Hegseth caught in second Signal chat breach
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Saltwater60
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Market must be anticipating your theory because it’s down again.
I like what I know about Hegseth but at some point enough is enough and he should no longer hold the position he has. I think it’s time for some losing on this one.
Yea... Don't like this at all.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Dude should be in prison for this level of negligence, let alone still be in the position he is in. Zero respect for the rest of people who hold classified Intel with high regard when asked to do so.
Vinson57
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GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Don't believe the hype they'll keep lying stealing and storytelling till the cows come home
and they haven't even left the barn 
and they haven't even left the barn 
Cavalry
.308 Win
If he sent to his wife, brother and lawyer how was this information made public?
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The guy is on target, thats why all the flack. Phoney, made up, spit ball flack
Robin
Robin
Saltwater60
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For all those saying it’s false it happened the first time because they admitted it. Maybe this time around is false and maybe not. Time will tell maybe. I like the guy so I hope it’s false but if not he has to go IMO because those under him would be gone or arrested for doing similar. We can’t have different rules for the head guy because we like him.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Boy, you guys are quick to buy into the hype.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
If it’s wrong for their side it’s wrong for our side. If it’s true its wrong.
Vinson57
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A retired three star general I knw 30 years ago contacted me and wanted to catch up with me and he was notvery tech savvy, he told me to use Signal and he used for a phone call to me. This was a surprise to me that he told me Signal.
Seems where I last worked and they are very sensitive about product information as control by the US Governemt and have paid fines they dont tell us that any texting is illegal but their own systems using Teams on their secure network which does texting to PC and phones but it seems all the 20 somethings like teams and text with everyone to include the person in the next cube.
Signal is probable to being a NSA/CIA system that they completely monitor otherwise would not exist. Signal was harder to use with its security features before and they have been removed. It used to not let person not verified to enter into chats. Now it does not care.
On top of this, AI is being pushed to phones , PCs and Tables as some kind of neat tool you need but its recording everything you do and this completely compromises secure messaging. Windows 11 has this on by default and they do not offer a off switch in setting and it takes at least two registry hack to get it off and every update they push it back on.
I don't think the US military really cares if the houti's know we are coming. Electronic warefare likes them identifying themselves to produce more targets to get rid of.
I see it that those complaining still on this just identified themselves as demonrats and probably still watch all the wrong TV channels for their news.
Seems where I last worked and they are very sensitive about product information as control by the US Governemt and have paid fines they dont tell us that any texting is illegal but their own systems using Teams on their secure network which does texting to PC and phones but it seems all the 20 somethings like teams and text with everyone to include the person in the next cube.
Signal is probable to being a NSA/CIA system that they completely monitor otherwise would not exist. Signal was harder to use with its security features before and they have been removed. It used to not let person not verified to enter into chats. Now it does not care.
On top of this, AI is being pushed to phones , PCs and Tables as some kind of neat tool you need but its recording everything you do and this completely compromises secure messaging. Windows 11 has this on by default and they do not offer a off switch in setting and it takes at least two registry hack to get it off and every update they push it back on.
I don't think the US military really cares if the houti's know we are coming. Electronic warefare likes them identifying themselves to produce more targets to get rid of.
I see it that those complaining still on this just identified themselves as demonrats and probably still watch all the wrong TV channels for their news.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
"White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has said no classified information was posted to the Signal chat."
That is what they say, maybe it was disinformation released on Signal. I don't know and you't either. So far this administration has been open and honest. Believe what you want.
Robin
Koz
6.5 Creedmoor
Pete has obviously ticked off the deep state swamp and there are plenty of disgruntled folks with an axe to grind. His "head" would be a huge score for the resistance. I don't completely blame his for round one of these leaks and hopefully we will learn more about how a total Trump hater got into the chain in the first place. Of course those things take time.
Knowing how the dems roll without rules, morals or integrity, I'm holding off judgement on round two until the facts (or a facsimile of the same) are made come to light. Even that will undoubtedly require some interpretation. Casting blame or innocence at this point is just conjecture. However, the punishment does need to fit the crime if warranted.
Knowing how the dems roll without rules, morals or integrity, I'm holding off judgement on round two until the facts (or a facsimile of the same) are made come to light. Even that will undoubtedly require some interpretation. Casting blame or innocence at this point is just conjecture. However, the punishment does need to fit the crime if warranted.
Vinson57
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RedBreast21
.223 Rem
Some of these comments are hilarious to say the least. People believe that with the election of Trump and the appointments to the head of SWAMP depts, that the SWAMP creatures have gone away.
What secure form of communication did Biden DOJ, DOD...ect use? No these are clearly leaks.
But don't ignore that all this could be a faint to keep the media focused on something else. Remember the media knows full well the MS13 gang member had a Final Deportation Removal Order issued in 2019. Meaning ICE is required to search, find and deport. Yet here we are discussing BS.
While I have no idea why these three "at will" DOD workers were fired before the results of the investigation and I can't help but wonder how those working under these three are feeling right now and if they are operating in a clearly different manner. Time will tell.
Trump moves so fast the media wants to, needs to, focus on something and maybe Trump is controlling that.
What secure form of communication did Biden DOJ, DOD...ect use? No these are clearly leaks.
But don't ignore that all this could be a faint to keep the media focused on something else. Remember the media knows full well the MS13 gang member had a Final Deportation Removal Order issued in 2019. Meaning ICE is required to search, find and deport. Yet here we are discussing BS.
While I have no idea why these three "at will" DOD workers were fired before the results of the investigation and I can't help but wonder how those working under these three are feeling right now and if they are operating in a clearly different manner. Time will tell.
Trump moves so fast the media wants to, needs to, focus on something and maybe Trump is controlling that.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Might as well get the rope and build the gallows already.
JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
I don`t believe it for one second that this 2nd Signal incident is real. These left-a-holes are still embedded deep in the DC swamp. They will stir the sh!t-pot with every lie they can get away with to make their enemy look bad so that they can get the backing of the moronic democrat supporters wound up and keep the hate boiling, even when its the same phucking lie. Ignore the bullsh!t. Because that`s exactly what it is....bullsh!t.
Bigfoot
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Fighting fair, within rules and tradition, and with a sense of decency, decorum if you will, while the opponent (The Modern Day Leftist Democrats doesn't.) Is sure as fuck 100% the way to lose the fight.
This isn't rocket science. But it is America in 2025.
Fuck them, I'm just sayin' kick them in the nuts.
They started the fighting dirty shit, the only way to win now is to respond in kind. IMO
This is not your grandfather's or maybe even your father's Democrats, the Clinton era.
The Democrat Party changed playbooks during the Obama years and is now playing for keeps.
This is no time for the political right to be cordial.
MAGA!
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This isn't rocket science. But it is America in 2025.
Fuck them, I'm just sayin' kick them in the nuts.
They started the fighting dirty shit, the only way to win now is to respond in kind. IMO
This is not your grandfather's or maybe even your father's Democrats, the Clinton era.
The Democrat Party changed playbooks during the Obama years and is now playing for keeps.
This is no time for the political right to be cordial.
MAGA!
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Thats dumb to say, no one here says that. But many are ready to lynch Hegseth for something thats not even proven out yet, not to mention all the possibilities of it. And even if true, i view it as minor compared to what the left has done.
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JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
I agree 100%!
Standard operating procedure in American politics. Both parties do these witch hunts, whether there are witches or not. Remember Valerie Blane?
Who gave a fuck then or now about her or her CIA affiliation, or Hillary using unsecure email account, as if anyone cares about security of Hillary's emails. After a few cycles this gets boring if not nauseating. Not to mention overinflated importance of what U.S. government does all over the world, as if it's something to be proud of.
Who gave a fuck then or now about her or her CIA affiliation, or Hillary using unsecure email account, as if anyone cares about security of Hillary's emails. After a few cycles this gets boring if not nauseating. Not to mention overinflated importance of what U.S. government does all over the world, as if it's something to be proud of.
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JunkBoxFull
6.5 Creedmoor
Very bad idea. Squash their government instead.
Saltwater60
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Wait, trust the government, trust politicians? I’m not sure I can do that. I’m not sure anyone can do that or should do that. He says no classified information was released but it seems bombing times and locations were released so that seems pretty serious and likely classified to me. I’m no classified information expert but this is a bad look especially for an administration that attacked Clinton for similar situations.
Even the quote says it’s sensitive information and not necessarily classified but some are calling it that. quite from the article.
Hegseth pulled the information he posted in the Signal chat from a secure communications channel used by U.S. Central Command. NBC News first reported that the launch times and bomb drop times of U.S. warplanes about to strike Houthi targets in Yemen — details multiple officials have said are highly classified — came from the secure channel.
A person familiar with the chat confirmed that to The Associated Press.
The information was identical to the sensitive details of the Yemen operations shared in the first Signal chat, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity out of fear of reprisal for speaking to the press.
Hegseth pulled airstrike info from secure military channel for Signal posts
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is defending himself against a second assertion that he shared classified material through an unapproved and unsecured network.
apnews.com
Saltwater60
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Then the administration says things like this as well. I get it at or may not have been classified information but most people can’t or won’t parse the minor difference between what was released and what they deem as classified. I mean the Kennedy files were still classified and certainly is bombing countries/terrorists a few weeks ago are must more relevant and time sensitive meaning they mean more and are much more important.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Careful. If you level criticism against "their guy," even if you've been critical of Biden, they'll call you a liberal for calling out double standards.