Colorado man arrested on hate crimes for making racist slurs

[Saltwater60]

I obviously don’t know what was said because the video is t attached but I don’t support racism so I likely wouldn’t support what the man said. With that being said I’m not sure words can equate to a hate crime. I don’t support the moron saying or acting the way he did but arrests for a hate crime might be taking it too far.

Man charged on hate crime charges after racist rant caught on video at In-N-Out Burger

Jordan Krah was charged on hate crime charges after police say he was caught on a TikTok video making racist comments at an In-N-Out Burger.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Grimscale]

I don’t support racism so I likely wouldn’t support what the man said.

With the definition of "racism" being changed to include more and more, how would you be able to support anything at all?

What ever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

Nowadays any comment that shows you do not like or agree with another person is automatically categorized as "racism" or some other kind of "-ism".

There is no such thing as free speech anymore.

 

[Saltwater60]

With the definition of "racism" being changed to include more and more, how would you be able to support anything at all?

What ever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

Nowadays any comment that shows you do not like or agree with another person is automatically categorized as "racism" or some other kind of "-ism".

There is no such thing as free speech anymore.

Categorizing something as racism and charging someone with a hate crime for mere words is a huge leap. People can have whatever opinion they want on things and say anything is racism but until this happens it’s their opinion and opinions don’t matter much. Now that the authorities are taking action and arresting people for their comments this is a whole new level.
I’ll say it again in a different way and that is I don’t agree with hating someone for the color of their skin or even their sexual preferences. I do think there are only two sexes/genders but if you want to be trans then fine I do t really care as long as it’s not impacting me.

 

[Jmac00]

I have a couple issues with this video. One, the douchebag approached these two completely out of the blue. To me, thats complete bullshit. Mind your own fucking business. It was completely unnecessary

Two, and my big concern, is when the douchebag said "I'll be waiting for you outside" to me, that's a direct threat to their {my} safety.

I don't give a rats ass if you want to be gay, or whatever. What I DO have a problem with is forcing straight people, especially children, to accept their lifestyle. ie, "trans-people" and forcing children to watch and/or accept Trans or Drag shows.

Just because less than 6% of the population has a mental problem, doesn't mean you can force the rest of us to accept your life choices.

and what's the penalty for a "Hate speech" Jail? a fine? anger management classes?

 

[Saltwater60]

I have a couple issues with this video. One, the douchebag approached these two completely out of the blue. To me, thats complete bullshit. Mind your own fucking business. It was completely unnecessary

Two, and my big concern, is when the douchebag said "I'll be waiting for you outside" to me, that's a direct threat to their {my} safety.

I don't give a rats ass if you want to be gay, or whatever. What I DO have a problem with is forcing straight people, especially children, to accept their lifestyle. ie, "trans-people" and forcing children to watch and/or accept Trans or Drag shows.

Just because less than 6% of the population has a mental problem, doesn't mean you can force the rest of us to accept your life choices.

and what's the penalty for a "Hate speech" Jail? a fine? anger management classes?

I agree with everything you said. With that being said though I think a hate crime is too much. If anyone else said I’ll see you outside in a minute nothing would happen and no arrests would be made. This guy was even charged. I agree it could be taken as a threat and should be. The only thing I saw is these two said they were scared so now what the level to charge someone with a crime? If the others are scared. So what if I say I voted for Trump and that scares my neighbors, is this now a hate crime?
This is a slippery slope and I fully agree this guy is an asshole and the aggressor and maybe should have been charged with harassment or disorderly conduct, but a hate crime?? I don’t know.

By what I can see and read here it doesn’t meet the definition of a hate crime in California because it says interfere with another’s rights and use force. He used no force and it’s borderline he interfered with their rights. Yes it was disruptive and probably made them upset and scared, but Kathy hochul passing these gun laws makes me upset and scared she will do more so is that a hate crime?

https://www.kannlawoffice.com/california-penal-code-section-422-6-a-hate-crimes

 

[Steal2B]

The solutions for the "plight" suggested in the video included

forcing public displays of aberrance down everyone's throat to normalize aberrant public behavior

gun control

WTF

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

"Racism" is a one way ticket in this country. A white guy says something they claim is racist, they destroy his life. Meanwhile, Darrel Brooks who mowed down mostly white people in Waukesha, rapped about hating white people. No hate crime was ever charged. The R word was never once brought up. He was just commiting a crime and was fleeing and got into an accident which killed many people and injured even more. Basically you are only a racist if you are a white male.

 

[fresch]

Most of the politicians therefore should be treated the same way.
Hurt my feelings your raaaaacist.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Freedom of speech, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean he should be arrested. I hope he sues and wins.

There are no bad words, if people would stop being butthurt over them, people would stop trying to use them. Almost every bad word has been repurposed from its original meaning

 

[Saltwater60]

Freedom of speech, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean he should be arrested. I hope he sues and wins.

There are no bad words, if people would stop being butthurt over them, people would stop trying to use them. Almost every bad word has been repurposed from its original meaning

He will be acquitted because he didn’t cause harm or use force. I sure hope he sues everyone involved like the state and media reporting him as a racist.

 

[dwa12479]

That was harassment for sure. But thats at the most. I have a hard time with elevated charges for "hate crimes". Its too subjective and is not applied evenly

 

[spat]

With the definition of "racism" being changed to include more and more, how would you be able to support anything at all?

What ever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

Nowadays any comment that shows you do not like or agree with another person is automatically categorized as "racism" or some other kind of "-ism".

There is no such thing as free speech anymore.

Since math is now racist, maybe the guy was just accusing him of short changing him...

 

[spat]

That was harassment for sure. But thats at the most. I have a hard time with elevated charges for "hate crimes". Its too subjective and is not applied evenly

Nearly every real crime is a hate crime. You don't victimize someone without hating them at least a little bit.

What we have done is to decide that some categories of "hate" are worse than others.

Pretty sure if you murder some guy for sleeping with your wife, you hated him. But apparently it only counts if the participants skin color matches the approved pattern.

 

[Grimscale]

Kathy hochul passing these gun laws makes me upset and scared she will do more so is that a hate crime?

Well....yeah, what she's doing is quite obviously a hate crime.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

It will boil down to what the jury says.

 

[Saltwater60]

It will boil down to what the jury says.

If it goes to a jury trial and if he can afford one. Likely it will get tossed quietly or plead down.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

You guys shouldn't play into the whole "hate crime" nonsense. There's no such thing. There are actions that we already have laws and penalties for. "Hate crime" is just a way to broaden the application of those penalties on more "offenses". This incident being a prime example. Again. Don't play into the nonsense labels. It's exactly the same as "assault weapons".