FFLs shutdown in New York
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tc556guy
.40 S&W
The closure of seven wholesalers last year hurt a lot of FFLs. Places like Jerry's and Greene's were my old go-to options for ordering stuff.
I currently rely on
Zanders, Chattanooa, Grice, MGE, and nominally Orion, but Orions sales rep situation is so up in the air I'm not sure whats going on there.
Interstate got bought out last year and I set up a new account, but upon trying to order I found that not being a blue label Glock dealer really limits what I can get there. Shooting Sports is supposed to be shuttered, but their site is still active and shows inventory. Most of whats showing is at prices I wouldn't pay for anything but the hardest to get ammo for customers who are willing to pay their asking price. I also have a dealers account at Graf and Sons, but once again that's primarily for some hard-to-get stuff I can't find anywhere else. Years ago I had an account with Sports South, but that's another place where I was deemed to not be a "real" FFL and my account was cancelled. Other than that, I very occasionally order from Ron Shirks, but their lack of a web presence hurts ease of ordering; no net 30 account, having to use a credit card with the associated extra percentage points in costs that get passed along to the end buyer, means I rarely use them.....
Well DHS gave a big suck it to the people trying to slip gun control in to COVID-19 response.
www.ammoland.com
I just saw this so if someone already posted it great but this means business open and even ranges are essential now.
Good shit Trump.
DHS Says Firearms Retailers, Manufacturers ARE ‘Essential Businesses’: BREAKING NEWS
The Department of Homeland Security has declared firearms manufacturers & gun retailers “essential businesses,” driving a spike through the heart of various state & local “emergency" lockdowns.
www.ammoland.com
I just saw this so if someone already posted it great but this means business open and even ranges are essential now.
Good shit Trump.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
Problem is that anti gun governors and local politicians will feel no need to follow that ruling.Well DHS gave a big suck it to the people trying to slip gun control in to COVID-19 response.
DHS Says Firearms Retailers, Manufacturers ARE ‘Essential Businesses’: BREAKING NEWS
The Department of Homeland Security has declared firearms manufacturers & gun retailers “essential businesses,” driving a spike through the heart of various state & local “emergency" lockdowns.
I just saw this so if someone already posted it great but this means business open and even ranges are essential now.
Good shit Trump.
With the courts shut down, there is no venue open by which to challenge these politicians who refuse to allow firearms retail operations to continue
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Easy, put table in garage.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
But wouldn’t DHS and Trump ruling trump the governors? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
Yes technically....but technically the us constitution does too. I seems to be ignored.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
So how the fuck do we get these unconstitutional corrupt politicians out of office?
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
I like that energy.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
In the end, after a long battle, would the Governors be forced to concede? Sure.
Up to that point, good luck for the brick and mortar stores in localities who will fight their being open tooth and nail.
Look at how many places want to disregard Heller and MacDonald, and those are SCOTUS rulings with more teeth to them than an administrative declaration.
Maybe I am too pessimistic...
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
This is causing a whole gaglefuck. FUAC!
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
This is not a "ruling"
This is advisory in nature and carries absolutely no weight. It even says so in the memo itself.
And Cuomo is just the type of guy to put Troopers in the driveway of every gun shop in the state out of spite.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
Ahh thanks for the information. Sucks to suck.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
I just want a full auto short barrel assault rifle that I can purchase online without background check shipped to my house just like the news and politicians said. 
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
Indeed
I just want a full auto short barrel assault rifle that I can purchase online without background check shipped to my house just like the news and politicians said.
Awesome
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I am glad I prepare ahead of time precisely for scenarios like this since the last thing I want right now is to be
in a small shop or FFL sharing germs with who knows. I bet a lot of FFLs will choose to remain closed.
But perhaps there is a way to have orders via phone and just pick them up outside or have clients
by appointment to only have one customer in the shop at the time and w/o touching anything.
in a small shop or FFL sharing germs with who knows. I bet a lot of FFLs will choose to remain closed.
But perhaps there is a way to have orders via phone and just pick them up outside or have clients
by appointment to only have one customer in the shop at the time and w/o touching anything.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Are there no lawyers smart enough to pull together a lawsuit against Cuomo specifically, and the state for dereliction of duty? Deliberate misdirection of public services? Suppression of constitutional rights? He may think he is the dictator of NYS, but actually he is not. I'll bet that if there were some lawyers that advanced a solid case, they could find some financial backing.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
No courts are open in which to file their case
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
Exactly. You can totally do all kinds of business and minimize the risk. Keep distance. Sterilize things. It's simple.
My landscape company got shut down. We work in people's back yards with minimal contact normally. With our work there's almost no risk yet the economic damage is being imposed. It could be reduced to practically 0% risk if we have one guy per site. But, instead we all have to go full retard... fuck it, I'll keep the couch toasty and burn through Evan Williams.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
Didn't they say that landscaping was an essential service for some reason? Thought I saw a post about that a day or so back....
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
So it's weird...they said landscaping in terms of grounds maintenance is OK. But non essential construction like hardscape is NOT allowed. It's absurd...we could go to a clients house and rake leaves or mow a lawn, but we could not build a brick walkway or retaining wall in that same yard.
The past week has been a shitshow in terms of figuring out what we can do...and relaying that to our crews and clients.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
What's the penalty for defying the order ?
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
Supposedly it is a $10,000 fine
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Preparedness = all the things you do to prepare for something like this.
The whole idea behind preparedness is TO GET READY IN ADVANCE.
The whole idea behind preparedness is TO GET READY IN ADVANCE.
Scoot McGoot
.40 S&W
Yeah man....after this is over, I think the preppers that were considered looneys will be looked at a little bit differently. Many more people will be interested in preparing for the unknown.