Did Those Who Elected Trump Just Get Ass-Raped?
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The next one is the important one, the libs and rinos will fight this, blood in the streets fight. I'm not as convinced now that it will go our way, we'll see...
True, but a Hillary win would have been completely devastating.
Oh, absolutely, all I'm getting at is the country voted for Trump for more than SCOTUS picks, this budget is just a bad sign I'm afraid of things to come.
How can this be?
I just heard Trump saying this 1 trillion dollar budget is one of the best deals ever made.
No money for wall
Funds for Planned Parenthood
Funds the EPA
Funds Obamacare
Funds sanctuary cities
Trump just said it was a HUGE win for Americans.
The democrats are all over bragging about their huge win.
They ALL suck.
Just to be clear, I said this months before his election, and I was trashed and trolled.
Now, I'm not giving up yet, but maybe think a little next time before you dismiss the Libertarian stance? Don't pull the "no chance" card?
"But we won the SUCTOUS"
If it pans out in any manner like this elections has, I fully expect a net gain of exactly nothing.
Now, I'm not giving up yet, but maybe think a little next time before you dismiss the Libertarian stance? Don't pull the "no chance" card?
"But we won the SUCTOUS"
If it pans out in any manner like this elections has, I fully expect a net gain of exactly nothing.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nah. This was still a better choice. Voting for the libertarian would have put your girl in the White House.Just to be clear, I said this months before his election, and I was trashed and trolled.
Now, I'm not giving up yet, but maybe think a little next time before you dismiss the Libertarian stance? Don't pull the "no chance" card?
"But we won the SUCTOUS"
If it pans out in any manner like this elections has, I fully expect a net gain of exactly nothing.
spat
.950 JDJ
With SCOTUS a net gain of nothing is immensely better than what we would have seen from Hillary.Just to be clear, I said this months before his election, and I was trashed and trolled.
Now, I'm not giving up yet, but maybe think a little next time before you dismiss the Libertarian stance? Don't pull the "no chance" card?
"But we won the SUCTOUS"
If it pans out in any manner like this elections has, I fully expect a net gain of exactly nothing.
No matter how much we get screwed out of Trump's promises, we are still worlds better than the alternative.
spat
.950 JDJ
We're in NY, our voted don't count in federal elections.
*assuming this fly by night pick isn't the same bought and paid for crap.
That has yet to be seen.
Of any member in the Senate and House, Rand Paul usually speaks the truth, IMHO. Here is his take on the present subject -
Exclusive - Rand Paul on Omnibus Spending Bill: 'President Hillary Clinton Would Have Been Proud of This Bill' - Breitbart
Exclusive - Rand Paul on Omnibus Spending Bill: 'President Hillary Clinton Would Have Been Proud of This Bill' - Breitbart
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
These days I'm all about managing expectations. My hope was that Trump would get some good SCOTUS picks (one so far and hopefully a couple more). That was number one for me. Border security was a close second and I believe that they got more funding for border agents (probably cheaper and more effective than a wall anyway). So I count those and mostly successes. After that maybe some relief at the state level for gun rights (hasn't happened yet) and a crackdown on all the progressive snowflake nonsense (it's still a free country and only a cultural shift can correct that). I guess I have a lukewarm opinion of Mr. Trump so far in his first 100 days.
And for what it's worth the vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans are wholly and completely useless and I dare say enemies of the state. There are still a few patriots in both parties but their numbers are dwindling. And the New World Order marches on.
And for what it's worth the vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans are wholly and completely useless and I dare say enemies of the state. There are still a few patriots in both parties but their numbers are dwindling. And the New World Order marches on.
John Stark
.44 mag
Here's another for your consideration my friend:
Tomgram: Nomi Prins, All in the Family Trump | TomDispatch
Be sure to read the links, and search for more stories about the expansion of business interests belonging to Ivanka & Jared like this one:
Report: Jared Kushner Didn’t Disclose $1 Billion in Loans, Investment Ties to Goldman Sachs and George Soros
Jared Kushner is a Goldman Sachs & Soros lackey, but both he and his wife are serving as advisors to the most powerful official in the country with the highest level of security clearances. But Jared "forgot" to disclose a billion $ in ties to Goldman's & Soros to get those clearances? Oopsie!
Weren't we told that we couldn't vote for some of the other R candidate because of their ties to Goldman Sachs (cough, Cruz, Cough)?
Do some digging on the Kushner family. It ain't pretty.
There is a lot more out there on Trump that was known long before he was ever elected.
Trump is doing what all politicians do in the DC swamp: monetizing his political position and power for his own dynasty, in the same manner as the Kennedy clan, the Clintons, the Bushes, and so on.
When he promised to drain the $wamp, everyone assumed he meant to do so to get rid of the gators by $tarving them to death.
Unfortunately, its looking like he's merely diverting the $wamp water to his own clan's advantage, and going along with the rest of the gators to do so while ignoring the big game hunters that put him in office with the expectation that he meant what he said as an "outsider."
I hope these various articles are wrong, but would we be surprised if they aren't? Trump is a NY City liberal, with oversees business ventures in some of the worst hell holes on the planet, and long ties to very shady people (including the Clintons and Schumer).
In the run up to the defeat of Shillary, I basically kept my mouth shut about Trump because I do in fact support many of the policies that the People who voted for him support. I am not against the Trump voters, support most of their conservative positions, and certainly did not want Clinton to get the office.
Trump has a very long and very checkered history. He's wheeled and dealed on casinos and hotels and other business interests all over the country and the world, in some of the worst political hell holes (including Islamic totalitarian nations). He's never been an "outsider" in any way, shape, or form.
I'm certainly glad Shillary got her comeuppence, but Americans were fooling themselves in thinking that Trump is the solution to the myriad of moral, fiscal, and security problems that face the nation.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What if people in Michigan and Pennsylvania threw their vote away to the libertarian? That's what I was getting at. Had there been Darths in all those states, we'd have a 9th Circuit judge in Gorsuch's place.
spat
.950 JDJ
If you live in a swing state, or a potential swing state, by all means vote strategically. For the rest of us symbolically is best.
Read the Breitbart article about Kushner and have noted with concern, from the inauguration onward, the growing number of "Goldman Sachs types" in Trump's retinue.
It appears to me that "The Swamp" will not be drained, but perhaps get better infrastructure.
IMHO, "we" need to be more intolerant to have any effect.
Interesting that Taleb finds "It suffices for an intransigent minority –a certain type of intransigent minorities –to reach a minutely small level, say three or four percent of the total population, for the entire population to have to submit to their preferences."
Posted his article elsewhere, but here is a link for anyone interested:
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
How do you know you are in a swing state? Trump won states that were without a doubt going to Hillary according to the media.
Never throw your vote away. Symbolism mean absolutely nothing to either party.
Power is what they want and respect, and what "we" possess so little of these days.
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
This is why I changed my registration to Dem. It gives me one more chance (at the primary) to vote against the likes of Cuomo.
spat
.950 JDJ
If Trump had won NY, he sure as he'll would have won enough other states first that he wouldn't have needed NY.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Paul Ryan did all in his power to defeat Trump ... I would hazard a guess that 25 % of so called Republicans in Washington would have rather seen Hillary win .... Just a big old boys club.. Trump cannot do this by himself . Build the wall... How much influence does the drug industry south of the border have in Washington ...? A lot of people in this country making lots of money off the drug trade ... Very rich people .. Powerful people . ... To say Trump is boning us is wrong... The uniparty in Washington is ... These folks don't care who is in power ....Backroom deals still being spun .. Sons and daughters on this lobbying committee or that one .. Look where Hillary's spawn ends up .$600,000 year jobs for no experience ... Was it because some deal was made years ago on a bill that she voted on ... The rest of the crew in Washington doing the same thing ... I vote on this bill that someone paid me to vote for .. Get your friend to hire my son for a few hundred thousand a year position .. .. This is what we are up against folks .
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So symbolic votes should only apply to NY and California and a few others?
When the GOP sees that 10 percent went to that crazy wacko Johnson in those few states, do you think they will say, "Oh crap! We need to change our policies!"
spat
.950 JDJ
If they see 10% in those states, both parties will realize what it takes to get those 10% in the others.
I don't care if the Republicans or the Democrats or both try to court those voters, as long as the do.
Libertarians aren't shoeins for Republicans, how would you like to see some Dems try to out libertarian the Republican they are running against ?
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
The trump budget isn't perfection by any means. Blame some republicans for some of it but wait. There are three years to show results.
And according to the press conference, there is funding to replace fence with steel walls.
There is more for defense
And according to the press conference, there is funding to replace fence with steel walls.
There is more for defense
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I usually agree with damned near everything you say. Not this. If you really think that Hillary would try to get the 10 percent libertarian vote in NY, well.....
The same thing goes if Bush or Kasich was the nominee. No way they are going to change their agenda to try to get 10 percent of the NY vote.
They don't care.
spat
.950 JDJ
They may not change their core platform, but it will influence what they decide to bring up.
You're not going to get a pro gun Dem at the national level, but you might scare the crap out of the normal ones so that they leave that issue alone for instance.
Most of what we suffer from in NY was from Cuomo trying to pander to the left to set himself up for a presidential bid. If his advisors had warned him that the issue was poison, and that he isn't going to gain any votes from the left, but he will drive votes to his opponent instead, do you still think we would have ended up with SAFE ?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I think he got advised that we gun owners are a minority.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
