GOYABEAN
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Man with Pistol Brace Charged!
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This guy hurts us all, with his blather.
SBR's have to be registered............
"The owner had asked ATF if attaching a stabilizing brace to a CZ Scorpion pistol would turn it into an SBR subject to the NFA. FIPB’s reply stated: “Federal law requires a pistol with an attached stabilizing brace or stock be registered as a short barreled rifle (SBR).”
www.shootingnewsweekly.com
is-still-trying-to-jail-people-who-use-them/
Don't do it yet.
SBR's have to be registered............
"The owner had asked ATF if attaching a stabilizing brace to a CZ Scorpion pistol would turn it into an SBR subject to the NFA. FIPB’s reply stated: “Federal law requires a pistol with an attached stabilizing brace or stock be registered as a short barreled rifle (SBR).”
Despite ATF’s Pistol Brace Ban Being Vacated, the Rogue Agency is Still Trying to Jail People Who Use Them
ATF’s authority over such items pistol stabilizing braces arises purely from ATF’s own extrapolations, memorialized in its rule, and found invalid by multiple courts.
www.shootingnewsweekly.com
Don't do it yet.
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Celt
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There should be no laws regulating what firearms we can own, this includes sbr's, sbs's, full auto, etc...
Uzi
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But Trump is president, there must be some sort of mistake here. Surely the 10's of millions of current pistol brace owners won't have to worry about this?
I've been saying it before Pam Bondi was nominated, and i'll say it again. She is and never was 2A friendly. She's a political opportunist.
spat
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But there isn't a law against pistol braces.
The ATF just decided in their own one day to make one. Despite them not being part of the legislative branch.
And their excuse is that the law passed by congress is ambiguous about braces, so they can do what they want.
I *really* want to see someone make the argument that "if the ATF says the law isn't clear, then the whole section of law is unconstitutional for vagueness".
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Just like the CRS case locked up over a novelty gag and bureaucrats twisting none exciting law's!
Sorry.... I need to preface this apology....
Does anyone really think a pistol brace rule/law is on the radar of the President and the AG?
You think they give 2 shits over this shit?
For real? All the issues the US of A has and this is what people want tackled?
As for these charges.........
The indictment is YEARS old....
Does anyone really think a pistol brace rule/law is on the radar of the President and the AG?
You think they give 2 shits over this shit?
For real? All the issues the US of A has and this is what people want tackled?
As for these charges.........
The indictment is YEARS old....
The fact that Bondi hasn't thrown it out is a bad sign though.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
No matter his deep you dig into it, the mine is still boggled.
spat
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technically you don't want her to throw it out.
you want her to take it to SCOTUS and then not make any bullshit arguments.
so that you can set a real precedent.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
A rule interpretation by the aft is not the same as a law, even if they treat it that way.
Since 2023 when this indictment came down...
The Federal prosecutors have filed roughly 290,000 indictments for a wide ranging slew of charges.
Not sure how she can be aware of all of them....
Well the CHEVRON DEFERENCE which was established in 1984 was Overturned which means any rule or regulation put forward by any federal agency (such as the ATF) can be litigated. The fourth branch of Government was destroyed with that ruling. EPA along with USAID have been nurtured and I believe Trump is going after the IRS. Gun Rights groups need to challenge that way.
In 2023 ATF investigated 30,000 cases,; 6,000 ended up in prosecution, after pleas bargains and setting up 24,000 perps as snitches everywhere...........
Those 30,000 investigations, included all possible Fed gun offenses.
SBR's are clearly SBR's,should be so marked and registered.
Arm Brace Pistols are for the disabled, to be able to shoot guns.
The confusion comes from cases like these..............if in doubt, register as SBR.
en.wikipedia.org
Maybe rule/law will be changed significantly.........................???
Those 30,000 investigations, included all possible Fed gun offenses.
SBR's are clearly SBR's,should be so marked and registered.
Arm Brace Pistols are for the disabled, to be able to shoot guns.
The confusion comes from cases like these..............if in doubt, register as SBR.
Short-barreled rifle - Wikipedia
Maybe rule/law will be changed significantly.........................???
Rules, Policy, Addendum, Wishes, etc... Are NOT LAW!
The Chevron Ruling being overturned (by SCOTUS) neutered these acronym agencies!
Running afoul of any of these would and should result in instantly challenging it! No different than the US EPA trying to seize control and regulate "ANY" body of water, etc., the bizzaro world where these acronym agencies running amok is over!
Again, unless duly enacted by Congress and Signed into LAW, it just isn't... As much as they might like it to be!
Not sure why this is so confusing to some...!?
The Chevron Ruling being overturned (by SCOTUS) neutered these acronym agencies!
Running afoul of any of these would and should result in instantly challenging it! No different than the US EPA trying to seize control and regulate "ANY" body of water, etc., the bizzaro world where these acronym agencies running amok is over!
Again, unless duly enacted by Congress and Signed into LAW, it just isn't... As much as they might like it to be!
Not sure why this is so confusing to some...!?
He will be convicted..........don't be that guy.
thegunzone.com
Springfield Armory is releasing....................MAYBE.............. THEIR NEW KONA PISTOL WITH FOLDING STOCK/BRACE.
This may be a crime in a box...........
Are pistol braces legal again? | [October Updated]
Are Pistol Braces Legal Again? The Current State of Affairs No, pistol braces are not broadly legal again. The legal landscape surrounding pistol braces remains complex and contentious. While there have been some legal challenges and court rulings impacting the ATF’s “Final Rule” (officially...
thegunzone.com
Springfield Armory is releasing....................MAYBE.............. THEIR NEW KONA PISTOL WITH FOLDING STOCK/BRACE.
This may be a crime in a box...........
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Alphabet agencies that have gone rogue need to be reigned in and bitch slapped. If Gaetz was AG he would have done it. But, Trump used him like sacrificing a chess piece for position.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Don't get caught jerking off with one of these things!
Robin
Robin
The overturning of the Chevron Ruling is a bit more than this. The court only cleaned up the mud a bit. Still nothing concrete to the ruling.
Yeah, definitely... But the point was made!
Problem is, SCOTUS has no teeth!
Secondly, the take down of Chevron means that Congress MUST act on all these ridiculous rules and policies out in place by these agencies if they want them to actually be Law. And THAT is a problem because we all know those fuckers don't work for a living! Lol
Our Court system is beyond weak and broke. I do expect them to get everything right and make all people happy, all of the time; but dammit!!!! Rule directly on some of these freaken issues.
GOYABEAN
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Apparently the DOJ are dropping charges on Man with Braced Scorpion
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They are only dropping the SBR charge.Apparently the DOJ are dropping charges on Man with Braced Scorpion
They are still charging him for having a concealed pistol without a permit.