Kimber Pepper Blaster Spray - Does Pepper Spray EXPIRE ?

[CaseHardened]

Personally, I am skeptical - of pretty much everything.

For instance, the missus was concerned about taking old TUMS.

TUMS are mainly Calcium Carbonate. CaCO3 is a chemical. It can't rot. Stored properly it will last until the end of time. So I told her, please don't worry about the TUMS.

Oil, Solvents, rarely go bad as they sit in a can on your shelf. Though paints, I believe, can go bad. Especially Shellac and Latex.

Even the FDA admits EXPIRED DRUGS are actually useful far beyond the date on the bottle. Though many will provide reduced effectiveness.

Canned Food, in my experience, is different. Some gets really nasty with age. I tend to toss it when it's past its prime.

SO ON THE THE POINT....

Kimber has EXPIRATION DATES on its PEPPER SPRAY.

Does PEPPER SPRAY really go bad ? Have you experienced FAILURES or SUCCESSES with old sprays ?

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Try it.

Let us know.

 

[masterswimmer]

The active ingredient capsaicin, might not go bad, it might be the propellant that looses its punch.

I second @Bullet Guy . Try it

 

[kev74]

I can't see the chemical loosing its effectiveness very quickly. I'd be more worried about loosing pressure of the propellant.

Is there a pressure gauge on that thing?

 

[CaseHardened]

I can't see the chemical loosing its effectiveness very quickly. I'd be more worried about loosing pressure of the propellant.

Is there a pressure gauge on that thing?

No

 

[HEX]

If you go to the Kimber site for it it says, "Because it’s not pressurized like an aerosol spray, there’s no way it can lose pressure over time."
Source: https://www.kimberamerica.com/pepper-blaster

So, if that's what they're claiming, then an expiration date should be referring to the active properties of it one would think. Unless of course they know that their own claim is faulty.

I've always seen it said that the expiration on OC canisters is based on the pressure though.

 

[CaseHardened]

If you go to the Kimber site for it it says, "Because it’s not pressurized like an aerosol spray, there’s no way it can lose pressure over time."
Source: https://www.kimberamerica.com/pepper-blaster

So, if that's what they're claiming, then an expiration date should be referring to the active properties of it one would think. Unless of course they know that their own claim is faulty.

I've always seen it said that the expiration on OC canisters is based on the pressure though.

On the other hand, BOMBS from the Civil War have killed - RECENTLY.

America still has a problem with unexploded Civil War bombs

 

[CaseHardened]

I bring this up because I STRONGLY recommend every Legal Gun Owner carry Pepper Spray.

Let's say some brain-damaged HOMELESS BUM charges you and your date after a nice meal at a local restaurant.

You use your HANDGUN - and you are in DEEP SHIT.

Use PEPPER SPRAY - nothing. Won't even make the news.

 

[HEX]

My other thought here is that maybe Kimber's claim about the pressure/propellant is completely true AND maybe the active substance stays viable.. and they just put an expiration on it so people will buy new ones whether there's any actual reason to or not.

I think it'd be a good question to call/write Kimber and ask.

 

[CaseHardened]

My other thought here is that maybe Kimber's claim about the pressure/propellant is completely true AND maybe the active substance stays viable.. and they just put an expiration on it so people will buy new ones whether there's any actual reason to or not.

I think it'd be a good question to call/write Kimber and ask.

And then, to boost sales and avoid litigation, they would insist their expiration dates are extremely accurate.

Well, I bought an expired one on eBay for 1/2 price.

Hopefully I pray to never use it, and thus will never be disappointed.

On the other hand.....

Still I will never stop insisting Pepper Spray is a wise first choice in any situation where the opponent is not presenting a lethal weapon.

 

[Cooolone]

I bring this up because I STRONGLY recommend every Legal Gun Owner carry Pepper Spray.

Let's say some brain-damaged HOMELESS BUM charges you and your date after a nice meal at a local restaurant.

You use your HANDGUN - and you are in DEEP SHIT.

Use PEPPER SPRAY - nothing. Won't even make the news.

Sorry, but I'll take the bait...

Precognition as to a prescribed consequence to an imagined threat is way too far from reality to lend it any weight!

1. Thinking that the use of pepper spray will:
a. Be effective (at all) for defense
b. Not have any legal consequence for its use

2. Predisposing as to what the "intent" of someone charging at you is, ie, what appropriate use of force would be to counter and protect yourself in a given circumstance. This means you "think" you "know" what the attacker is going to do, or what the outcome will be, ie, he was just playing "running with the bulls" and although 250lbs, running at you full boar, didn't intent to hurt you!

3. Establishing in your mind a predetermined path to meet a threat, ie, the use of "pepper spray" as opposed to deadly force.

4. That you "know" the mental capacity of someone apparently about to commit a violent crime upon you or your loved one.
a. That the level of mental capacity, unknown to you, is a legal loophole for freedom of action by the attacker and a restraint for defense, that you should know even though the attacker appeared 30yrs old, had the metal capacity of an 8yr old and wasn't going to hurt you...!?

Yes, it's a judgement call, an immediate and instantaneous decision that possibly can carry very heavy personal consequences... Both legally and whether or not you aren't in a wheelchair for life or even breathing.

That said, I don't carry Pepper spray to protect my life as its an inappropriate agent to accomplish the task, (ie, bringing a stick to a gunfight!) Not going to pull out pepper spray and the opposite side pulls out a glock, or has an advantage that could end my life! The momentary loss of time is an un-recoverable mistake and an extreme disadvantage in a life/death encounter, with or without a firearm.

Lastly, the pepper spray could also cause "you" to be affected by its agent and cause "you" to then be at a disadvantage of susceptible to injury by the attacker.

Just sayin...

 

[Acer-m14]

my brother came home from Army MP and gave me a can of spray .. still in the gun case ( mace n pepper mix ) .. .. he had a can when we were shooting .. sprayed some in the box of the 22lr brick we shot up .. here sniff .. .. smells like cardboard .. my sinuses suck . LOL .. guess a good thing .. lol ... he was like WTF ..

 

[Eddie Gunks]

And then, to boost sales and avoid litigation, they would insist their expiration dates are extremely accurate.

Well, I bought an expired one on eBay for 1/2 price.

Hopefully I pray to never use it, and thus will never be disappointed.

On the other hand.....

Still I will never stop insisting Pepper Spray is a wise first choice in any situation where the opponent is not presenting a lethal weapon.

While i agree with @Cooolone ........

The most troubling part of your above post is you are relying you life in an expired product? WTF?

The kimber pepper spray is like $40. So you are saving $20 on a product that may be used in saving your life and/or limb?

Look at it this way, there is NO medical bill or medical transportation you can get for $20. If that atuff does not work it could cost $1000s or life or limb.

If you want to use pepper spray please hedge your bets as much as possible and pony up for a new bottle!

 

[Reno]

I have used pepper spray quite a bit. I can tell you that for it to be effective the spray has to get in the bad guys eyes. I have emptied an entire can on a guy that kept turning his head everytime I sprayed him with no effect. I have also sprayed guys with a single small squirt to the face and dropped to the ground and cried like a little bitch. Some brands may be more effective than others. I used the one that came out in a single stream.

 

[kev74]

While i agree with @Cooolone ........

The most troubling part of your above post is you are relying you life in an expired product? WTF?

The kimber pepper spray is like $40. So you are saving $20 on a product that may be used in saving your life and/or limb?

Look at it this way, there is NO medical bill or medical transportation you can get for $20. If that atuff does not work it could cost $1000s or life or limb.

If you want to use pepper spray please hedge your bets as much as possible and pony up for a new bottle!

Hey @Bullet Guy, what part of 'saved $20' did you miss????

I'm a cheapskate and am just coming around to the idea that there are some things you just shouldn't skimp on.

 

[masterswimmer]

While i agree with @Cooolone ........

The most troubling part of your above post is you are relying you life in an expired product? WTF?

The kimber pepper spray is like $40. So you are saving $20 on a product that may be used in saving your life and/or limb?

Look at it this way, there is NO medical bill or medical transportation you can get for $20. If that atuff does not work it could cost $1000s or life or limb.

If you want to use pepper spray please hedge your bets as much as possible and pony up for a new bottle!

I agree with ponying up for a new one. But he should also do a video review of the expired one for us and test its efficacy. Make sure to test on a willing subject though. Gotta have fun with it!

 

[kev74]

I agree with ponying up for a new one. But he should also do a video review of the expired one for us and test its efficacy. Make sure to test on a willing subject though. Gotta have fun with it!

Willing...unwilling...really, what is the difference?

 

[MikeyCNY]

I bring this up because I STRONGLY recommend every Legal Gun Owner carry Pepper Spray.

Let's say some brain-damaged HOMELESS BUM charges you and your date after a nice meal at a local restaurant.

You use your HANDGUN - and you are in DEEP SHIT.

Use PEPPER SPRAY - nothing. Won't even make the news.

Ooh I love hypotheticals!

You pull your pepper/bear/whatever spray and let it rip... the wind catches most of it and sends it back into the faces of you and your date... the little bit that hits the "brain-damaged homeless bum" pisses him off, and he violently attacks you. You try to pull your gun, but you can't see! He sees your gun, somehow disarms you (hey it's my hypothetical I can tell it how I want), shoots both of you, running away and leaving you bleeding and blind.




A friend of mine went through the police academy.. the OC spray they used had little effect on him. He's also completed several hot wing challenges at various restaurants... no clue if it is connected. A very small percentage of people are very tolerant to the effects..

 

[Robin]

I like it on eggs.
Robin

 

[wizrd]

I have to think that pepper spray will lose it's potency with age. Canned or preserved hot peppers all lose their heat over time, I see no difference in the aging of the ingredients in pepper spray...just saying.

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

I have to think that pepper spray will lose it's potency with age. Canned or preserved hot peppers all lose their heat over time, I see no difference in the aging of the ingredients in pepper spray...just saying.

Idk because with hot sauces they tend to last for many years past their expiration date. I had Sriracha that expired in 99 and it was still very spicy in 2007 ish.