Grandfather of Oklahoma teen killed by homeowner in burglary says AR15 made for 'unfair' fight
- Thread starter Jmac00
- Start date
Exonautic
.308 Win
pretty sure this was posted here when it happened. two years later still just as ridiculous.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Three teens (with brass knuckles) vs one homeowner. Sounds like a lopsided fight right there. The AR leveled the playing field.
Three teens (with brass knuckles) vs one homeowner. Sounds like a lopsided fight right there. The AR leveled the playing field.
Target
6.5 Creedmoor
Ah yes....firearms.
The ultimate equilizer.
3 to 1.
If I recall correctly, the misguided yoots were armed as well.
One had brass knuckles, perhaps.
Maybe grandpa should have paid more attention to the kids and steered them away from a life of crime.
I doubt that I would have shot them but not knowing the circumstances one might deem that the propper action to take.
The ultimate equilizer.
3 to 1.
If I recall correctly, the misguided yoots were armed as well.
One had brass knuckles, perhaps.
Maybe grandpa should have paid more attention to the kids and steered them away from a life of crime.
I doubt that I would have shot them but not knowing the circumstances one might deem that the propper action to take.
Not this Ol' guy!! If 3 thugs come in my house, I'm settling it, in my favor. I'm 64 y/o, I'm not into fighting anyone, if something like this happens to me, I'm ending it post haste, with any "means" I have available to me!! Oh, I might add, that living down here allows me to have WAAAAAY more "means" than 1 could imagine!!
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Doesn't compute.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Beat me to it. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing something wrong.
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
3 on1 = disparity of force and only adds to the shooter's justification for shooting.
This isn't a gentleman's fight, Queensberry rules bs. This is three people arms breaking into someones home, this is I am fighting to live, anything goes, use whatever is at hand to do the job. Had this guy used a claymore, I would be ok with it.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Gramps doesn't look old enough to be senile, huh.
Robin
Robin
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
This grandpa needs to admit his grandson was a dumbass and move on.
Um, of course the gun gave the homeowner an advantage. They are designed that way.
Wanna know why I NEVER lose a fight or get the short end of an incident? I ensure that I always have an advantage!!
Wanna know why I NEVER lose a fight or get the short end of an incident? I ensure that I always have an advantage!!
They broke in, they were armed, no doubt they had ill intent, bludgeoning with brass knuckles is a particularly brutal death. They absolutely got what they deserved.
The whole point of using an AR15 for HD is to stack the odds against your attacker.
The whole point of using an AR15 for HD is to stack the odds against your attacker.
Tinman
.308 Win
There is no such thing as a "Fair" fight. Use what you have at your disposal. Problem is they brought brass knuckles to a gun fight.
@thewheels
.308 Win
And there's always a but...
twisted
.40 S&W
If you go to a “fair fight”, you came unprepared!!
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Brass knuckles are illegal for a reason. This guys a jerk.
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
Unfair fight?
If you EVER find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
If you EVER find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
IrishMick
.44 mag
That's why we back up the infantry with A10s and AC130s!
Hillbilly77
6.5 Creedmoor
A quote from the article:
"Brass knuckles against an AR-15? C'mon. Who was afraid for their life?" Schumacher said.
Any average person who thinks that they can win a fistfight against 3 attackers is delusional. It won't be like on TV where each one patiently waits his turn.
I'm sure there are probably some exceptions, such as people proficient in some form of martial art, but most people wouldn't stand a chance. Now let one or more of them have a weapon of some sort and that becomes a recipe for disaster.
Against 3 thugs, you're damn right you should be afraid for your life - even just a couple hard hits with brass knuckles could be enough to cause serious brain injury that could lead to death.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that the teens made decisions that led to their deaths, but it reminds me of one of my favorite sayings.
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
"Brass knuckles against an AR-15? C'mon. Who was afraid for their life?" Schumacher said.
Any average person who thinks that they can win a fistfight against 3 attackers is delusional. It won't be like on TV where each one patiently waits his turn.
I'm sure there are probably some exceptions, such as people proficient in some form of martial art, but most people wouldn't stand a chance. Now let one or more of them have a weapon of some sort and that becomes a recipe for disaster.
Against 3 thugs, you're damn right you should be afraid for your life - even just a couple hard hits with brass knuckles could be enough to cause serious brain injury that could lead to death.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that the teens made decisions that led to their deaths, but it reminds me of one of my favorite sayings.
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
Last edited:
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Where is the rule book on fighting at your home or on the street corner or at the local 711 or even in High School .. i gave a good elbow to the junk of a jock in wrestling practice for being ass .. he got the message ..
this Grandpa is a pussy .. and i bet the kid never looked up to him as a leader
this Grandpa is a pussy .. and i bet the kid never looked up to him as a leader
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
OMG...what if it was full auto ??
Exonautic
.308 Win
His trigger finger wouldn't have been so tired after.