Dry Firing Practice- Boring!!

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I have to say I bought the 365 dry fire mag and I am not pleased with it at all. I was really excited to get it and use it. The reason I am disappointed is the trigger pull weight with it is so light and I would say it’s less than half the weight of my guns pull weight. Some are adjustable and you can get heavier springs but this doesn’t not appear to have that option. I was able to adjust the pull length to be similar to my gun. I would also say the first trigger pull is the same as the reset length as well. I emailed them to return it and I never heard back from them. I can’t recommend them as a company or their company.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I have to say I bought the 365 dry fire mag and I am not pleased with it at all. I was really excited to get it and use it. The reason I am disappointed is the trigger pull weight with it is so light and I would say it’s less than half the weight of my guns pull weight. Some are adjustable and you can get heavier springs but this doesn’t not appear to have that option. I was able to adjust the pull length to be similar to my gun. I would also say the first trigger pull is the same as the reset length as well. I emailed them to return it and I never heard back from them. I can’t recommend them as a company or their company.
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Could be delayed response due to holidays? That's almost middle of Jan so shouldn't be the case. Check your spam folder? I e-mailed them in Feb 2018 (on a Saturday) when I was ordering the M&P mag and they replied 2 days later (Monday). sales @ dryfiremag dot com

I was thinking of getting the 365 mag but spent so much on the Quest 3 VR + ACE setup (so far I have over 3,000 rounds in that, very cool system).
 
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I use the LASR system with inserts. I also use it to start the boresight on guns I install Optics on. Great for drills. After my workout all tired and adrenalized I do drills. I can use it for my pistols and rifles. When it’s -45 sure is nice. It is also a nice crawl, walk, run phase for my teaching. Drills, malfunction practice, for be tuning fundamentals, improving accuracy, bridging weather and range availability, and having privacy are all benefits of it. Me be has paid for itself many times over.
 
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I try but get so bored doing 10 minutes.
I watched a video about using a blowback airsoft Glock 19 so it feels the same as my carry gun.
I’d be shoot in my basement.

What’s your thoughts on this?
Anyone do this?
Anyone have a model they can recommend?
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This is my "dry" training. I do this with an airsoft glock 17 now as I eventually killed my Glock 19 that I was using for about 10 years. I also have an AR rifle so I can practice transitions, mag changes, shooting and moving, etc... i train in my basement in the winter, and in my yard in the mild weather. The GBB guns dont work right in the cold do to how it effects the gas. The recoil is NIT the same, but its enough that you have to reacquire your sight picture.

My Airsoft glock is an UMAREX glock 17(best there is in my opinion). It fits my holsters (99%). I dont do mag drops inside as the concrete floor will damage them, but i can in the yard.
 
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MikeyCNY said:
Could be delayed response due to holidays? That's almost middle of Jan so shouldn't be the case. Check your spam folder? I e-mailed them in Feb 2018 (on a Saturday) when I was ordering the M&P mag and they replied 2 days later (Monday). sales @ dryfiremag dot com

I was thinking of getting the 365 mag but spent so much on the Quest 3 VR + ACE setup (so far I have over 3,000 rounds in that, very cool system).
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I sent them the email prior to Christmas. It’s not the end of the world to me so I won’t make a huge deal about it. If you want to try the 365 mag let me know but I don’t see much of a point in building muscle memory up on a trigger that’s half the weight because I’ll get used to the pull at that weight. I had a pocket pistol with a long heavy pull and every so often I’d pull the trigger and it wouldn’t go bang. The lack of bang was because I didn’t pull it back far enough. The trigger pull was way longer than my normal carry pistol and a lot heavier as well. That’s the only gun I’ve ever sold so I don’t want to train myself to do the same on this gun. I have the standard dry fire mag and not the smart one.
 
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dsdmmat said:
I have a laser shooting gallery. This target system can be set up to light up the targets in random order to keep you on your toes.

Live fire is the best though sometimes I get bored with that too. View attachment 250458
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Yep, live fire gets boring too.
Having a range in my yard, I get a lot of friends who want to shoot.....almost daily during nice weather.
I used to be very into this. The last few years I just let them shoot sometimes.
Now that even 9mm ammo is so expensive, I refrain from shooting quite often.
Unfortunately most of my friends are the type that like to just stand and fire from 7-25 yards, straight at the target.....no drills.
If they want to play shooting games or do some drills, I'm in.
 
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Criticalt said:
Yep, live fire gets boring too.
Having a range in my yard, I get a lot of friends who want to shoot.....almost daily during nice weather.
I used to be very into this. The last few years I just let them shoot sometimes.
Now that even 9mm ammo is so expensive, I refrain from shooting quite often.
Unfortunately most of my friends are the type that like to just stand and fire from 7-25 yards, straight at the target.....no drills.
If they want to play shooting games or do some drills, I'm in.
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I find static shooting "boring", unless im going for precision behind a rifle. I prefer shooting and moving, timed drills etc...

I use airsoft to practice drills for (basically) free. And also to get some reps in when i dont have time to do live fire.
 
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Celt said:
I find static shooting "boring", unless im going for precision behind a rifle. I prefer shooting and moving, timed drills etc...

I use airsoft to practice drills for (basically) free. And also to get some reps in when i dont have time to do live fire.
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I think this is the route I will go. I have a big enough garage that I now have cleaned out I can set up targets and cover to shoot and move from. Nothing breakable in there either. I can hang some steel from the rafters at different heights too.
 
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i struggled with trying to find a dry fire system that would work for me and I didn't find much. I did settle on using dry fire for specific drills only, and it has actually worked out. no need for any special tools. But you need to back up dry fire with actual shooting as well. one doesn't replace the other, but there are uses for each.

my resolution this year was to shoot better (and more) so i've standardized around one platform with red dot optic. My practice is always the following

Dry fire - blue tape drill. Really good drill for red dot target acquisition. I will practice from low ready to on target, then practice from holster to on target, both with and without tape. I do these for about 10 minutes a day

Then at the range i try to get there once a week. I shoot 50 rounds static, slow fire, at a regular target. Focusing on trigger pull only
Then 50 rounds from low ready to on target and fire a round, then 2
Then 50 rounds from draw to on target and 2 center mass, one head
then with the last 50 of the day, I load 2 rds in each of 2 mags. I practice 2 rounds center mass, then reload and 2 rounds head.

My goal for the entire session is zero unaccounted for rounds - nothing that would have missed my target and hit something behind it.

After a couple weeks I'm already seeing huge improvements in my shooting, and its alot more fun than just shooting at the center of a piece of paper. I'm going to start working dummy rounds into my mags at some point o practice malfunctions too. All just to make me better at self defense shooting.

I will now end my long post of uninvited advice.. Thanks for listening. :)
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I think this is the route I will go. I have a big enough garage that I now have cleaned out I can set up targets and cover to shoot and move from. Nothing breakable in there either. I can hang some steel from the rafters at different heights too.
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Drawing from concealment and getting on target is huge. Using my airsoft to practice this led to sub second first round hits from concealment.
 
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Celt said:
My kids have this VR headset and I recently saw this. I might have to give it a try
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We've got several Quest 2 headsets in the house (wife and I each have one...Walkabout Mini Golf and Golf+ are awesome).

This application is a bit expensive ($199 for "gun" controller and $168/year for full use). However, the controller does have a trigger with a wall & break as well as weight. I can understand that the company needs ongoing revenue to keep servers on and updates coming. For the cost of two weekend courses (minus ammo), I may give it a shot.

 
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Anybody tried this?
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I just started using it, posted about it above in this thread and also here: best laser dry fire system?

Very expensive to get into.. but so far I've "fired" over 4,000 virtual rounds and able to get in reps every night. App is a little glitchy lately, I think they had a ton of people join since the holidays. I have limited space in the house so I've sticking to the more stationary drills (you can move/teleport with the controller but it's awkward). When spring arrives and I can go in the backward with actually movement... should be fun!

There are all sorts of drills - Shoot/No-Shoot type, where there are 3 doors with cardboard targets behind them. The doors open and one of them has a handgun or rifle - you have 2 seconds to identify and get 2+ center shots to advance, then the time goes down. I've made it to level 24 which is around 0.8 seconds from open to close - at that speed I'm mainly point shooting. Bill Drills, Mozambique, even the Collateral/Briefcase drill which is so fun.

I've also been playing other VR games, but I mainly got it for AceXR. (I got the Quest 3 for better quality, 3s is newer, almost half the price with lower quality display but still usable from what I've read)
 
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MikeyCNY said:
I just started using it, posted about it above in this thread and also here: best laser dry fire system?

Very expensive to get into.. but so far I've "fired" over 4,000 virtual rounds and able to get in reps every night. App is a little glitchy lately, I think they had a ton of people join since the holidays. I have limited space in the house so I've sticking to the more stationary drills (you can move/teleport with the controller but it's awkward). When spring arrives and I can go in the backward with actually movement... should be fun!

There are all sorts of drills - Shoot/No-Shoot type, where there are 3 doors with cardboard targets behind them. The doors open and one of them has a handgun or rifle - you have 2 seconds to identify and get 2+ center shots to advance, then the time goes down. I've made it to level 24 which is around 0.8 seconds from open to close - at that speed I'm mainly point shooting. Bill Drills, Mozambique, even the Collateral/Briefcase drill which is so fun.

I've also been playing other VR games, but I mainly got it for AceXR. (I got the Quest 3 for better quality, 3s is newer, almost half the price with lower quality display but still usable from what I've read)
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I just ordered the P365 Macro frame from AceXR to use with my Quest 2.

The promo code "tactical" is good for 10% off the entire order (controller + year subscription).
 
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Phazer said:
I just ordered the P365 Macro frame from AceXR to use with my Quest 2.

The promo code "tactical" is good for 10% off the entire order (controller + year subscription).
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I used code "quade" though can't remember where I saw it - "p365" also works. If you're military or first responder you can get 20%.

Holsters just came back in stock last week so I have one coming Friday (I'm also using the P365 Macro frame since my EDC is 365XL). I've been wanting to dry fire more to practice red dot acquisition so I'm hoping ACE helps.

edit: If anyone gets a new Quest and needs a Meta account referral link to signup please DM me. :wave: (separate account from FB.. thankfully)
 
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Celt said:
Drawing from concealment and getting on target is huge. Using my airsoft to practice this led to dub second first round hits from concealment.
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Plus it’s fun. I have so much room in my garage and so many things at different heights this would be a great place to do it.
 
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I really need to get a casting and swag set. I want to recycle my pellets into 22LR bullets and more pellets.

This summer I really need to focus on how to mass produce reloaded 22LR cartridges and figuring out a way to take the firing pin divot out. Right now I can make a handful of 22LR cartridges, but it's slow and tedious... Ideally at the same rate as I can with hand loading center fire using a single stage press would be awesome.
 
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