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Doesn't count.
My take on the whole thing is this:
Two hours of people talking about proposed legislation we already know about.
State Senitor Galivan went through a quick list of proposals, all of which can be found above in the "bills to watch" thread, and his basic message was "Don't give up."
State Assemblyman DiPietro spoke about the proposed abortion legislation, ( see SomeSoldier's comment above ) and also spoke about having had some sucess at changing some proposals as well as defeating a few. His basic message was "Get in your representative's face. Let them know you're there. But do it respectfully."
Sheriff Howard spoke of several things, and the show went off the rails a bit when hypothetical questions started being asked. However, he pressed on and told us that he, along with other elected leaders , wasdoing his best to protect the rights of the people regardless of what the dipshits in Albany say. His basic message was "It ain't over yet. There's more of us than them, but we have to unite and we have to VOTE."
A representative from Erie County Pistol Permit office was there, ( sorry, I didn't catch his name ) and he explained how the permitting process works, how it has gotten better, and how it can still be improved. Train went off the rails here as well, people asking specific questions, but he got through it.
A few various other people spoke briefly.
The event was hosted by the 1791 Society, a POLITICAL ACTION COMITTEE. Being a registered PAC they are able to support ( financially and otherwise ) politicians as well as express opposition to them. However, being a registered PAC they must fundraise through donations alone. Raffles and other traditional fundraising tactics are prohibited for PAC's. Their financial statements are open to inspection unlike some previous local organizations, some of which had financial irregularities.
All in all, did i learn anything NEW ? Not really. No great myths were dispelled, and no bombshells were dropped about upcoming legislation.
That's my take, anyway.
Two hours of people talking about proposed legislation we already know about.
State Senitor Galivan went through a quick list of proposals, all of which can be found above in the "bills to watch" thread, and his basic message was "Don't give up."
State Assemblyman DiPietro spoke about the proposed abortion legislation, ( see SomeSoldier's comment above ) and also spoke about having had some sucess at changing some proposals as well as defeating a few. His basic message was "Get in your representative's face. Let them know you're there. But do it respectfully."
Sheriff Howard spoke of several things, and the show went off the rails a bit when hypothetical questions started being asked. However, he pressed on and told us that he, along with other elected leaders , wasdoing his best to protect the rights of the people regardless of what the dipshits in Albany say. His basic message was "It ain't over yet. There's more of us than them, but we have to unite and we have to VOTE."
A representative from Erie County Pistol Permit office was there, ( sorry, I didn't catch his name ) and he explained how the permitting process works, how it has gotten better, and how it can still be improved. Train went off the rails here as well, people asking specific questions, but he got through it.
A few various other people spoke briefly.
The event was hosted by the 1791 Society, a POLITICAL ACTION COMITTEE. Being a registered PAC they are able to support ( financially and otherwise ) politicians as well as express opposition to them. However, being a registered PAC they must fundraise through donations alone. Raffles and other traditional fundraising tactics are prohibited for PAC's. Their financial statements are open to inspection unlike some previous local organizations, some of which had financial irregularities.
All in all, did i learn anything NEW ? Not really. No great myths were dispelled, and no bombshells were dropped about upcoming legislation.
That's my take, anyway.
Trauma47645
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Carlos Hathcock
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Thanks for the "reliable source".
Marine Cpl
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Were they checking IDs? If not, you could have wrote down, "Andrew Cuomo."
Acer-m14
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write like a doctor .. or FUAC in cursive ..
Saltwater60
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My point exactly. I can walk in there for bingo or buy a beer anyway of the week and not sign in. The two old guys were standing there and sherif Howard was right behind me. I didn’t want to make a scene so I just left. I felt like I made my point better that way anyway. My problem was they were very wushu washy and has no clue what was going to happen to the list. I’m sure it would have ended up an email and phone grab to get money, but they couldn’t tell me anything.
Saltwater60
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I know. I just felt like it was BS and didn’t want to lie and felt like if I did that they wouldn’t see my point of view.
Think about this...
An old salesman's trick is to bait and switch. Politicians know if they pretend they want a large amount of ridiculously unsavory laws passed, the masses get all stirred up, lots of controversy, etc. Then they pretend they were only able to pass a few, less unsavory laws and act like they're hurt that they couldn't push their agenda through, but "vow to fight for the rights of others" and keep pushing....for you, dear voter. They appear "reasonable" It's all theater. Every thing they say and do are well rehearsed and carefully choreographed for your viewing pleasure. Deceive and distract...distract and deceive. That's all they do.
An old salesman's trick is to bait and switch. Politicians know if they pretend they want a large amount of ridiculously unsavory laws passed, the masses get all stirred up, lots of controversy, etc. Then they pretend they were only able to pass a few, less unsavory laws and act like they're hurt that they couldn't push their agenda through, but "vow to fight for the rights of others" and keep pushing....for you, dear voter. They appear "reasonable" It's all theater. Every thing they say and do are well rehearsed and carefully choreographed for your viewing pleasure. Deceive and distract...distract and deceive. That's all they do.
He would have been the 10th Andrew C. there that evening. But seriously, as a PAC I am sure all they were doing was compiling a list of people they could solicit for donations later.
There is nothing we can do to stop anything cumhole wants to do. We need to fix this with the next elections. If we don't fix it then, well... This state will be a total loss and I continue with my plan to leave.
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They did a crap job of reporting. The video angle made it look like no one attended. 300-400 people? Apparently WBEN got word out and there was a decent showing. Carl and Budd the 1791 founders are former Erie County SCOPE members who were tired of the ass dragging by SCOPE central so they formed their own group. Niagara County did the same.
Deplorable Me
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A lot of pre-mature babies are born in the third trimester. Andy has given the mom (not dad) permission to terminate them. Andy's way of social medicine cutting cost, sort of like what they allow in China.
Deplorable Me
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I'm hedging that Andy is hoping for a violent confrontation so his ends justifies his means. This is ideological political class warfare.
Carlos Hathcock
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I hear ya. You'd think that they would understand those likely attending would not be big fans of "lists".
Saltwater60
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While I agree 100%, but when I asked what was happening with the list I did not get a good enough answer for me. Well maybe, I think, you should be fine. It’s either the list is going no where or it’s going somewhere. If they didn’t know they should have said I dot know, instead they tried to beat around the bush and that just pissed me off even more.
There was a good showing there. The parking lot was packed full.
Btw 1791 has two members that we all probably remember.
Tremonds
This is one of the reasons I didn't join and I didn't donate.
Tremonds
This is one of the reasons I didn't join and I didn't donate.
I have absolutely NO DOUBT AT ALL that Pinhead and his minions practice that tactic all the time. Get whichever group he's going after that particular day all whipped into a frenzy about some over-the-top scheme and then "settle"for less, leaving the group in question saying to themselves " Whew ! Almost got our ass kicked on that one ! What we wound up with sucks the big one, but it could have been SO much worse !"
And in the end, pinhead gets exactly what he wanted all the time.
BDinPutnam
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Well, and turn it over to the IRS when they inevitably ask for the list of donors and members when 1791 applies for non-profit status.
holdover
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ArmedCorgi
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You calling Cuomo a genius?There is a fine line between genius and madness.
holdover
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No, just a brilliant legal mind .
kev74
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A brilliant legal mind who took 5 tries before he could pass the bar exam - with daddy's help.
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And who also thought manufacturers would retool their machines and make 7 round magazines just for New York or that the FBI would quadruple it's workload for using NICS for ammo background checks.
He's not a smart man. He's smart enough to put some smart people around him to do his bidding. He's simply a person with no moral compass, a useful idiot, being directed by the people who actually control things or wish to control them.
holdover
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And did I mention how handsome ?
Come on guys, I was being sarcastic . The guys a fucking self-loving spoon fed idiot who never earned anything in his life .
I felt that went without saying, but maybe not.
Come on guys, I was being sarcastic . The guys a fucking self-loving spoon fed idiot who never earned anything in his life .
I felt that went without saying, but maybe not.
kev74
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If you're going to lob one over the plate, were gonna swing at it.
Saltwater60
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Yeah I don’t think Cuomo is smart. However he is smarter than the morons that vote for him. Look at all he has done that’s illegal and they still vote for him. Look how many times he and most democrats have changed. Cuomo was pretty centrist except on guns for a while. Now he’s fallen off the deep end like most democrats have. Why have they done this. These extreme liberals can’t be the majority. They are trying to get some stuff pasted and have it talked about on the news regularly so more and more people believe it and think it’s normal. Hell on earth is coming.