Bill to ban bump stocks and binary triggers introduced
- Thread starter Cureforcancer
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BuellSix8
.40 S&W
Well, guess now is the time to order Taccon 3MR trigger sets lol. Going to be gone the wayside.
Hysterical how all these years the media has been saying automatic weapons and NOW they are trying to explain the difference and are still getting it wrong.
Hysterical how all these years the media has been saying automatic weapons and NOW they are trying to explain the difference and are still getting it wrong.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Does anyone else see the resemblance?
It will be interesting to see if our representatives have any balls left.
It will be interesting to see if our representatives have any balls left.
Now, if the Republicans had ANY balls, they would attach a rider to her bill that provided for absolute unrestricted National Reciprocity, and the Share Act, and that would outlaw the ability of any state or local government entity to pass any law to restrict gun rights. Oh, and it should require that all persons wanting to exercise their right to vote have to jump through the exact same hoops as gun owners.
Great idea. Unfortunately no balls exist.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This bill makes no difference as those devices are useless in the first place.
Agreed. So let the anti's have their bill, and make the adders to the bill good for us.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
To be honest I'm surprised it took this long for bump stocks to be used for this kind of evil. I half expect these devices to be banned after this. However who is going to define what is or is not "Accelerated Fire"?
A custom trigger is in no way a bump device but can accelerate fire by hundredths of seconds ... so what's the criteria.
Laws are to be Narrowly Tailored!
“It shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a trigger crank, a bump-fire device or any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun,” the bill states.
A custom trigger is in no way a bump device but can accelerate fire by hundredths of seconds ... so what's the criteria.
Laws are to be Narrowly Tailored!
“It shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a trigger crank, a bump-fire device or any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun,” the bill states.
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
No have Trump step in and introduce what is right and retire what isnt right for once and for all like safe act.
The damage this guy made cound have been done with a huge nr. Of calibers and weapons. I dont care if a useless and controversial feauture goes away as soon as orher features are restored like grips and breaks magazines that do not mate the firearm nor the caliber more lethal.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Ignorant politicians.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah, too hard to define what would constitute what they aim to ban with all the after market triggers out there. It's possible they may go for some kind of regulation for the the weight of trigger pull in a semi auto.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
the whole thing of "features" needs to be stopped. Period.
In our awesome world it would. I cannot in their world because the level of ignorance is off the charts. All of these anti gunners really believe that these extra features make these guns more evil and deadly.
Kind of funny, I am like many here, if I do not know a subject, I try my best to research and educate the ignorance away. I read and ask questions. At least most of the time.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Back in the good old days before bump stocks, the cool kids with more ammo than brains would bump fire pistols and rifles by holding the gun a certain way against their trigger finger. If you couldn't do it that way, a ball point pen substituted for the trigger finger made it easier to do. I guess we better ban fingers and pens too.
Yeah I'm not really a gun person per say, but I wanted to see what actual gun owners thought about bump stocks. From reading this discussion I'm guessing a ban wouldn't change much. That's kind of what I expected going into this. I've seen so many news outlets talking about how this is going to be a big deal and I don't really see anything wrong with it. The idea of bump stocks seemed kind of stupid. Is there anything else I should actually know about them?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Hmmmmmmm...........first post...........hot-button political issue...........
Nobody even knew what a "bump fire" stock was before this.
It's not all of a sudden "a problem that needs banning."
Not in the least.
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I just have to shake my head at some posts on my FB feed from the "I support the 2A, BUT" crowd. They've clearly learned nothing when they post shit like "I'm totally fine with a ban on X as long as we keep our other rights."
I have no respect for those people.
Yeah sorry, I'm not a gun owner. Not opposed to guns. Just wanted to know what actual owners thought. You're completely right about it being my first post and a hot political issue.
Cureforcancer
.223 Rem
Corrupt politicians like Andrew Cuomo is what the US needs to ban from high office.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Go to a range.
Sign up for a private rifle instruction.
Learn some firearm safety and try progressively larger caliber rifles during your lesson.
Try firing a semi-auto rifle rapidly (provided that it is allowed by your instructor).
Once you understand what is involved in recreational shooting, you may be able to discern why some people might like to vary their shooting activities safely on their own time, with their own property, and without government interference.
Answer this when has banning something actually worked? Prohibition? Nope just gave the black market a boost. Drugs, nope just made the cartels more dangerous. Prostitution, nope just made organized crime just start trafficking in humans (kidnapping girls and moving them to foreign countries and forcing them to work as sex slaves). The list goes on.
Murder is already illegal do you think that passing another law that says you can't murder people with XXX IS GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE?
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pjzwtl
.308 Win
I will simply say this. I would consider bump fire or similar devices to be a novelty for some who like to waste cash on silly toys. They have been around for years and banning them won't change anything. It is probably for the better that he used them or he may have had more accuracy and the body count would have been higher.
We as a society need to deal with why someone would feel the need to commit such an inhuman act. This is the real issue and to hard for the asshats of either party to deal with.
Why is there more you should know about them...? Here fishy fishy...
State your purpose? If you're not a gun owner then what are you looking for, an education?
What you need to know is the people crying the loudest about it, know the least. They only know that there's something they think is evil and makes guns better or faster or like magic! It's not so.
99.9999% of gun owners in this country are your neighbor, your teacher, your dentist, doctor, etc., and they are law abiding citizens. The ones crying the loudest to do something want to make those 100,000,000 Law abiding citizens jump through hoops, donate DNA, a small fortune and wait forever to exercise a Right because of the criminal act/actions of a few mental case individuals. They ignore all the facts and don't care about anything other than their agenda. Evident by this, what's a Bumpstop? And Silencers need to be outlawed... All ridiculousness...
You cannot enact a Law to affect anyone who ignored the Law. You cannot legislate morality! Someone who is bent on killing will... And for those who think that they can't do it as proficiently are mistaken.
I'm not nice to new guys on a good day, so take it for what it's worth!
Patriot
.308 Win
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Thinking that an AR15 is more dangerous than a garand or a well trained bolt action is the kind of stupidity we are dealing with.
This las vegas thug didn't know what he was doing in terms of tactics and we have to be tankfull for that.
The stupid slide stock probably saved lots of lives. There are calibers that would have been more devastating.
A huge number of subsonic calibers could have been used from a deeply concealed position and could have been
at it for much longer undetected and with proper aimed fire w/o many people knowing they were even being shot
from above.
That is why you need a urban sniper team at large open gatherings like this. It doesn't have to be an open boston or NYC marathon
to know you are exposing people and those have sniper teams in place and observing.
I'm so confused by the people on this forum...
Do you hop on the chance to call everyone who isn't a gun owner an SJW? I'm genuinely interested in your opinion and you dismiss the chance to inform me as an "invasion" by SJW's. Why do you want to make me your enemy? You accuse the other side of being uninformed but refuse to teach people.
Thanks but you don't have to prove you're a badass to me. I could give less of a shit what you think about new guys. I just wanted your opinion and learn a bit more about people in the gun owning community.
Patriot
.308 Win
My job isn’t to teach you. It’s your responsibility to find your own teacher and do your own research. Your lack of honesty about your real purpose here is pretty obvious.
If you are truly looking for an education, this is the place to get it. We have a wealth of information and we all pass it along the best we can.
Stick around, introduce yourself and allow us to get to know you a bit.