During the Collapse): Part 1 – The Unprepared Neighbor

[livingston]

This guy is your enemy. (During the Collapse, that is.)

He doesn’t seem like it; in fact, he looks kind of wimpy. He’s not a jack-booted Homeland Security trooper breaking down your door to take your guns, so he can’t be a threat, right?

Wrong. Dead wrong. He’s a bigger threat to most of you than the government.
Know Thy Enemy (During the Collapse): Part 1 – The Unprepared Neighbor

 

[Deplorable Me]

"Second, get the hell out of that neighborhood at the first sign of the Collapse."

Bug out or shelter in place? A difficult decision. If you bug out you abandon many useful resources. Only so much stuff can be carried in a vehicle, where will you get fuel, where will you go?

One alternate plan might be, how do you turn your house into an uninviting fortress and what tools/supplies do you need? Do you have multiple essential tools to execute a plan? Tools enough to supply your family team.

How well prepared is the family team you work/live with, what are their assets, skills, mental toughness? Another hurdle may be the problem within your own walls. How fast can that team learn to be tough? Are you prepared to lead and drive that team?

 

[Blimey]

The generic picture in that article is funny.

The guy across the street from me doesn't even own a set of wrenches. No joke, it took him and his wife 2-3 hours to get a driveway basketball net setup two years back and he had to borrow wrenches from me as he owns none at all (probably a screw driver I assume). I'm just guessing he doesn't have a shelf full of extra food in his basement, as his primary hobby seems to be watching pro-sports. He also struggled mightily last year with a flat tire on his ride-on mower that he needs to mow his 1/4 acre lot.

 

[Saltwater60]

The generic picture in that article is funny.

The guy across the street from me doesn't even own a set of wrenches. No joke, it took him and his wife 2-3 hours to get a driveway basketball net setup two years back and he had to borrow wrenches from me as he owns none at all (probably a screw driver I assume). I'm just guessing he doesn't have a shelf full of extra food in his basement, as his primary hobby seems to be watching pro-sports. He also struggled mightily last year with a flat tire on his ride-on mower that he needs to mow his 1/4 acre lot.

Then that guy will not last long and you can have his resources the. That's what I figure at least. I know the two liberal hipsters next to me will not last long at all and I have no issues with that. The people a crossed the street that are in the medical field I'll help out. She has diabetes really bad and would not last long either. I like her, but that's just the reality of it. He's a Physicians assistant so he would be helpful. Other than that all my other North it's are useless except the guy next door that has good mechanical aptitude.

 

[Bananabandit]

My neighbors are scumbags, just party and are obnoxiously loud. Id say Im more prepared than the other 23 residents in the building. But Ill never share

 

[Blimey]

Then that guy will not last long and you can have his resources the. That's what I figure at least. I know the two liberal hipsters next to me will not last long at all and I have no issues with that. The people a crossed the street that are in the medical field I'll help out. She has diabetes really bad and would not last long either. I like her, but that's just the reality of it. He's a Physicians assistant so he would be helpful. Other than that all my other North it's are useless except the guy next door that has good mechanical aptitude.

But I bet the hipsters could help with roasting coffee beans and beard oil recommendations.

 

[Airborneguy]

I have two I would help and a few I would be willing to align with as they seem capable of doing what needs to be done, they just don't have the means right now. We could secure a ton of supplies around here fairly quickly considering the vast majority is unarmed, unprepared, and unwilling.

 

[DoD1776]

Read books about this shit. It's scary stuff

 

[Defilade]

Very soon his high-end grocery store is out of goat cheese and the police are no longer functioning.

Yep, the buying of Goat cheese pretty much nailed it.

 

[GOPerfect]

I will align with a couple, I will shoot many.

 

[Snappo]

This guy is your enemy. (During the Collapse, that is.)

He doesn’t seem like it; in fact, he looks kind of wimpy. He’s not a jack-booted Homeland Security trooper breaking down your door to take your guns, so he can’t be a threat, right?

Wrong. Dead wrong. He’s a bigger threat to most of you than the government.
Know Thy Enemy (During the Collapse): Part 1 – The Unprepared Neighbor

When he knocks on your door, shoot him in the face and stuff him into your commercial grinder and make dog food out of him. Problem solved in about 30 seconds or less.

 

[Podmonkey]

Like I've said elsewhere, during a permanent collapse I'm just gonna go cannibal and take an offence is the best defence strategy. Guy like that would probably be on my table before his second stomach rumble.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Read books about this shit. It's scary stuff

Best book I can recommend is the one second after series.

Part of its powerful impact is i t centers on a bunch of random every day
Non prepped type Americans as they are caught unexpectedly in a world of shit in a mere second.

I like the patriots series but that's basically prepped porn and not nearly as realistic.

 

[GOPerfect]

I actually think about this often. I have a couple of good neighbors who only live for the now. I have, casually mentioned looking toward the future. Never really got into what I do to prepare. They all seem to blow it off. If something bad does come our way, they are screwed. They will not be welcomed in my home.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I think about this too. Though more from the prospective of whether or not we'd be told to get out. We live on an old farm of which the landlord and family have all built houses around the apartment house. Just don't know what they would do in a collapse. They are all hunters. The hope would be they would allow us to stay and help out. The more I think about it, unless there is an immediate need to vacate, I'd rather try bugging in. But that of course would all depend on the family letting us stay.

 

[Podmonkey]

"In the end, we are all dead men. Sadly, we cannot choose how, or when. But what we can choose is how we decide to meet that end, so we are remembered forever as men"

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This is something I've thought over as well.

I live in the suburbs and don't have any realistic bug out location I would be able to reach of things really went to shit ( I'm not counting out of state relatives) I think anything farther than 100 miles away wouldn't be possible in most scenarios that would actually be bad enough where you would actually need to bug out.

So I realize 90% chance I will live or die by my house and neighborhood. (at least until I can purchase some land to make a BOL)

If I had to take a random guess, let's just say for sake of making conversation I have a hypothetical 3 months of food on hand at my house for my family. That's only what I have now. I would have to start an extensive garden and hope it doesn't get raided to grow more food. I would like to think I would help my neighbors because most seem like good people. But at the same time I realize every meal I give to them would be 1 less meal for my own family. It's a very difficult dilemma. For example the family across the street from me has extensive farming experience, has their own chickens and a pretty good garden. They are as self sufficient as you can be in the suburbs. They would be a prime candidate to band together with and try to work together. I'm sure some other families may be helpful in a lesser extent. And others totally useless. I want to live my life as a good person and help others where possible, under normal conditions it's easy there is no conflict of interest. In a major SHTF helping others comes at the expense of not helping your own.

I just don't know where the line needs to be drawn and hope I never have to find out,

 

[livingston]

So many folks have no clue ... I have friends that would be worthless in a shtf situation. ... And that is the problem ...Never fired a gun. Hardly able to use a shovel. One has cooked some . That is worth something . So many folks have never done any hand labor in general.

 

[Podmonkey]

So many folks have no clue ... I have friends that would be worthless in a shtf situation. ... And that is the problem ...Never fired a gun. Hardly able to use a shovel. One has cooked some . That is worth something . So many folks have never done any hand labor in general.

How can you not know how to use a shovel? Its operation is self evident.

 

[DoD1776]

Best book I can recommend is the one second after series.

Part of its powerful impact is i t centers on a bunch of random every day
Non prepped type Americans as they are caught unexpectedly in a world of shit in a mere second.

I like the patriots series but that's basically prepped porn and not nearly as realistic.

Read the Angry American series going home. Best crap ever!!

 

[tirwin1]

Reminds me of an old insult used by Lyndon Johnson - " He couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel."

 

[livingston]

How can you not know how to use a shovel? Its operation is self evident.

On their way to a wedding & having trouble with their ties, these 2 young men flagged down Officer Martinson for help

 

[Podmonkey]

I know how to use a shovel, not so great with tying a tie. I can do it, just not very well. I don't wear ties.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

My neighbors are like family....we all have firearms and use them, we have resources to fix things, all have well water and many acres of woods at our disposal...I'm staying put and will defend if need be.

 

[Podmonkey]

My neighbors are like family....we all have firearms and use them, we have resources to fix things, all have well water and many acres of woods at our disposal...I'm staying put and will defend if need be.

Can I come too?

 

[NY Leatherneck]

Can I come too?

Only if you bring your own shit paper.

 

[Podmonkey]

Only if you bring your own shit paper.

I have a bunch of flushable wipes.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

I have a bunch of flushable wipes.

Septic safe?,

 

[Podmonkey]

Septic safe?,

One a day safe. I got a bunch of napkins too. ...................Bath towels?

 

[Marine Cpl]

It's best to just hang low. Go around town begging like everyone else. Eat your stashed food at night. The minute you shoot one of these bastards, they'll burn your house down while you sleep.

Be the grey man. Grow your beard and wear dirty clothes. If you think you are going to shoot everyone that knocks on your door, you aren't going to last long. You'll probably last less time then them.