Mental health letter for Pistol Permit

[nadenegrey]

I've passed all aspects of the permit process but was told I need a letter from my provider bc I take antidepressants for low level depression. My providers company has a blanket policy they don't write letters for pistol permits. Does anyone know a mental health professional who does this sort of gun evaluation in the area? I'm in Newburgh. I did find a Dr. Pirelli in jersey who does a 10-12 page report for $3000! Please help.

 

[pshift]

If you told them already that its for you to get a pistol permit, then ...

 

[libertysnake]

I've passed all aspects of the permit process but was told I need a letter from my provider bc I take antidepressants for low level depression. My providers company has a blanket policy they don't write letters for pistol permits. Does anyone know a mental health professional who does this sort of gun evaluation in the area? I'm in Newburgh. I did find a Dr. Pirelli in jersey who does a 10-12 page report for $3000! Please help.

Ask if they will do a general letter, saying if you are a threat to yourself or others in a general sense. That should be more than sufficient. Make sure the pistol permit office is ok with such a general letter.

They shouldn't need more info then "he is not a threat to himself or others" anyway. If they need more than that, then it's time to get a lawyer.

 

[fnfalguy]

I know nothing about this organization but may be worth a look To confirm if legitimate. And welcome fro Orange County

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edited to add link to past discussion post, albeit brief

https://nygunforum.com/threads/orange-county-pro-2a-doctors.47656/#post-986983

 

[GOYABEAN]

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[Parzival]

escape from the gulag

I bought a revolver, from some guy, in a Walmart parking lot at lunch today.

 

[nadenegrey]

Thanks libertysnake, I'll try and see if they will sign something milder that doesn't actually mention a pistol permit. The details on my situation are that my GP prescribes my antidepressants for mild depression and was happy to sign but when she brought it to the office to type on their letterhead the manager said we have to check with corporate. The managers problem with it is that my doctor is a GP not a psychiatrist so she's not sure if she's qualified. My argument is she's the only one who can write that letter because she is my prescriber & if she's qualified to write scripts for behavioral health then shes qualified to write a recommendation and its arbitrary and discriminatory if they refuse to allow her to write one. But I don't know if this matters.

 

[nadenegrey]

I know nothing about this organization but may be worth a look To confirm if legitimate. And welcome fro Orange County

Fighting medicine's institutional bias against guns

2Adoc connects patients with Second Amendment-friendly healthcare providers. Help fight medicine's institutional bias against guns.

www.2adoc.com

edited to add link to past discussion post, albeit brief

https://nygunforum.com/threads/orange-county-pro-2a-doctors.47656/#post-986983

I reached out to them am waiting for referrals

 

[libertysnake]

Thanks libertysnake, I'll try and see if they will sign something milder that doesn't actually mention a pistol permit. The details on my situation are that my GP prescribes my antidepressants for mild depression and was happy to sign but when she brought it to the office to type on their letterhead the manager said we have to check with corporate. The managers problem with it is that my doctor is a GP not a psychiatrist so she's not sure if she's qualified. My argument is she's the only one who can write that letter because she is my prescriber & if she's qualified to write scripts for behavioral health then shes qualified to write a recommendation and its arbitrary and discriminatory if they refuse to allow her to write one. But I don't know if this matters.

Personally, I think the worst case scenario is that you shell out maybe $400ish and see both an LCSW and a Psychiastrist to both sit with you for an hour, and explain you need to just get an honest letter on this topic, and the GP can't write it directly. They can sync with your GP, and each other, and talk to you for an hour each to get an idea pretty quick, and make an impression "based on the sessions given and limited experience" perhaps.

Once again, you want to keep it general. Unless they need to know what it's for, you're not asking "is he ok to own a gun." It's "is he a danger to himself or others." If you're not, in the opinion of a mental health professional, then there are NO grounds to deny your rights legally and they will have a hard time in court with you.

Regardless, we are not lawyers. I doubt it gets to that level, but remember the golden rule: Say as little as possible, and reveal as little as possible, while being honest. Less you need to reveal, the better.

 

[Tisto]

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Maybe someone here can help you.

 

[Doc8404]

Thanks libertysnake, I'll try and see if they will sign something milder that doesn't actually mention a pistol permit. The details on my situation are that my GP prescribes my antidepressants for mild depression and was happy to sign but when she brought it to the office to type on their letterhead the manager said we have to check with corporate. The managers problem with it is that my doctor is a GP not a psychiatrist so she's not sure if she's qualified. My argument is she's the only one who can write that letter because she is my prescriber & if she's qualified to write scripts for behavioral health then shes qualified to write a recommendation and its arbitrary and discriminatory if they refuse to allow her to write one. But I don't know if this matters.

tell them you need it for your job or some shit. Good luck. Also might want to reach out to a 2A attorney and ask who they would work with.

 

[Saltwater60]

Thanks libertysnake, I'll try and see if they will sign something milder that doesn't actually mention a pistol permit. The details on my situation are that my GP prescribes my antidepressants for mild depression and was happy to sign but when she brought it to the office to type on their letterhead the manager said we have to check with corporate. The managers problem with it is that my doctor is a GP not a psychiatrist so she's not sure if she's qualified. My argument is she's the only one who can write that letter because she is my prescriber & if she's qualified to write scripts for behavioral health then shes qualified to write a recommendation and its arbitrary and discriminatory if they refuse to allow her to write one. But I don't know if this matters.

You’re exactly correct on this matter. If she can prescribe you and diagnose you then she should be comfortable signing this letter. I do get the liability aspect of this and you may have a difficult time having some one sign it.
$3,000 for this is absurd. Ask if they do a general assessment that is covered by insurance and sign a simple letter otherwise they are just using it for a money grab.

 

[Tisto]

Updates ?

 

[nadenegrey]

I have to wait till Monday to find out whether the company my PCP & prescriber works for will let her give her opinion which is positive on me obtaining my pistol permit. I also reached out to an old therapist who is fine with writing me a letter but isn't my current therapist (I don't currently have or need a therapist) and isn't a prescriber so I don't know if that will be enough for the sheriff, but I'm pursuing both.

 

[repete]

I missed something, just how did anyone find out about your 'condition'? Is there a question on the application?

 

[libertysnake]

I have to wait till Monday to find out whether the company my PCP & prescriber works for will let her give her opinion which is positive on me obtaining my pistol permit. I also reached out to an old therapist who is fine with writing me a letter but isn't my current therapist (I don't currently have or need a therapist) and isn't a prescriber so I don't know if that will be enough for the sheriff, but I'm pursuing both.

Keep at it till you find a solution. Even if you have your old therapist talk to a prescribing new one who can write the letter after a session with you.