Is this the start of common sense carry in the Military?
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Glad to see the people that make policy here in NY also make policy in the military too.......... Why is the military budget so high?
A lot of Generals are Anti-gun, which is why when the DOD rules changed in 2017 to allow concealed carry on post, we were still restricted from doing so.
Obama has nothing to do with it. If you look at Generals through modern history they are all pretty much anti gun. Retired military commanders urge Congress to address 'gun violence crisis'
“McChrystal said he agrees.
"In the aftermath of two of the country's worst mass shootings, it's an affront to both our safety as a nation and the common sense of its citizens that Congress would consider actually weakening our gun laws," McChrystal said. "Untrained and potentially dangerous people have no business carrying guns in our communities, but the concealed carry bill in the House would allow exactly that."”
Generals and Police Chiefs tend to think they and their men will be the only ones who should have guns.
Many Generals have very little idea about the rel world. This goes for many life long Soldiers. The lives of many Active types are based 100% around their world. The life of a Soldier (Marine, Airman, etc) is very different than the life of a non service man. The two worlds are very, very far apart.
Peopel need to understand something else as well, the Bill of Rights are nearly non-existent on a Military Post. These Rights we speak of so commonly just don't have a place on most installations.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
" McChrystal said. "Untrained and potentially dangerous people have no business carrying guns in our communities, but the concealed carry bill in the House would allow exactly that."”
That statement is Full of $hit and this is what the left lives; and will die by. Why should a right be restricted by a border line or even worse....why does a permit holder in WNY get denied the carry right in NY $hitty. Of course one may "apply" in advance but good luck getting it approved.
AND...for all Vets out there who have been in a combat zone....You carry one day, then denied the next day upon separation. And even branded by some in Congress as a "high" risk. But the clean cut Congressmen/woman who have never been in a "zone" reject our rights by the Constitution.
That statement is Full of $hit and this is what the left lives; and will die by. Why should a right be restricted by a border line or even worse....why does a permit holder in WNY get denied the carry right in NY $hitty. Of course one may "apply" in advance but good luck getting it approved.
AND...for all Vets out there who have been in a combat zone....You carry one day, then denied the next day upon separation. And even branded by some in Congress as a "high" risk. But the clean cut Congressmen/woman who have never been in a "zone" reject our rights by the Constitution.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
I would postulate that most senior Generals (and Admirals) today are politicians with their clothes chosen for them.
The former OPPD Police Chief, now forced out, was anti CCW despite his supposed reputation. He thought his shit didn’t stink, and that he and the members of his department were the ones who should be armed, and who were better than civilians, who by and large can’t be trusted. I believe the same deal applies to various higher ups in our military and government positions.
He also opposed National Reciprocity, and signed the letter that a bunch of law enforcement officers sent to Congress opposing it when it was under consideration (barely, as that douchebag Paul Ryan held it up in the House until time ran out on us).
I would love nothing better than to see SCOTUS rule against NYC in the lawsuit currently before them, and give us the right to carry throughout NY state, including NYC. Not very likely I know, but there is always a slim possibility!
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
I would love nothing better than to see SCOTUS rule against NYC in the lawsuit currently before them, and give us the right to carry throughout NY state, including NYC. Not very likely I know, but there is always a slim possibility!
I agree but why stop with NYC....our permits from NY should be honored throughout the US
I agree but why stop with NYC....our permits from NY should be honored throughout the US
Hey, I want National Reciprocity every bit as much as all of us here. I only mentiuon the NYC lawsuit opening up NYC to us as that seems like it is something they could potentially rule in that case. Now, if SCOTUS also ruled to strike down "may issue" and require strict scrutiny going forward, THAT would be great! We could definitely use that to destroy Sullivan and NY(UN)SAFE. But I suspect that traitorous Roberts is going to sell us out and rule with RBG & company. We should know within about 6 months!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
we shouldn't need a stinking permit .. the evil bastards did not get one ..