Corona is a major over-reaction designed by the Democrats as a last-ditch effort to harm President Trump

[CaseHardened]

The title says it all.

This is Complete Crap.

I must give the Dems credit - they have raised a generation or two of pitiful sheep, that can't see the Forest for the Trees.

Once again, nature is not our enemy. The LIBERALS are !!

 

[Jmac00]

the media is a devious mistress. The media keeps telling everyone to not panic, but then throws virus numbers at the populace that makes them scared. Like this : YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, but don't panic

MY suggestion is to turn the news off, except for the weather. I know the weather comes on at about 13-15 minutes into the news cast, that all I watch

 

[CaseHardened]

Our lovable RINO governor (and Trump hater) Charlie Baker, has suspended Schools for three weeks.

And closed Bars and Restaurants for a MONTH !!!

What a complete A-HOLE !

The economic repercussions will be extensive - and completely unecessary.

We do have a Dem State House and Senate. Don't they have the balls to over-ride this insanity ?

The CURE is far worse than the DISEASE !!

 

[MothMan]

Our lovable RINO governor (and Trump hater) Charlie Baker, has suspended Schools for three weeks (good).

And closed Bars and Restaurants for a MONTH !!!

What a complete A-HOLE !

The economic repercussions will be extensive - and completely unecessary.

We do have a Dem State House and Senate. Don't they have the balls to over-ride this insanity ?

The CURE is far worse than the DISEASE !!

They are much to busy writing gun control legislation.

 

[seezur]

The virus is very real and it’s a result of China having terrible sanitation, hygiene and regulations.

Yes, there will be some unscrupulous people who will try to make this political and yes the media is sensationalizing this.

That being said this is a serious issue. I know it upsets some people, but social distancing and in some situations quarantine, closings and maybe eventually curfews will be necessary to stem new cases. If this gets out of hand because people think it’s ”just the flu”, hospitals will be overwhelmed and the current 3.4% fatality rate (CFR) will skyrocket. That’s a low estimate too, as it normally takes 6-8 weeks to result in death so the eventual CFR will be higher.

If you’re older (CFR starts increasing meaningfully after age 50) or have preexisting health conditions, it obviously exacerbates things (double digit CFR). Don’t be like the asshole I saw the other day in Walgreens coughing his lungs out on the pharmacist. Stay home if you’re sick, wash your hands, and know that if we slow this down now, the economy and life in general will return to normal that much sooner.

 

[dsdmmat]

It is a plot to fix the social security system.

 

[masterswimmer]

@CaseHardened people are using this pandemic to politicize a worldwide problem. Your pushback to the closed bars is shortsighted. Social distancing is absolutely one of the first lines of defense and a way to stem the spread of COVID-19.

 

[livingston]

I had NPR on and they run this pandemic about 90 % of the stories . The first thing out of an interviewers mouth was how bad trump has handled this situation and that we need real adults in the room to get through this thing...... Promoting fear folks Makes folks come back for their daily dose of fear ...

 

[Blimey]

I would agree with this based on how it appears to have panned out in China and South Korea.

However, looking at what appears to be an all-out cluster fuck in Italy, and now spreading to Norway, France, and others, I think we do in fact need a nationwide shutdown. I don't think we're overreacting. It appears 1-3% of the population (and it's been more than that in Italy) who gets this will die. That's a pretty massive deal, particularly since many projects are estimating over 50% infection rate in major western nations.

Of course it is being politicized. I heard what Schumer said yesterday or day before about the plan and how Trump "had to" sign on. Schumer was acting like the nastiest little bitch I've ever heard a grown man act like. It was hideously petty, despicable behavior. The stuff he was saying was shameful.

I'm isolating my entire family starting today. working from home, kids not going to friends, just cancelled dentist appointment for Wednesday. I also advised my parents to not leave their house for at least a couple of weeks. For us this is not a terrible burden. I can easily work remote and my kids can rot their brains in front of the TV. I understand for many it's very difficult to do this.

 

[BDinPutnam]

It is a plot to fix the social security system.

This is I think literally the ONLY conspiracy theory I would *almost* buy into (and I don't).

Glad to see some very rational if understandably concerned responses in this thread.

 

[Blimey]

This is I think literally the ONLY conspiracy theory I would *almost* buy into (and I don't).

Glad to see some very rational if understandably concerned responses in this thread.

I'm seeing some possibly legit rumors that the UK is looking to "accept" that a lot of people will get this, almost in a meh what can you do sort of notion. That will knock out a good percentage of seniors, which cost a lot of money in health care anyway. It must have crossed the mind of politicians and how it would help their budget a few years from now.

 

[Day444]

It's a global conspiracy! A world government plan, to get the masses to bow and become dependent on them for every aspect of our lives.

Develop a virus that has no easy cure and spread it like wild fire. Do nothing to contain it's out break until it has reached every part of the globe. Then when there is mass contamination, continue to spread panic.

Start the isolation of people, restrict their movement, prevent them from traveling. How better to control people than to have them solitary or at least in small groups and confined.

Keep people apart by creating "safe personal zones", thus becoming more isolated. Impose curfews to further isolate and control peoples movement.

Public media can be corrupted/controlled to only broadcast what the government wants the message to be. (not that it hasn't been that way for years.) Continue to spread panic, continue to divide the masses.

Make people dependent on the government for supporting them while out of work, due to a public health concern. Compound the stress these people have by having to stay at home with their children and worry about their welfare.

Start a rash of of unrealistic hording, Toilet paper, there's no real shortage, but it has become more important than it really is. Making a small division of have and have nots. It's created a black market based on un realistic, un founded necessity.

A foreseeable future of confiscation of weapon-try the public may have. An un-armed population is easier to control. The Democrats/Liberals dream state.

 

[Blimey]

It's a global conspiracy! A world government plan, to get the masses to bow and become dependent on them for every aspect of our lives.

Develop a virus that has no easy cure and spread it like wild fire. Do nothing to contain it's out break until it has reached every part of the globe. Then when there is mass contamination, continue to spread panic.

Start the isolation of people, restrict their movement, prevent them from traveling. How better to control people than to have them solitary or at least in small groups and confined.

Keep people apart by creating "safe personal zones", thus becoming more isolated. Impose curfews to further isolate and control peoples movement.

Public media can be corrupted/controlled to only broadcast what the government wants the message to be. (not that it hasn't been that way for years.) Continue to spread panic, continue to divide the masses.

Make people dependent on the government for supporting them while out of work, due to a public health concern. Compound the stress these people have by having to stay at home with their children and worry about their welfare.

Start a rash of of unrealistic hording, Toilet paper, there's no real shortage, but it has become more important than it really is. Making a small division of have and have nots. It's created a black market based on un realistic, un founded necessity.

A foreseeable future of confiscation of weapon-try the public may have. An un-armed population is easier to control. The Democrats/Liberals dream state.

That's possible.

But what if...this is actually a real virus and governments are just trying to control it instead of anything more nefarious? Isn't that a very real possibility?

 

[holdover]

Meh, When I see the obituary's I'll be concerned. I can understand taking whatever precautions you see necessary but I'm not concerned with it .

 

[holdover]

It is a plot to fix the social security system.

You mean the social security virus?

 

[CaseHardened]

If you’re older (CFR starts increasing meaningfully after age 50) or have preexisting health conditions, it obviously exacerbates things (double digit CFR). Don’t be like the asshole I saw the other day in Walgreens coughing his lungs out on the pharmacist. Stay home if you’re sick, wash your hands, and know that if we slow this down now, the economy and life in general will return to normal that much sooner.

Really ?

Gun Enthusiasts are often Preppers. I'm not one, but I do feel it prudent to anticipate future needs.

I investigated XOFLUZA - (FEEL BETTER IN JUST OVER 2 DAYS WITH ONE-DOSE XOFLUZA.)

BUT you need to take it within one to two days of the onset.

So I asked my Pharmacist if she could get it. "Yes, we can have can it in a couple of days, but not on weekends" SWELL.

So I asked my PCP for an RX for ONE PILL. She said "No, we do not write RX proactively". GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS.

So if I'm coughing, on death's door, I need to call my PCP and LEAVE A MESSAGE - like usual. When she bothers to check her messages, maybe the script goes to the Pharmacist. Then the Pharmacist orders the Xofluza. Two days later, maybe, she has it.

Then I need to crawl to my car, and drive to the Pharmacy, coughing all the way. And too late for the Xofluza to help.

Would it not be far more practical just to write me a FN prescription when I asked for one, so I could have the Xofluza right on hand ? It doesn't make people high, for Sh*t's sake.

Maybe it should. The Government would never order Pot Shops closed.

 

[dubleuhb]

Meh, When I see the obituary's I'll be concerned. I can understand taking whatever precautions you see necessary but I'm not concerned with it .

This is where I'm at. I already keep away from people, usually make one short trip to the produce market and another to the grocery store once a week. I'm already a germaphobe because most people are scumbags. If I need to take a few more precautions so be it.

 

[Jmac00]

Our lovable RINO governor (and Trump hater) Charlie Baker, has suspended Schools for three weeks.

And closed Bars and Restaurants for a MONTH !!!

What a complete A-HOLE !

The economic repercussions will be extensive - and completely unecessary.

We do have a Dem State House and Senate. Don't they have the balls to over-ride this insanity ?

The CURE is far worse than the DISEASE !!

is he going to have a 30 day moratorium on paying your bills too. what happens to people living paycheck to paycheck

 

[ManrisFrack]

the media is a devious mistress. The media keeps telling everyone to not panic, but then throws virus numbers at the populace that makes them scared. Like this : YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, but don't panic

MY suggestion is to turn the news off, except for the weather. I know the weather comes on at about 13-15 minutes into the news cast, that all I watch

I read a WaPo article this weekend that was about the efficacy of different outbreak control methods like quarantine and social distancing. It had some simple simulations that illustrated the point well - good information. The last two paragraphs were essentially 'our models don't account for death and people will die from Corona.' No numbers or specific information, just throwing out the death idea for people's imaginations to run wild with. Really? They couldn't just stick to a valid and important point about controlling the spread of a highly infectious agent?

I usually hesitate to link WaPo but this seems like mostly good info if you're interested: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

In other news, I just saw that localities in Massachusetts are suspending both new carry licenses AND renewals. I'm very worried that the worst outcome of this virus is the ground we will cede to the government in their ability to trample individual rights without resistance.

 

[seezur]

Really ?

Gun Enthusiasts are often Preppers. I'm not one, but I do feel it prudent to anticipate future needs.

I investigated XOFLUZA - (FEEL BETTER IN JUST OVER 2 DAYS WITH ONE-DOSE XOFLUZA.)

BUT you need to take it within one to two days of the onset.

So I asked my Pharmacist if she could get it. "Yes, we can have can it in a couple of days, but not on weekends" SWELL.

So I asked my PCP for an RX for ONE PILL. She said "No, we do not write RX proactively". GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS.

So if I'm coughing, on death's door, I need to call my PCP and LEAVE A MESSAGE - like usual. When she bothers to check her messages, maybe the script goes to the Pharmacist. Then the Pharmacist orders the Xofluza. Two days later, maybe, she has it.

Then I need to crawl to my car, and drive to the Pharmacy, coughing all the way. And too late for the Xofluza to help.

Would it not be far more practical just to write me a FN prescription when I asked for one, so I could have the Xofluza right on hand ? It doesn't make people high, for Sh*t's sake.

Maybe it should. The Government would never order Pot Shops closed.

The dude who went into the pharmacy was with his seemingly healthy (no cough, normal complexion) wife and they were just shopping for random shit and pestering the pharmacist. It was bizarre to me that they had such disregard for everyone else. I get that we gotta take care of ourselves and our family but I think there’s a moral obligation to be strong, courageous men and not endanger an entire pharmacy to buy mucinex and some protein bars.

Idk if you’re talking about Xofluza for Coronavirus symptoms, but they are already running a bunch of clinical trials (started last week, conclude in April) using various anti virals, anti malarial and rheumatoid drugs that are cheap and easy to acquire. They would mainly be used to treat the more severe symptoms, like pneumonia.

I’m optimistic as one of the drugs, chloroquine, was used to treat the first patient in Washington and showed to change his clinical course from severe to stable in 24 hours. China has likewise been testing these drugs on a massive scale.

 

[CaseHardened]

is he going to have a 30 day moratorium on paying your bills too. what happens to people living paycheck to paycheck

Governor Baker pulled the same crap on Vaping Shops.

One morning the Vape Shops were open, that afternoon they were closed by Executive Order.

No warnings, no discussions.

Baker could not care less what happened to those business people.

Nor does he care what happens to anyone in the Hospitality or Service Industry.

THE DEEP STATE IS FUELING THIS

 

[CaseHardened]

The dude who went into the pharmacy was with his seemingly healthy (no cough, normal complexion) wife and they were just shopping for random shit and pestering the pharmacist. It was bizarre to me that they had such disregard for everyone else. I get that we gotta take care of ourselves and our family but I think there’s a moral obligation to be strong, courageous men and not endanger an entire pharmacy to buy mucinex and some protein bars.

Idk if you’re talking about Xofluza for Coronavirus symptoms, but they are already running a bunch of clinical trials (started last week, conclude in April) using various anti virals, anti malarial and rheumatoid drugs that are cheap and easy to acquire. They would mainly be used to treat the more severe symptoms, like pneumonia.

I’m optimistic as one of the drugs, chloroquine, was used to treat the first patient in Washington and showed to change his clinical course from severe to stable in 24 hours. China has likewise been testing these drugs on a massive scale.

Yes, progress will be made, and that is good.

But Xofluza is here and now - except the Government won't let you buy it when you really need it. Only after it is too late to help, and also you have left the house and put others at risk.

 

[CaseHardened]

I read a WaPo article this weekend that was about the efficacy of different outbreak control methods like quarantine and social distancing. It had some simple simulations that illustrated the point well - good information. The last two paragraphs were essentially 'our models don't account for death and people will die from Corona.' No numbers or specific information, just throwing out the death idea for people's imaginations to run wild with. Really? They couldn't just stick to a valid and important point about controlling the spread of a highly infectious agent?

I usually hesitate to link WaPo but this seems like mostly good info if you're interested: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

In other news, I just saw that localities in Massachusetts are suspending both new carry licenses AND renewals. I'm very worried that the worst outcome of this virus is the ground we will cede to the government in their ability to trample individual rights without resistance.

It's all for the children

 

[CaseHardened]

I'm going to get drunk (I mean more drunk), and then call my PCP with a Fake Cough.

Maybe then I'll have a script when and if I need it.

 

[spat]

That's possible.

But what if...this is actually a real virus and governments are just trying to control it instead of anything more nefarious? Isn't that a very real possibility?

It's a real virus, but to suggest that the motive of most of these politicians is anything other than acquisition of power is silly.

Cuomo would happily let half the people in the state die if he thought he could get some more power out of it.

 

[Chevusa]

It's a global conspiracy! A world government plan

Well it did come from China and nobody has been tougher on them than Trump. They would much prefer to have Biden or someone else in office that they can walk all over, like they have gotten used to doing for a very long time. Under Trump they are paying us billions and billions they never had to before.

 

[meketrefe]

The title says it all.

This is Complete Crap.

I must give the Dems credit - they have raised a generation or two of pitiful sheep, that can't see the Forest for the Trees.

Once again, nature is not our enemy. The LIBERALS are !!

One could think this if this happened in the USA and it was not spreading like it does.
But I dont think countries like Italy, Spain, Germany, etc... are doing this based on US politics and conspirscy theories, but only to contain the pandemic.
This virus is bad for babies and elderly and anyone dealing with other medical problems, so this is overreaction isnactually something it should be have been done sooner.

 

[S&W Fan]

Personally I Lay the blame for ALL of this bullshit squarely on the shoulders of the Chicoms. They started this shit and failed miserably at trying to contain it early on. Even after the US got wind of it and offered help ( first country to do so btw) they refused and publicly stated that the US was Fear mongering . Only after doctors there started getting the word out secretly on the internet about how bad it really was did those FUCKERS decide to admit that it was out of control.

 

[ManrisFrack]

Told my son last night that we would probably have to restrict his birthday to at home with no friends. After he recovered enough to speak, his first words were "I HATE China!"

That's one silver lining - China's true colors are being recognized by more people.

 

[BuffNiag]

No doubt the virus is real but the reaction of the MSM and liberal politicians is amplified about 10 times what is reasonable.

Look at the timing of the impeachment trial acquittal and when the virus started to pick up steam and you will see what’s happening.