Lethal force authorised for the Military inside the US

[spat]

SO, (and if I can read it this way, someone bent on utilizing it could easily twist it post facto) IF there were another January 6th "insurrection" (as claimed by Dem. leadership) the National Guard could be activated with live ammunition issued...Kent State anyone?

Not just national guard. If they declare an insurrection they could send regular army.

And until very recently, posse comatitus *only* applied to the army, so a POTUS could sent the Marines to enforce the law without even doing anything.

 

[Defilade]

The posse comatitus statute itself specifically exempts troops that are being used to put down an insurrection.

All a POTUS needs to do is declare an insurrection, then he can ignore posse comatitus.

Maybe that is a good thing considering we have an insurrection with all these illegals..




Trump on “Violating” the Posse Comitatus Act— Using the Military to Deport Illegals

The dumb reporter says the Posse Comitatus Act can’t be used against civilians…

Trump counters and says they are not civilians because they illegally invaded our country.

Trump says that a “Major Force” is forming in the US, specifically 29,000 Chinese illegals..

He said he’s use the national guard inland, but if Nat Guard couldn’t handle, “I can see myself using the National Guard and, if necessary, I'd have to go a step further.”

MY THOUGHTS:
It’s becoming pretty clear some of what we are going to witness when Trump comes back to office… what a time it is going to be to be alive!

I think a lot of what we’re going through is to build up a public consensus, public outcry to get illegals the hell out.

 

[livingston]

If there's a law, but nobody follows it, and nobody is punished for not following it, is it even a law ?

 

[Defilade]

Not a law. A directive. Just like Mandates, Polices, codes etc.... Not suppose to be enforceable. Not a Law. Laws are made by the legislature. Everything else is bogus! Agencies and Bureaucrats do not make law.

 

[spat]

Not a law. A directive. Just like Mandates, Polices, codes etc.... Not suppose to be enforceable. Not a Law. Laws are made by the legislature. Everything else is bogus! Agencies and Bureaucrats do not make law.

You're not wrong.

But if you end up serving a prison term for violating them anyway, does it really matter ?

When Capones thugs showed up and demanded "protection money", do you think pointing out that they were violating the law was going go get you anywhere ?

 

[Celt]

I havent read through this whole thread, but the way i see it is if a local LE agency requests assistance from the military, in quelling what they have deemed is a violent armed protest, the military is now allowed to use deadly physical force. In the past they were not, and were only used for "intelligence gathering" purposes.

Seems to me that, with the timing of the election, they are thinking about how they (the left) can steal the election and squash any resistance. With that said im thinking that the overwhelming support for Trump will make it out of reach for them to steal it..... but who knows.

 

[Defilade]

You're not wrong.

But if you end up serving a prison term for violating them anyway, does it really matter ?

When Capones thugs showed up and demanded "protection money", do you think pointing out that they were violating the law was going go get you anywhere ?

And that is exactly the problem. And they need to be exposed and held accountable for their fraud. Most people don't even realize that if it isn't a law. It doesn't mean squat.

 

[spat]

And that is exactly the problem. And they need to be exposed and held accountable for their fraud. Most people don't even realize that if it isn't a law. It doesn't mean squat.

You don't get it.

Being a law is irrelevant. It's only whether you will get thrown in prison that's relevant.

Every state has hundreds of laws that are ignored daily that nobody follows.

And every state has some cops who will arrest people for bullshit that they know won't stick, but "the process is the punishment".

A law is just words on paper. Concrete and bars are real.

 

[Defilade]

You don't get it.

Being a law is irrelevant. It's only whether you will get thrown in prison that's relevant.

Every state has hundreds of laws that are ignored daily that nobody follows.

And every state has some cops who will arrest people for bullshit that they know won't stick, but "the process is the punishment".

A law is just words on paper. Concrete and bars are real.

Yes I do get it! And it needs to be changed! Otherwise it's to the boxcars.

 

[spat]

Yes I do get it! And it needs to be changed! Otherwise it's to the boxcars.

It can never be changed.

It doesn't matter if it *should* be, or if the world would be better if it was, because it's impossible.

 

[Defilade]

It can never be changed.

It doesn't matter if it *should* be, or if the world would be better if it was, because it's impossible.

Many things change. Massive movements have changed many things in history.

 

[spat]

Many things change. Massive movements have changed many things in history.

Human nature is not going to change, no matter how much wishful thinking people throw at it.

 

[Defilade]

Human nature is not going to change, no matter how much wishful thinking people throw at it.

Movements have changed it like I said. Slavery, voting rights, Labor rights...Etc. Change has to be on a mass scale.

 

[Celt]

 

[Deplorable Me]

Meanwhile :

Harris slams Trump for suggesting military handle 'enemy from within' as they vie for Pennsylvania​

Harris slams Trump for suggesting military handle 'enemy from within' as they vie for Pennsylvania

Vice President Kamala Harris has zeroed in on former President Donald Trump’s comments suggesting that the U_S_ military could potentially be used to deal with “the enemy from within.”

abcnews.go.com

Trump suggests he'll use the military on 'the enemy from within' the U.S. if he's reelected

During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

www.pbs.org