Don’t fall for Dems’ self-serving baloney about safeguarding elections: Vote ‘No’ on NY’s Props. 1, 3 and 4

[MothMan]

Voting day is coming boys…

Don’t fall for Dems’ self-serving baloney about safeguarding elections: Vote ‘No’ on NY’s Props. 1, 3 and 4

New Yorkers should see through the “progressives’” charade and resoundingly vote “No” on Propositions 1, 3 and 4, which would dramatically change how elections take place — all to the advantage of …

nypost.com

 

[Saltwater60]

I plan on it.

 

[Tinman]

Me too

 

[meketrefe]

What about Libtards not making any movies with any sort of weapons?
Stick to woke agenda themes like fudge packing.

 

[libertysnake]

Voting day is coming boys…

Don’t fall for Dems’ self-serving baloney about safeguarding elections: Vote ‘No’ on NY’s Props. 1, 3 and 4

New Yorkers should see through the “progressives’” charade and resoundingly vote “No” on Propositions 1, 3 and 4, which would dramatically change how elections take place — all to the advantage of …

nypost.com

I'll be there.

 

[SonOfSun]

I'll be voting no on 1 and 4.

I have no issue with prop 3, same day registration. I don't believe your rights should be tied to a time limit or that you should have to announce you intend to use them ahead of time. Either you have the right or you don't. Period.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I'll be voting no on 1 and 4.

I have no issue with prop 3, same day registration. I don't believe your rights should be tied to a time limit or that you should have to announce you intend to use them ahead of time. Either you have the right or you don't. Period.

Already have all the numbers memorized.

If No. 3 is as important as you say it is, register well in advance. Anyone with even mild intelligence knows why there are those who want same day registration.

 

[SonOfSun]

If No. 3 is as important as you say it is, register well in advance.

That's where we disagree. I don't think there should be a waiting period for rights.. This extends to BS like waiting times on firearms as well. In my view you either have the right or don't. Waiting periods and time requirements are BS.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

That's where we disagree. I don't think there should be a waiting period for rights.. This extends to BS like waiting times on firearms as well. In my view you either have the right or don't. Waiting periods and time requirements are BS.

Unless your trying to sneak in votes that are illegitimate.

 

[prambo]

Wasn't going to vote in this election, but this is a good enough reason.

Also, someone finally got the cojones to run against the little shitweasel who has been mayor for years. This clown went full Nazi when COVID showed up, making proclamations and acting like a dictator. Everyone I've ever talked to in the village used the same phrase to describe them - "fucking asshole".

The guy running against him had public displays in front of his business attacking Cuomo - that's enough to get my vote.

 

[SonOfSun]

Unless your trying to sneak in votes that are illegitimate.

How is your right to vote illegitimate because you happened to decide to use it on any given day, including election day? I've purchased a gun the same day I decided I wanted it in the past. I didn't need to declare my intent to use my rights. I just did it... you know.... because I have the right to do so... that's what a right is.

If your logic is the case, then want a gun... No problem you just need to wait this 99 year waiting period... then you can exercise your right. Gotta wait the time to use your "rights", should have registered when you were 8 to cut down that waiting period. See you in a century! How about the right to self defense? Since you're all in on limiting rights to arbitrary times we should probably should need to wait 72 hours on that one too, I mean we wouldn't want any mistakes to be made... right?

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

How is your right to vote illegitimate because you happened to decide to use it on any given day, including election day? I've purchased a gun the same day I decided I wanted it in the past. I didn't need to declare my intent to use my rights. I just did it... you know.... because I have the right to do so... that's what a right is.

If your logic is the case, then want a gun... No problem you just need to wait this 99 year waiting period... then you can exercise your right. Gotta wait the time to use your "rights", should have registered when you were 8 to cut down that waiting period. See you in a century! How about the right to self defense? Since you're all in on limiting rights to arbitrary times we should probably should need to wait 72 hours on that one too, I mean we wouldn't want any mistakes to be made... right?

I'm not going to repeat what I already stated.

 

[SonOfSun]

I'm not going to repeat what I already stated.

So you're sticking with the only reason someone would decide to use their rights on short notice is that because they are trying to do something illegitimate.

Not a very compelling argument.

 

[MothMan]

#2 proposes to add the right of each person to clean air and water and a healthful environment to the Bill of Rights in Article I of the New York Constitution.

Sounds nice but I’m a no here also.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

So you're sticking with the only reason someone would decide to use their rights on short notice is that because they are trying to do something illegitimate.

Not a very compelling argument.

Ockham's principle

 

[masterswimmer]

If 'they' want it, I vote no. Simple as that. The problem is, we turned out in force in November, 2020. BFD (Big Fucking Deal for those that need it spelled out), we know how that ended. They don't need the votes. They are just playing to their audience and making them think they have a say.

 

[GOPerfect]

If 'they' want it, I vote no. Simple as that. The problem is, we turned out in force in November, 2020. BFD (Big Fucking Deal for those that need it spelled out), we know how that ended. They don't need the votes. They are just playing to their audience and making them think they have a say.

Same with me. Anything that anyone on the Left says is a good thing, is a bad thing for me.

 

[Acer-m14]

No ..

must have id
must be a us citizen
must register .. you know the deadline date .
must show up .. you know the date on when to vote .. to bad your on vacation ..
Military .. mail in on request .. only

I'll be voting no on 1 and 4.

I have no issue with prop 3, same day registration. I don't believe your rights should be tied to a time limit or that you should have to announce you intend to use them ahead of time. Either you have the right or you don't. Period.

Voting Right has no Shall not Infringe at the end ..

some extras for voting ..
Must Fill out a 4473
Must get finger printed ..
Must wait a year or more for PP office to get off there ass

 

[spat]

So you're sticking with the only reason someone would decide to use their rights on short notice is that because they are trying to do something illegitimate.

Not a very compelling argument.

No, it's not the only reason they might want to register.

But it *is* the reason they want people to be able to do that.

It complicates the verification process such that it's impossible to detect fraud.


That's the leftists bait and switch.

"we don't need to be able to detect fraud because there isn't any, and we know there isn't any because we don't detect it."

I like to throw that back at them with police brutality. "I guess it doesn't happen then because there are very few conviction right"

 

[pshift]

The mere fact that there are any propositions on the ballot at all is troubling. Someone has already made up their mind. VOTE HOW YOU FEEL. Not that it will matter anyways...

proposition
[ˌpräpəˈziSH(ə)n]
NOUN
a statement or assertion that expresses a judgment or opinion.
"the proposition that all men are created equal"
synonyms:
theory · hypothesis · thesis · argument · premise · postulation · theorem · concept · idea · statement
a suggested program or plan of action, especially in a business context.
"a detailed investment proposition"
synonyms:
proposal · scheme · plan · project · program · manifesto · motion · bid · presentation · submission · suggestion · recommendation · approach
a project, task, or idea considered in terms of its likely success or difficulty, especially in a commercial context.

 

[BerettaGuy]

That's where we disagree. I don't think there should be a waiting period for rights.. This extends to BS like waiting times on firearms as well. In my view you either have the right or don't. Waiting periods and time requirements are BS.

We already have same-day registration and voting and have had it forever. The whole NY Registration process needs reform. No ID is required. All you have to do is fill out a form and sign a name that "affirms" that all the info is true. Now the Libs can go on CNN with a straight face and proclaim that a vote with a signed registration is a valid vote. You will never hear them talk about "REGISTRATION". If you can't see that None of this bull crap is about protecting the right of voting but creating untraceable avenues for fraudulent counting and manipulation then you are falling into their trap. It is part and parcel of "progressivism" I mean who can be against progress right? Progressivism has nothing to do with progress. These have nothing to do with protecting voting rights. Same-day registration votes are and have always been counted last. (so we are told)

 

[MilesTeg]

I just looked up prop# 2, that's garbage as well. Debating on yes for pro# 5. I probably will vote yes for # 5.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I'll be voting no on 1 and 4.

I have no issue with prop 3, same day registration. I don't believe your rights should be tied to a time limit or that you should have to announce you intend to use them ahead of time. Either you have the right or you don't. Period.

Do you know the difference between a Democracy and a Republic? Do you understand that the rule of law is the glue that holds us together? With Laissez-faire voting like we had ins several states you end up with mob rule like third world counties. Using your logic of "rights" let's form a posse and start voting on lynching "criminals". Either you have the right or you don't. Right? Who needs laws? The majority voted therefore your conscience is clean.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I just looked up prop# 2, that's garbage as well. Debating on yes for pro# 5. I probably will vote yes for # 5.

Where did you find it. They sure are being quiet about all of these. It seems to me like the DemocRATS don't want too much attention drawn to these props betting on the emotions of the titles.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I found the props
Prop 1
Freeze the number of state senators at the current number of 63. Currently, under the state constitution, the number of senators was originally set at 50 and thereafter increased over time to 63.

A backdoor way to FREEZE the numbers. Senate should be reduced as the population decreases.
Also in the prop:
Require that state assembly and senate district lines be based on the total population of the state, and require the state to count all residents, including non-citizens and Native Americans if the federal census fails to include them.
Provide for incarcerated people to be counted at their place of last residence, instead of at their place of incarceration, for the purpose of redistricting. This practice is already established by state statute for Senate and Assembly districts.
How do you prove a negative? ( if the federal census fails to include them.)

Prop 2
Right to Clean Air, Clean Water, and a Healthful Environment
Give me a break! Simply opening the door to California type laws.
Prop 3
The whole purpose is [; which registration shall be completed at least ten days before each election] removal from existing law.
Prop 4
Establish permanent mail-in voting. Totally unnecessary. But it will keep the dems in power forever.
Prop 5
Increasing the Jurisdiction of the New York City Civil Court
NY City is losing population. Time to decrease the number of Civil courts

I am a no on all 5 props.

 

[MilesTeg]

Where did you find it. They sure are being quiet about all of these. It seems to me like the DemocRATS don't want too much attention drawn to these props betting on the emotions of the titles.

I went to the county board of elections and then to my township for a sample ballot. I will print them off and talk it over with the wife tonight.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I found the props
Prop 1
Freeze the number of state senators at the current number of 63. Currently, under the state constitution, the number of senators was originally set at 50 and thereafter increased over time to 63.

A backdoor way to FREEZE the numbers. Senate should be reduced as the population decreases.
Also in the prop:
Require that state assembly and senate district lines be based on the total population of the state, and require the state to count all residents, including non-citizens and Native Americans if the federal census fails to include them.
Provide for incarcerated people to be counted at their place of last residence, instead of at their place of incarceration, for the purpose of redistricting. This practice is already established by state statute for Senate and Assembly districts.
How do you prove a negative? ( if the federal census fails to include them.)

Prop 2
Right to Clean Air, Clean Water, and a Healthful Environment
Give me a break! Simply opening the door to California type laws.
Prop 3
The whole purpose is [; which registration shall be completed at least ten days before each election] removal from existing law.
Prop 4
Establish permanent mail-in voting. Totally unnecessary. But it will keep the dems in power forever.
Prop 5
Increasing the Jurisdiction of the New York City Civil Court
NY City is losing population. Time to decrease the number of Civil courts

I am a no on all 5 props.

There should be a fixed number of state senators per COUNTY (1 each is fine), not senate districts. Assembly districts should lie entirely within their COUNTY, and be based on total state (legal) population with ### of (legal) residents per assemblyman. No more gerrymandering.

I'm a hard no on ALL NYS ballot measures due to the stupid process to put something on the ballot.

 

[MilesTeg]

I found the props
Prop 1
Freeze the number of state senators at the current number of 63. Currently, under the state constitution, the number of senators was originally set at 50 and thereafter increased over time to 63.

A backdoor way to FREEZE the numbers. Senate should be reduced as the population decreases.
Also in the prop:
Require that state assembly and senate district lines be based on the total population of the state, and require the state to count all residents, including non-citizens and Native Americans if the federal census fails to include them.
Provide for incarcerated people to be counted at their place of last residence, instead of at their place of incarceration, for the purpose of redistricting. This practice is already established by state statute for Senate and Assembly districts.
How do you prove a negative? ( if the federal census fails to include them.)

Prop 2
Right to Clean Air, Clean Water, and a Healthful Environment
Give me a break! Simply opening the door to California type laws.
Prop 3
The whole purpose is [; which registration shall be completed at least ten days before each election] removal from existing law.
Prop 4
Establish permanent mail-in voting. Totally unnecessary. But it will keep the dems in power forever.
Prop 5
Increasing the Jurisdiction of the New York City Civil Court
NY City is losing population. Time to decrease the number of Civil courts

I am a no on all 5 props.

Valid point on #5 that's why I posted my thoughts here. Probably voting no for all 5 now. Thanks.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I went to the county board of elections and then to my township for a sample ballot. I will print them off and talk it over with the wife tonight.

2021 Statewide Ballot Proposals | New York State Board of Elections

2021 Statewide Ballot Proposals

www.elections.ny.gov

 

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