Classification of Black Powder Revolving Carbine

[Sev289]

How exactly are blackpowder revolvers and revolving carbines classified? As a rifle/pistol or as muzzleloaders?

 

[Tisto]

Seems to me they would be muzzleloaders, as long as there is no cartridge case.

Good question though. I could be wrong, but I would bet not.

Now, if you're talking about a black powder cartridge, that's a whole different story. Having a cartridge, which is complete and ready to fire prior to it's insertion into the gun changes everything.

 

[Xae289]

Black powder (cap and ball) revolvers are not legal to use during muzzleloader hunting season. I checked the regs last year, so unless they changed things this year, they're treated the same as any cartridge loaded, smokeless handgun.

As far as a revolving cylinder carbine, that's a really good question.

 

[Acer-m14]

<< loads 12ga shotgun shells with black powder can i hunt hummmm lol @Xae289 .. i'd like to see the regs on that .. you can hunt with a 10mm glock but not a 44cal PB revolver .. seems odd ..

not sure what the op is really asking for ..

 

[Robin]

Depends on who is doing the classifying. They can be all three to an enthusiast. Legally, again depends on who is doing the classifying, ATF, each state, then within each state their DEC or equivalent may have a further classification. All too complicated for me, usually grinds on my constitutional sensibilities.
Robin

 

[Xae289]

<< loads 12ga shotgun shells with black powder can i hunt hummmm lol @Xae289 .. i'd like to see the regs on that .. you can hunt with a 10mm glock but not a 44cal PB revolver .. seems odd ..

not sure what the op is really asking for ..

I didn't say that at all. You can definitely hunt with a .44 cal BP revolver during any time when you can hunt or have a regular handgun afield with you. Based on last year's regs, you can't hunt with or have one afield during muzzleloader season, specifically, because the DEC treats black powder revolvers the same as any other modern handgun for hunting purposes. Later when I have more time, I'll like you to the specific regs on that (and see if it changed from last year to this year).

I assumed the OP was talking about NY DEC classification for hunting purposes since this is the hunting forum. If he wants other info on its classification, it's just as @Robin said – depends on who's classifying it and what you're doing with it.

 

[turbobike]

As far as power, my 7.5” Ruger Old Army with a 240gr Kiado bullet flat nose and 37gr of 777 powder, I get over 600lbs of energy... Enough for any deer within 75 yds..

 

[Xae289]

<< loads 12ga shotgun shells with black powder can i hunt hummmm lol @Xae289 .. i'd like to see the regs on that .. you can hunt with a 10mm glock but not a 44cal PB revolver .. seems odd ..

not sure what the op is really asking for ..

Found the reference, fyi and for anyone who's interested. Circled in red in the attached picture from the DEC website and here's the link (under the muzzleloader section): Deer and Bear Hunting Regulations