Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
For now. My point is if this is a success how long will it be for other things and everyone to want one. The airlines were talking about it first so they may get this going as well.
Cuomo Announces Pilot Program Testing the Excelsior Pass (tech/app covid vaccination records)
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Hospital personnel better consider some VERY serious introspective thought sessions about this.
VERY serious..........
No motherfucker, you may NOT see my papers...but take a look at this.......
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
A person can live without all the things I listed...............and accepting everything else but when a health issue is involved...that's where the line is drawn...priorities...priorities
Toecutter
.308 Win
The YMCA is still around?
Yeah, haven't you heard the Indian, Cop Construction Worker and Sailor?
Toecutter
.308 Win
Some thing tells me you'd make the village people blush.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
99% can live with Covid but your ok with an infringement in its name?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Rights do not require you demonstrate a "need" before exercising them.
Suggesting than you have to demonstrate a "need" is infringing on a right.
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
I doubt you realize what this virus can, and can not, do.
This is NOT Ebola...far, far from it. If Ebola gets loose in this country, you have no conception of the deaths and havoc it will create. There is a vaccine, but are we getting it? It has orders of magnitude more evidence of efficacy than the bullshit being pushed by Pfizer and Moderna.
The only reason this virus was so virulent, and ONLY for a short time after it was purposefully released by the ChiComs, was because it was engineered to be so. Want the references? Just ask.
This is a coronavirus...mutation and eventually, amino acid variants, are what it does. This is why there are 4, repeat FOUR, common cold coronaviruses (Common Human Coronaviruses | CDC).
Every one is entitled to their opinion...but the CDS (COVID Derangement Syndrome) affecting this country is ludicrous.
But believing bullshit coming from Big Pharma, FauXi, DemonRats, or the media is unbecoming, to say the least.
Yes, I'm on a tear, as it were, about this.
I'm done with it personally and, particularly, scientifically.
I spent over 30 years pursuing scientific FACT, not rubbish and, by the way, @Jmac00 isn't following an agenda, he's following the facts.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
550 thousand deaths plus the ones sick and possibly fatal..is not 1% not living with it.....
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
"The only reason this virus was so virulent, and ONLY for a short time after it was purposefully released by the ChiComs, was because it was engineered to be so. Want the references? Just ask.
This is a coronavirus...mutation and eventually, amino acid variants, are what it does. This is why there are 4, repeat FOUR, common cold coronaviruses (Common Human Coronaviruses | CDC).
Every one is entitled to their opinion...but the CDS (COVID Derangement Syndrome) affecting this country is ludicrous. "
You need to contact the CDC/Governement and share this scary information. I see almost 600,000 deaths and it will surpass that. To compare it to the flu is not smart. But do as You wish.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Nice try
First, I never compared it to the flu, but, whatever - maybe that's how you make "rationale" arguments. SARS-CoV-2 is not any more, or less, deadly to certain cohorts, and this depends on the flu type (A, B, C or D) and the hemaglutinnin and neuraminidase mix (for example H1N1, H2N5, etc.)
I'm hoping you're not seriously buying into the BS that the flu has largely "disappeared" because of the presence of SARS-CoV-2? Because those 600,000 deaths are not all from SARS-CoV-2.
Because THAT is truly "not smart". There is no evidence for any virus anywhere where one virus can "cause" another virus to decrease in prevalence, virulence or infectiousness when they are both extant in the same population, and use the same general route of infection and cause nearly identical symptoms. In this case, a respiratory illness of differing severity depending on many factors.
Where exactly do you think the 4 coronaviruses that are causes of the "common cold" came from? Do some research - check the genetic lineage.
Cite some evidence...any evidence for what you are saying.
And FauXi doesn't count. It appears the Church of the New Covidian is more widespred than I realized.
And I will do as I wish, and so should you - but stop proffering advice and statements about things where you have no evidence or expertise.
"You need to contact the CDC/Governement and share this scary information." My, oh my, no evidence offered, but snarky remarks are -
. Jesus, Mary and Joseph - infantile.
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Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
It's just 2 weeks... it's just a mask...
To all of those that can't see the forest for the trees, you have a much bigger problem than worrying about covid.
To all of those that can't see the forest for the trees, you have a much bigger problem than worrying about covid.
Why the fuck should anyone at this point believe anything from Cuomo and his Administration pertaining to Covid? The fucker lied about nursing home deaths! What else has he lied about to push this State into a Hellish nightmare?
Chicken Shoot
.45 acp
AWESOME!!! So ...... no longer are democraps, muslims, LGBTQ+whatever allowed in MY business!! Thank GOD this is finally allowed again. I thought it was called discrimination. Looking like we're on the right track again!! WOO HOO!! No more black, brown, orange, white, yellow, purple, blue, red, pink or green people allowed in!!! I couldn't be happier to hear this!!
Chicken Shoot
.45 acp
Can someone tell me the actual ingredients of this "vaccine" (without laughing) and also tell me why it is that all of the homeless people in this country with no masks, no washing their hands and no social distancing, dumpster diving in puke, spit and shit haven't all died from this DEADLY virus?? Anyone? I'll wait for an answer. Also, I'd like to know how noone dropped dead in walmart since they were allowed to have 1500 people at a time in the store but a religious gathering on a Sunday in a church was too dangerous and banned? No weddings, funerals, graduation parties nor even holidays could be celebrated but fucking walmart and other HUGE democrap DONATORS were allowed to remain open. Yep ... in just 37 days biden has cured this oh so real virus. Defeated it with ....... uh ....... er ........ ummm ...... you know, the thing!! HOAX!!!!! And before ANYONE gives me shit for showing the truth here, my family was on EVERY national news outlet over the death of family members caused by princess nipples and his forcing of people with the flu into the nursing homes!! Family members DIED ALONE with no family allowed to visit!!! So ..... here we go with the well known and widely used nazi phrase that killed millions of people and brought us here today ..... "It's for your safety". Remember that because you already forgot how it was used in the past.
I've got not answer for ya except you were lied to!
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
you understand that at least 40% to 50% of those deaths are directly related to Governors putting covid positive patients in with the most susceptible, another 25% are for 'other causes', like getting hit by a bus, dying, then testing positive for covid, therefore the bus victim died of covid, seriously, this is how fucked up this scam is. Not many ACTUALLY died of the virus alone.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
dead is Dead.....all deaths can be boiled down to a reason...stupid reason or not. If there was no covd, this discussion would of never happened.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
and lets not forget the biggest scam of all time:
wear a mask across a parking lot ~~~~ go into a restaurant/bar ~~~~ get seated ~~~~~ now you are in a covid free zone, you may remove your mask
Have to go to the bathroom, put your mask on, when you come back to your table, you can remove your mask. Need to go to the bar, put your mask on, get your drink, when your return to your table, once again you have entered the covid free zone, you may remove your mask.
this is literally the very definition of social engineering and control.
wear a mask across a parking lot ~~~~ go into a restaurant/bar ~~~~ get seated ~~~~~ now you are in a covid free zone, you may remove your mask
Have to go to the bathroom, put your mask on, when you come back to your table, you can remove your mask. Need to go to the bar, put your mask on, get your drink, when your return to your table, once again you have entered the covid free zone, you may remove your mask.
this is literally the very definition of social engineering and control.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
seriously, 550K deaths, more than half are related to Cancer, heat attack, liver failure, kidney failure ect. ect. but if anyone of these people are tested for covid and the results (will) come back positive, and they pass away, it wasn't the cancer, heart, liver or kidney that killed them, IT WAS COVID. this is beyond stupid, whats worse is people believe this bullshit
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Yes I think Benjamin Franklin warned us about something like this.
You've provided not one scintilla of evidence in support of anything you've said.
People asked you to do so...
Instead you've resorted to insults and ad hominem attacks.
SARS-CoV-2 and the disease it causes have divided this once great country even more than it was.
Now this "vaccine" is dividing it further while taking more chips out of the little freedom/liberty left.
You are part the "mob" - a member of The Church of New Covidian. Remember to say your prayers while bowing down towards Bethesda, MD where NIAID and St. Anthony FauXi of the Many Masks eagerly await them.
Thus, you just keep doing what you want, and I'll do the same.
The latter includes putting you on my "IGNORE" list...I'm too old to waste anymore time on ill informed cult like BS.
Bye.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Yes and the guy riding his motorcycle that crashed and died had Covid and was listed as a Covid death make sense? I know a lady who’s mother was in hospice and died a few days later they just happened to test her for Covid and it came back positive. She was 93 and had no signs of Covid but that’s what the cause of death is. These examples would never be tested for the seasonal flu. Funny how if you have the flu you just go to the DRs. My son had diarrhea and they wouldn’t see him without getting a Covid test. It was negative then it was imperative that he be seen ASAP. Yes it makes no sense.
Do you think with the flu we test all of these people? How many asymptotic people are there walking around with the flu that never get tested or seek treatment? The flu has a season apparently Covid doesn’t? Also is this how the seasonal flu started out?
I don’t think it’s wise to dismiss the comparison either. I don’t think we have enough facts either way. I don’t think we will ever have those facts either way.
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Look up the info please.
Flu kills 400k InFLU SEASON
Covid has been counted from day one, covid has been attributed to killing even when the person had covid (maybe, the test is not accurate) yet was stage 4 cancer hanging by a thread, car wrecks, etc..
Ask why/where the flu went last year, no one died from flu, normal average IS 400k in season.
Why no red bags for the masks I see all over on the ground?
If I eat, chew gum, the covid can't get me.
If I go home from the bar by 10:00pm covid can't get me.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Funny they give a figure on false negative test results for Covid but refuse to put a number on false positives and just say it’s all procedural or contamination.
www.health.harvard.edu
Which test is best for COVID-19? - Harvard Health
So much about testing for COVID-19 is confusing—from the types and number of tests available to woefully incomplete information about testing and the changing options. Understanding the curre...
www.health.harvard.edu