Collin's challenging the Safe Act?
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Idk but it did make this post exponentially better
Deplorable Me
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Every time the word trump is used, a liberal's head explodes. Liberals don't comprehend the constitution.
Trump, trump, trump......
The Biggest issue affecting people today is the reforming Healthcare, People are screaming about it. Double digit premium hikes along with Less coverage. What's your increase this year? lol.. If the Republicans can deliver that along with SAGA I think they would be in good shape come them Midterms. It's doesn't looks good.... Oh and this "Fake" Russia thing needs to go away very soon.
ProgSpear
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Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Ninth trumps Tenth according to some analyses. If the "right" of abortion can be fabricated from thin air by citing the ninth amendment, they I can certainly claim the right to defend enumerated rights under the ninth amendment.
CRS/LII Annotated Constitution Ninth Amendment
Celt
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I tried reading this whole thread, but way to much bickering. All i can say is i hope this goes somewhere. I havent read up on it in depth, but im all for any incremental forward progress we can make. The same way the antis take it from us is how we can hope to get our rights back.
Write Winger
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Here's what it means for CA.
https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/what-the-second-amendment-guarantee-act-means-for-california/
If anyone involved would like to reach out to me, I have contacts with 2A groups out here willing to help.
I'm happy to see Tom Reed say he'll get in on this. What's needed is more US Reps from specifically "Infringed States" to say they'll cosponsor as well.
https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/what-the-second-amendment-guarantee-act-means-for-california/
If anyone involved would like to reach out to me, I have contacts with 2A groups out here willing to help.
I'm happy to see Tom Reed say he'll get in on this. What's needed is more US Reps from specifically "Infringed States" to say they'll cosponsor as well.
JosERW
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Been a while. I know it is easy to be pessimistic here in NY, lord knows I have been but I have been in contact with several of the people who helped write this bill and who have been working to get it signed into law. They are all intelligent and passionate people and while I know its easy to be apprehensive we all need to throw our support behind this bill. One of the biggest complaints I am hearing from the people involved is that there has been a lot of negatively, especially on social media, when it comes to promoting this bill. As it is my understanding, this bill can either be passed with 60 votes or 51 if passed with an appropriations bill. What do you have to lose supporting this bill?
I know its hard, but stay positive. Aside from Kolbe this might be our best shot.
I know its hard, but stay positive. Aside from Kolbe this might be our best shot.
I was just talking about this in a different post. The bill was introduced 22 days ago, not one single cosponsor to date 8-18-17
While the national reciprocity had 63 Cosponsors the same day it was introduced
Of course the people who wrote it made it sound like everything is all rose colored and damn good to go,
While the national reciprocity had 63 Cosponsors the same day it was introduced
Of course the people who wrote it made it sound like everything is all rose colored and damn good to go,
Marine Cpl
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I don't think anyone is "NOT" supporting this bill. They are just pessimistic that it will not go anywhere based on the shenanigans of our own party who have been bought and paid for to not support it and go full steam ahead.
Also, the lack of support from the NRA is sickening and telling. This bill should be plastered at every gun shop, rifle range, ECT. It's the NRA's job to inform so that we pressure the senators and representatives.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
This bill is going nowhere. No co-sponsors in 22 days. That should tell you all you need to know.
It's a feel good measure, it's smoke and mirrors. Here's another Republican politician who is introducing a piece of legislation that allows him/her to grandstand at rallies and press conferences that him/her are "standing up for the 2nd Amendment" all the while KNOWING his/her efforts are going nowhere.
Chris Collins has high negatives, especially when he's made to look like a horses ass in the national media when he openly admits he votes on legislation he doesn't even bother to read. Then he's attached at the hip to unsavory characters and investigated for insider trading violations. This isn't Steve McLaughlin we're talking about who is in my humble opinion the most honest and trustworthy Republican to ever serve in an elected capacity in ANY office of Government. This is Chris Collins, no more honest, trustworthy, or committed to the cause than the Democrats he runs and cowers from in the House of Representatives.
If Chris Collins had the strength of his convictions, he'd run for Governor. Notice how he isn't ? That's because he's fat, drunk, and happy living off your misery and skimming off the top as a Congressman.
You people are being duped once again. Hopes raised, only to have them crushed so another RINO can get reelected on YOUR backs and the backs of those who believe in the Constitution.
We have one shot at overturning Unsafe and that's in SCOTUS and we're a long way from getting there.
I went to his photo op at the Hamburg Gun Club, and even took the time to talk to him. I agree, - I don't see this thing going ANYWHERE! I have checked out various other Bills introduced in the House around the same time, and some of those have dozens of initial cosponsors. I have also been checking on his Bill, HR3576, and as you guys noted, - yep, EXACTLY ZERO cosponsors so far!
Hell, even HR38, the National Reciprocity Bill which has 208 cosponsors (only 218 needed to pass legislation in the House) is going nowhere so far! Collins bill appears to be worth less than the paper it is written on.
All it will take is some fucked up incident to occur, and you can kiss any chance at passing any pro gun bill in Congress. I am completely disgusted at the actions of the RINO fuckers, - especially Paul Ryan.
Weekend Update!!!...Weekend Update!!!
Or, to paraphrase Steve Martin as Navin R. Johnson in that classic movie The Jerk who exclaimed: the new phone books are here...the new phone books are here...things are going to start happening now!
Ding, Ding, Ding!!!
I just saw where Rep. Collins SAGA bill, HR 3576 now has TWO cosponsors as of 8/18/2017!!! We only need another 216 in the House! Now that this bill is in print, things are going to start happening with SAGA!
Or, to paraphrase Steve Martin as Navin R. Johnson in that classic movie The Jerk who exclaimed: the new phone books are here...the new phone books are here...things are going to start happening now!
Ding, Ding, Ding!!!
I just saw where Rep. Collins SAGA bill, HR 3576 now has TWO cosponsors as of 8/18/2017!!! We only need another 216 in the House! Now that this bill is in print, things are going to start happening with SAGA!
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4excal
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Any time there's almost 300 posts in a thread here, most of it has to be bickering, or stupidity laced lol
Hey and after those 216 votes, then it's another 60 in the Senate
Let's see 2 from NY, HI, NJ, MA, CA, OR, CO,
That's just off the top of my head of 14 votes no
Update! Update! Update!
Hold the presses Collin's SAGA Act, Bill #3576 is now up to THREE cosponsors as of 9/5/2017!!!
OMG! I may be getting a Chris Matthews type tingle down my leg! LOL!
Hold the presses Collin's SAGA Act, Bill #3576 is now up to THREE cosponsors as of 9/5/2017!!!
OMG! I may be getting a Chris Matthews type tingle down my leg! LOL!
Holy shit, at this rate this thing will be on POTUS's desk by end of the week since it is guaranteed to pass
ADK
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I find nothing funny about that. Perhaps instead of LOL ing you might contact your Rep and ask him or her to cosponsor the bill.
That is how you get things done. When you do nothing you get nothing.
Ha jokes on you sucka my rep was the first to cosponsor a failed bill so he could pretend to look pro 2a
41 DAYS
3 COSPONSORS
3 COSPONSORS
Collins IS my Rep. I support SCOPE, the group behind this effort. I took time off work and went to Collin's announcement at the Hamburg Gun club. I spoke to him, and offered my support. I have contacted the members of the House Committee that is responsible for passing out HR38 and HR3576 to be voted on in the house.
Am I poking a little fun at it's lack of progress? Absolutely! It's called sarcasm! you know, - /sarc?
What more would you have me do? I still work every day to support my family. What have you done?
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ArmedCorgi
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Deplorable Me
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Sorry but nope I find the lack of support funny as balls
eAlso i know me and @VietnamEraVet had a little bit of a misunderstanding in this specific thread so shout out to him I honestly think we are pretty much on the same side just had a misunderstanding
We're good. No issues!
ArmedCorgi
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Oh well.
ADK
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Sucka? First off I was not addressing you. Perhaps you had to many spirits this morning and need to sleep it off. I find it interesting you think
your Rep Tom Reed is pretending to be pro second amendment. I find that a bit odd as the NRA has rated him an A and it appears he is quite Pro
second amendment. Perhaps you can point out to this unknowing one why you made that statement and what you have to back it up with.
ADK
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Personally I don't poke fun at people that are in my boat. I take my gun rights and all my other rights seriously.
Now on to your question as to "What have you done?"
Well let me think about that for a moment. I am a NRA certified Rifle, Pistol and Shotgun Instructor. I have my own shooting range which
many of my friends use every week. I write my Reps on issues as can be seen here.
August 11, 2017
Dear Mr. ADK,
Thank you for contacting me regarding your support of our nation’s Second Amendment Rights. It is an honor to serve the people of New York’s 21 st Congressional District and I appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
Please know that I am a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment. When I was sworn into office to represent the North Country, I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. The right to keep and bear arms is an individual liberty protected in our founding documents.
As a gun owner and a card-carrying member of the NRA, I strongly oppose legislation and any executive actions that infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens to bear arms. As your representative in Congress, I will work to defend your constitutional liberties, including your Second Amendment Rights.
With that in mind I thought you would be interested to know that I have cosponsored H.R. 38, the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This piece of legislation protects law-abiding gun owners when they travel between states. It also provides the legal framework to take action against states or localities that infringe on the provisions defined in this bill. Please be assured I will continue to work with my colleagues and explore ways to ensure the federal government does not infringe on our constitutional liberties.
Thank you again for sharing your views and opinions with me. I am committed to serving you to the best of my abilities. I appreciate you taking the time to contact my office and I welcome the opportunity to speak with you about any issues impacting our district.
As part of my commitment to transparency, I post my votes on my Facebook page which you can find here. I also encourage you to subscribe to my weekly e-newsletter to keep up to date on my efforts representing New York’s 21st District here .
Please feel free to contact any of my offices in the future if you seek assistance. Thank you for reaching out to me.
It is a privilege to serve you and your family.
Sincerely,
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Elise M. Stefanik
Member of Congress