the question, rather than (again) moving the goal posts.

 

[tirwin1]

Those American citizens you keep throwing under the bus for the sake of political expedience are paying a high price so that slime like you can say they deserve what's happening in their communities. There are both patriotic Americans in these cities getting attacked and their businesses burned down, as well as law abiding, tax paying citizens who may not be politically aware, active, or interested, who are taxed for policing services. They do not deserve to have their lives ruined or even snuffed out so guys like you can say they're getting what they voted for.

Stop cheerleading for anarchy in American streets. Its sickening. This nation was built on law and order, with peaceful redress of grievances, NOT for organized crime to rule over us.

The ends do not justify the means. Ever.

The vast majority of the people in these cities voted for the leaders they have. If they are too goddam stupid to learn from history before voting then they will have to learn the hard way. It sucks for the minority that didn't vote that way but that's the way it is. No one is cheerleading for anarchy in the streets except the hard core leftists. It's an absolute disgrace and a failure of government at the local and state level. Recognizing reality is not the same as approval of the results.

 

[@thewheels]

I just gave you a baseline.

Many American conservative patriots, scholars, commentators etc. have stated that the "road to serfdom" under the "behemoth that our Federal government has become" got underway with the beginning or at least the end of the American Civil War.

So maybe just answer the question, rather than (again) moving the goal posts.

Fine. IMO, the Whiskey Rebellion was probably the 1st example. Anti federalism got knocked on its ass there.

 

[John Stark]

Wow, talk about strawmen.

Where is the strawman?

He explicitly stated that its better for these cities to burn (with all of the other violence that entails) so those voters learn a lesson and vote for better politicians, and "for the good of the rest of the country."

That is the very definition of political expediency.

 

[spat]

Where is the strawman?

He explicitly stated that its better for these cities to burn (with all of the other violence that entails) so those voters learn a lesson and vote for better politicians, and "for the good of the rest of the country."

That is the very definition of political expediency.

The people in those cities explicitly voted for this.

They demanded that their leaders not impose any kind of penalty on the people perpetrating these crimes.

If the feds come in and bail them out ( remind me again how looting and rioting are federal crimes ?) then the people will just vote for more of the same.

You will not improve these cities in the long run by doing that, anymore than the welfare state improves the lives of the poor.

People (and collectively cities) have to be allowed to make bad choices and suffer the consequences. It is part and parcel of freedom.

How would you like it if the Biden/Harris administration come in and started using federal officers to enforce state gun laws that locals refused to enforce ? They would certainly argue that it's "for our own good".

As far as me not suffering because I live in Geneseo, you're right, we would never put up with that stuff here. However I we will be suffering significantly for the extremely poor choices our state level leaders have been making.

That's why I am following my own advice and getting the hell out before it gets any worse.

 

[CaseHardened]

I can see antifa trying to make a martyr of him.

SORRY

It's already been done !

 

[holdover]

I'm not sure I agree.

In the short term federalizing them may make sense, but in the long term I think we are better off with the people who voted for these politicians having to suffer for their choices.

How much suffering is enough?

 

[holdover]

The people in those cities explicitly voted for this.

They demanded that their leaders not impose any kind of penalty on the people perpetrating these crimes.

If the feds come in and bail them out ( remind me again how looting and rioting are federal crimes ?) then the people will just vote for more of the same.

Dude You cant say they that they voted for it any more you can say we voted for the safe act.

 

[Mosinitis]

People are losing patiance even in NYC.

 

[Mosinitis]

Another follow up car or two would be nice.

 

[spat]

Dude You cant say they that they voted for it any more you can say we voted for the safe act.

We (collectively NYers) did vote for the safe act.

 

[spat]

How much suffering is enough?

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You'd have to ask the people of Portland and Kenosha, etc...

It will end when they demand a change. We can't do that for them, and we shouldn't try.

 

[cgrutt]

We (collectively NYers) did vote for the safe act.

Um no. Us NYers voted or a legislator who betrayed our desires in appeasement to the tyrant.

 

[spat]

Um no. Us NYers voted or a legislator who betrayed our desires in appeasement to the tyrant.

Most of the people who voted (the NYC crew) are all in favor of SAFE. That's why we've got it.

We won't be rid of this problem until either SCOTUS slaps it down, or enough FUDDs get something they care about infringed to start voting against It.