Help with Ruger Deerfield .44 mag Carbine

[REF]

Friend of mine acquired said firearm for a discount and cannot get the magazine to release. The release will not depress. Research says to lock the bolt back and put the safety on to drop the mag? Any help would be appreciated by him

 

[nortatoga]

First is it unloaded? Can you open the bolt?

If so can you remove the action from the stock?

Just spit-balling here..

Edit, Sorry I just saw the action screws are removed!

 

[lrick]

Would this YT video be helpful?

If I follow this correctly maybe the magazine pin was installed incorrectly?

Can you get a stiff metal shim between the release and floor plate to engage the mag pin and jimmy it?

1BFH if all else fails lol

 

[REF]

First is it unloaded? Can you open the bolt?

If so can you remove the action from the stock?

Just spit-balling here..

Edit, Sorry I just saw the action screws are removed!

It’s unloaded, can lock the bolt back but we tried removing the action but I believe the mag is preventing that from happening

 

[REF]

Would this YT video be helpful?

If I follow this correctly maybe the magazine pin was installed incorrectly?

Can you get a stiff metal shim between the release and floor plate to engage the mag pin and jimmy it?

1BFH if all else fails lol

I’ll tell him to try this. We were messing with it early and we got the mag release to depress but the mag will still not let go. The release still springs back so you may be correct?

 

[lrick]

I’ll tell him to try this. We were messing with it early and we got the mag release to depress but the mag will still not let go. The release still springs back so you may be correct?

Could also just be so worn there's not enough throw on the plunger to fully disengage from the magazine.

That extended release lever sure looks like a nice way to go.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Can you remove the action from the stock easily? This might expose more areas were metal is binding or pinching. Blind spots when rifle is assembled.

Dumb thought. There might be an over length screw in there somewhere which engages the magazine. Sometimes there are two assembly screws of different lengths that get swapped.

 

[REF]

Can you remove the action from the stock easily? This might expose more areas were metal is binding or pinching. Blind spots when rifle is assembled.

Dumb thought. There might be an over length screw in there somewhere which engages the magazine. Sometimes there are two assembly screws of different lengths that get swapped.

It appears as if the catch will not release even when the release is depressed. Action will not come out of the stock with the mag in

 

[Deplorable Me]

Can you disassemble magazine in place? Remove follower or pull floorplate?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Maybe tilt the follower to get at the inside of the mag?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Slide a feeler gage between the mag and catch? Sort of like using a Jimmy bar to pick a car door lock?

On my Ruger revolvers I've run into tight tolerances.

 

[lrick]

I’ll tell him to try this. We were messing with it early and we got the mag release to depress but the mag will still not let go. The release still springs back so you may be correct?

REF, when you got the release depressed as much as you could, did you also try pushing down on the top of the mag at the same time?

If not, lock the bolt back and give that a try. I'd use a dowel or piece of wood to avoid the bolt snapping closed on my thumb.

It might take 2 sets of hands to do.

ETA: Just don't push so hard that you damage the mag unless you're willing to sacrifice it. Since the plunger is conical shaped I think it would pop out with enough persuasion.

 

[REF]

REF, when you got the release depressed as much as you could, did you also try pushing down on the top of the mag at the same time?

If not, lock the bolt back and give that a try. I'd use a dowel or piece of wood to avoid the bolt snapping closed on my thumb.

It might take 2 sets of hands to do.

ETA: Just don't push so hard that you damage the mag unless you're willing to sacrifice it. Since the plunger is conical shaped I think it would pop out with enough persuasion.

REF, when you got the release depressed as much as you could, did you also try pushing down on the top of the mag at the same time?

If not, lock the bolt back and give that a try. I'd use a dowel or piece of wood to avoid the bolt snapping closed on my thumb.

It might take 2 sets of hands to do.

ETA: Just don't push so hard that you damage the mag unless you're willing to sacrifice it. Since the plunger is conical shaped I think it would pop out with enough persuasion.

Tried this as well with him today. Looks like there’s a piece of the pin that holds the mag in, rolling around in there preventing it from moving. He’s to the point where he’s going to accept it being a fixed mag rifle. I told him I’d destroy that magazine to get it out without screwing up the action before I did that. His choice!

 

[lrick]

REF, when you got the release depressed as much as you could, did you also try pushing down on the top of the mag at the same time?

Tried this as well with him today. Looks like there’s a piece of the pin that holds the mag in, rolling around in there preventing it from moving. He’s to the point where he’s going to accept it being a fixed mag rifle. I told him I’d destroy that magazine to get it out without screwing up the action before I did that. His choice!

He'll have to do just that if he ever needs to get the trigger group out. But if he got it cheap drive it till the wheels fall off. To each their own I suppose.

 

[Robin]

Always wanted one of those. I got nothing that may be of help, if he wants rid of it let me know. In hand I bet I could figure it out. Good luck!!!!!
Robin

 

[JohnD13]

Could you pull the trigger group? That might give him a better chance of getting at the mag release. I have one of the earlier models, so the stuck magazine fix is guess work on my part.

 

[REF]

Could you pull the trigger group? That might give him a better chance of getting at the mag release. I have one of the earlier models, so the stuck magazine fix is guess work on my part.

I think he’s content with leaving it in instead of taking a chance of damaging the gun

 

[Rondo223]

Can you slide a tool between the mag and the reciever from the top side with the bolt held back? The button that catches the pin on at the center of the mag should be accessible that way if you can get a still enough tool in there to jimmy the button back.
I suspect as said that either someone has reassembled something wrong or the screw that holds the mag together has loosened and will not give enough clearance to release the mag.

 

[Vinson57]

In the third picture, you press the section of metal between the trigger guard and the magazine and it tilts and the magazine comes out. The other model carbine is the same.