Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

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In April 2017, Russian state media, TASS, reported that Zircon had reached a speed of Mach 8 (6,100 mph; 9,800 km/h; 2,700 m/s)

Zircon is believed to be a maneuvering, winged hypersonic missile with a lift-generating center body. A booster stage with solid-fuel engines accelerates it to supersonic speeds, after which a scramjet motor with liquid-fuel (Decilin [ru]; JP-10 jet fuel) in the second stage accelerates it to hypersonic speeds.[17][47]
Zircon can travel at a speed of Mach 8 (6,100 mph; 9,800 km/h; 2.7 km/s). This has led to concerns[neutrality is disputed] that it could penetrate existing naval defense systems.[55] Because it flies at hypersonic speeds within the atmosphere, air pressure in front of it forms a plasma cloud as it moves, absorbing radio waves and making it practically invisible to active radar systems (plasma stealth)

Its claimed Mach 9 speed would mean that it cannot be intercepted by existing missile defence systems, and its precision would make it lethal to large targets such as aircraft carriers

The other, unrelated SS-N-22 was the Raduga P-270 Moskit. It was ramjet-propelled (though launched by a small solid-fuel rocket), and was carried by later-model Sovremenny class destroyers, Tarantul class corvettes, and several smaller warships. This weapon has a top speed of Mach 3.[1] The high speed of the missile means a typical response time for the target of only 25 to 30 seconds, giving a target little time to react.

Yea, I'll believe that when I see it.

There are a lot of problems with that article.

The plasma sheath forms as they say. Same phenomenon that re-entering spacecraft experience.

But it does *not* render something invisible. It *does* in fact light the thing up like a beacon for everyone in the hemisphere to see.

It also blinds the missile itself making it unable to track anything.

We can shoot down high-hypersonic ballistic missiles easily.

An anti-ship missile without a seeker head and unable to receive external guidance because it's encased in a plasma sheath is not going to have a very high hit probability against a maneuvering warship.

There is a reason we don't make any, and it's not for lack of ability. We had a *manned* hypersonic aircraft in the 1960s. We could easily make hypersonic missiles. They just have enough drawbacks that they aren't useful.

Also, using one against a US carrier would be tantamount to nuking it as far as our reaction would go.

As for "why don't we just leave Iran alone and let them have the mideast", there are *a lot* of reasons why that would be a very bad idea.

We tried isolationism twice last century. It didn't end well for anyone. After that we decided *someone* needed to fill a role as the "world police". Nobody else stepped up, and now, the only candidates are *not* someone we want to hand that role over to.

Your analogy with Mike Tysons and the child is apt except we are prime Tyson in a room full of children. Almost 200 of them.

One of the 3rd graders just got a 2 year old to stab a 5th grader in the leg, and you're suggesting we just ignore it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

This is what they are up against. To hell with those that are Monday morning quarterbacking. You have no fucking clue and I personally find it insulting.

 

[FP1201]

Israeli Settlers Find Safe Havens In Shooting Ranges, Civilians Rush For Guns Amid Hamas War | Gaza​

everal members of Teqoa settlement in the West Bank are flocking to shooting ranges following the October 7 Hamas attack. The residents say that people living in these settlements have been keeping a gun with themselves for years. The number of people, particularly women, buying and training with guns has gone up since October 7.

I wonder WHERE they managed to buy 10,000 small arms, and IF there's a connection with Briben's decree to suspend export sales of "sporting" Guns?

I grew up in the Deep South in the 60's-70's-early 80's and there was a distrust, even a somewhat hatred of Jews...'course the same was said of Blacks, Mexicans, Haitians, etc. In never understood why there was derision of Jewish People, but there had to be reasons dating back decades of not centuries.

 

[Acer-m14]

don't they swear to allah ..not GOD ..

 

[Phazer]

Israeli Settlers Find Safe Havens In Shooting Ranges, Civilians Rush For Guns Amid Hamas War | Gaza​

everal members of Teqoa settlement in the West Bank are flocking to shooting ranges following the October 7 Hamas attack. The residents say that people living in these settlements have been keeping a gun with themselves for years. The number of people, particularly women, buying and training with guns has gone up since October 7.

I identify as a "civilian security team."

I'm a civilian.
I provide security to my family and myself.
I train regularly.

I'd like my rifle and ammo, please.

 

[Phazer]

Don’t let Zionism give you the blues.

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Da fuq?

 

[Acer-m14]

UTHO!!! .. does it have a bump stock too ???

 

[Acer-m14]

Guns 4 Ukraine

The City of Miami has set up a gun buy back program to assist the citizens of Ukraine.

www.miami.gov

so where is the Guns-4-Israel ???

 

[holdover]

Yea, I'll believe that when I see it.

LOL, they have been using the kinzhal hypersonic missle in Ukraine for the last year, extremely hard to shoot down . they have the technology . Your a reality denier .

We can shoot down high-hypersonic ballistic missiles easily.

Tell that to Kiev, I dont know where your getting that information from , Ive been reading about how dangerous they are to our Navy.

to shoot it down , you have to lead it , problem is it keeps changing directions in mid flight and they are almost impossible to lead .Mach 5 is traveling at 1 mile a second , As fast as a tank round . some of the claims are above mach 10 . Hows that iron dome working out?
But whatever, you can believe what you want to or you can read up on it.


""Your analogy with Mike Tysons and the child is apt except we are prime Tyson in a room full of children. Almost 200 of them.""

How do you figure Iran to be 200 kids vs Mike Tyson? the US out numbers them in every way,

 

[holdover]

UTHO!!! .. does it have a bump stock too ???

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Hmmmm ukraine did the same thing, starting to see a pattern here

 

[spat]

LOL, they have been using the kinzhal hypersonic missle in Ukraine for the last year, extremely hard to shoot down . they have the technology . Your a reality denier .


Tell that to Kiev, I dont know where your getting that information from , Ive been reading about how dangerous they are to our Navy.

to shoot it down , you have to lead it , problem is it keeps changing directions in mid flight and they are almost impossible to lead .Mach 5 is traveling at 1 mile a second , As fast as a tank round . some of the claims are above mach 10 . Hows that iron dome working out?
But whatever, you can believe what you want to or you can read up on it.


""Your analogy with Mike Tysons and the child is apt except we are prime Tyson in a room full of children. Almost 200 of them.""

How do you figure Iran to be 200 kids vs Mike Tyson? the US out numbers them in every way,

I figure the earth to be 200 countries.

Iran is one. But they are the one causing trouble.

Kyiv says it shoots down volley of Russian hypersonic missiles

Ukraine said on Tuesday it had shot down six Russian Kinzhal missiles in a single night, thwarting a weapon Moscow has touted as a next-generation hypersonic missile that was all but unstoppable.

www.reuters.com

Yep, totally impossible to shoot down. No way the Aegis missile screen around a carrier can manage it.

My level of trust for Russian aerospace is about the same as it is for Hamas's target selection.

I will give this to Russia though. Nobody can touch them on vaporware.

 

[Acer-m14]

i just turned off the lights in my living room ..

holy shit the speed of darkness is the same as the speed of light ..

thank goodness in was not a emp that did that .. would have shut down all of them fast rockets

 

[Acer-m14]

I figure the earth to be 200 countries.

Iran is one. But they are the one causing trouble.

Kyiv says it shoots down volley of Russian hypersonic missiles

Ukraine said on Tuesday it had shot down six Russian Kinzhal missiles in a single night, thwarting a weapon Moscow has touted as a next-generation hypersonic missile that was all but unstoppable.

www.reuters.com

Yep, totally impossible to shoot down. No way the Aegis missile screen around a carrier can manage it.

My level of trust for Russian aerospace is about the same as it is for Hamas's target selection.

I will give this to Russia though. Nobody can touch them on vaporware.

what movie was it ..

ohhh the flight of the intruder

you can shoot down a plane with a rifle ..

gunna get lucky . lol

 

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what movie was it ..

ohhh the flight of the intruder

you can shoot down a plane with a rifle ..

gunna get lucky . lol

Yea, knowing Russian standards it could be that Ukraine got lucky with one if the missiles and the other 5 just exploded on their own in mid air.

Someone was smoking on board no doubt.

Before someone pipes in, no, I don't trust the ukrainian claims, but I also don't trust the Russian ones.

And I sure as hell don't believe Russia has a working, unstoppable, and non nuclear carrier killer missile.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[livingston]

DF Raids Hamas Terrorist Base in Jabaliya ‘Refugee Camp’; Seizes Intel​

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) revealed video and photos of a raid earlier this week on a Hamas terrorist base in the Jabaliya “refugee camp,” a neighborhood of multi-story buildings near Gaza City once settled by refugees from wars against Israel.

As the Times of Israel reported earlier this week, Israel took a “stronghold” within Jabaliya, killing some 50 terrorists in doing so.

After having taken control of the terror stronghold, IDF soldiers conducted extensive searches and located intelligence information that included operational orders belonging to Hamas. This also included operational maps, means of communication, command and control tables and personal details of Hamas commanders and terrorists.

Intelligence in the 162nd Division and additional sources are investigating the materials which will be used by the IDF in future fights

WATCH: IDF Raids Hamas Terrorist Base in Jabaliya 'Refugee Camp'; Seizes Intel

The IDF revealed video and photos of a raid earlier this week on a Hamas terrorist base in the Jabaliya "refugee camp."

www.breitbart.com

 

[Arjuna]

Kamala Harris’ stepdaughter Ella Emhoff is promoting an $8M Gaza fundraising campaign: ‘Abhorrent’

 

[GTN]

Kamala Harris’ stepdaughter Ella Emhoff is promoting an $8M Gaza fundraising campaign: ‘Abhorrent’

Is this another Oprah style fundraiser where they say they’re going to donate all this money but none of it theirs?

 

[livingston]

Is this another Oprah style fundraiser where they say they’re going to donate all this money but none of it theirs?

Start of another clinton foundation. ...Someone must think Kamala will be president soon

 

[livingston]

Israel Warns Citizens: Avoid ‘Openly Displaying Israeli and Jewish Symbols’ Abroad​

The State of Israel issued an unprecedented warning Friday to Israeli citizens to be cautious when traveling abroad in the midst of a global wave of antisemitism — and to avoid “openly displaying Israeli and Jewish symbols.”

The warning came as part of a travel advisory to Israeli citizens. The advisory, issued by the Prime Minister’s Office, is as follows (original emphasis):

Israel Warns Citizens: Avoid 'Openly Displaying Israeli and Jewish Symbols' Abroad

The State of Israel warned citizens traveling abroad to avoid "openly displaying Israeli and Jewish symbols" due to a surge in antisemitism.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Defilade]

Is this another Oprah style fundraiser where they say they’re going to donate all this money but none of it theirs?

Maybe all the Hollywood Actors can visit BiBi. LMAO!

 

[tirwin1]

Oh I dont know

Really how so?

The allies deliberately bombed German and Japanese civilians in world war 2. We killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.

Sure, we rationalized it by saying cities were military targets or, in Churchill's phrase, we were simply "de-housing" them. But the military and civilian leaders all knew the truth. We kept on killing them until the cocksuckers that started the war surrendered.

Hamas deliberately mixes their military assets within the civilian population. And quite a few of the civilians were cheering in the streets after the initial Hamas attack. So lots of civilians need to die for this conflict to end. An ugly truth. Trying to impose "rules" on Israel during their fight for survival is ridiculous.

 

[Arjuna]

Democrats’ internal fight over Israel-Hamas war puts party in disarray: ‘President is making it even harder’

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[holdover]

Sure, we rationalized it by saying cities were military targets or, in Churchill's phrase, we were simply "de-housing" them. But the military and civilian leaders all knew the truth. We kept on killing them until the cocksuckers that started the war surrendered.

Hamas deliberately mixes their military assets within the civilian population. And quite a few of the civilians were cheering in the streets after the initial Hamas attack. So lots of civilians need to die for this conflict to end. An ugly truth. Trying to impose "rules" on Israel during their fight for survival is ridiculous.

I agree with all of the above is fairly accurate except :

""So lots of civilians need to die for this conflict to end. An ugly truth. Trying to impose "rules" on Israel during their fight for survival is ridiculous.""

which civilians must die?No rules implies a complete genocide for the safety of Isreal. and if your advocating ethnic cleansing and genocide, you have become the monster you proclaim to fight.

 

[holdover]

Benjamin Netanyahu

On the evening of Oct. 28, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed his country. Among other points, he made an argument for the war in Gaza, positioning Hamas as an iteration of the biblical Amalek. Netanyahu quoted Deuteronomy 25:17, “You must remember what Amalek did to you.”

Deuteronomy 25:17-19
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17 Remember what the Amalekites did to you along the way when you came out of Egypt. 18 When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and attacked all who were lagging behind; they had no fear of God. 19 When the Lord your God gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land he is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!


15 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

4 So Saul summoned the men and mustered them at Telaim—two hundred thousand foot soldiers and ten thousand from Judah. 5 Saul went to the city of Amalek and set an ambush in the ravine. 6 Then he said to the Kenites, “Go away, leave the Amalekites so that I do not destroy you along with them; for you showed kindness to all the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt.” So the Kenites moved away from the Amalekites.

7 Then Saul attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt. 8 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword. 9




How does the enemy of Israel perceive that? wether he meant it like that or or not , its not going to go over well in the Mideast.

 

[Arjuna]

Pro-Palestinian marchers flood DC, say ‘racist state’ Israel ‘does not have the right to exist’: ‘Long live the Intifada’

 

[Phazer]

I agree with all of the above is fairly accurate except :

""So lots of civilians need to die for this conflict to end. An ugly truth. Trying to impose "rules" on Israel during their fight for survival is ridiculous.""

which civilians must die?No rules implies a complete genocide for the safety of Isreal. and if your advocating ethnic cleansing and genocide, you have become the monster you proclaim to fight.

Historically, during total war, nation states attack enemy population centers in order to break the enemy's will to continue to fight. Those population centers also tend to be industrial production sites.

 

[Phazer]

Pro-Palestinian marchers flood DC, say ‘racist state’ Israel ‘does not have the right to exist’: ‘Long live the Intifada’

The Left has previously told their people to "punch a Nazi."

The Nazis in our midst have outed themselves.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Pro-Palestinian marchers flood DC, say ‘racist state’ Israel ‘does not have the right to exist’: ‘Long live the Intifada’

Wait, I thought Trump was the racist one. As usual, they are guilty of what they accuse others of. The world would be a better place without each and every one of those attendees.