POF “Other” rifle
- Thread starter BR3ND0
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Not being a dick but the whole point of these firearms is that they fall into grey area called an "other firearm". Just like the the Mossberg shock wave. They are not rifles, pistols or shotguns by ATF definition. Everyone has their own comfort level. Caveat emptor.
spat
.950 JDJ
ATF definition doesn't work in NY.
The ATF calls them firearms, NYS says all firearms need to be on a pistol permit. Good luck putting one on a pistol permit.
In a perfect world, but that definition does not apply to NY. People will get arrested with these, mark my words.
garyv350
.357 mag
Explain the shockwave then in NY.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The shockwave is not a shotgun. New York has a definition of what a shotgun is. It must be designed to be fired from the shoulder and have a smooth bore. The shockwave isn't designed to be fired from the shoulder and you have a New York law to fall back on.
This other called just a firearm, doesn't have anything to fall back on. New York doesn't define what a pistol is. It does however define what an assault pistol is. If they call this a pistol, it would have all the features necessary to define it an assault pistol in penal law 265 as an assault weapon.
An anti-gun law enforcement officer at first glance will call this an assault pistol. It's no different than an assault pistol. If I have an assault pistol in my trunk and you are a passenger and have a other firearm in the trunk as well, we will both have the same gun. They aren't going to just let you go and take me away. The gun is the exact same.
Being that it is the exact same, you will have to prove to a court that it is not a pistol. That's the difference.
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They’re hanging on the fact that the forward grip is part of the gun from the manufacturer. That won’t hold up in a NY court, not a chance.
Like @Willjr75 said this and an “assault pistol” are exactly the same. The grip is removable just like any other (not that I think a non-removable grip would make a difference). Will said everything I would have, even clearer.
Like @Willjr75 said this and an “assault pistol” are exactly the same. The grip is removable just like any other (not that I think a non-removable grip would make a difference). Will said everything I would have, even clearer.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And if the overall length of a pistol is just above 26 inches, a forward grip can be legally installed on it. Not here but in a free state.
All you need is a 7.5 inch barrel to have an overall length 26 in to be able to legally put a front grip on it in a free state.
All you need is a 7.5 inch barrel to have an overall length 26 in to be able to legally put a front grip on it in a free state.
11.5" barrel to make 26"
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Okay
Edit. Depends on the buffer tube and arm brace used.
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Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I wonder if Andy's site monitors alert him to threads like this for his evening entertainment. I mean he's too stupid to figure out Jeopardy, or even the Wheel. FUAC!
Robin
Robin
Kiknmann
22lr
maverick52
.223 Rem
If they are selling at Blueline then I’m sure you’d have no problem shooting one at their range. RT Gun and Smoke is selling the DLD “other” like crazy too. Down here is Westchester it seems like no one cares. BTW - what was blueline charging for the POF?
Kiknmann
22lr
Kiknmann
22lr
You mean DJS right??? Just being a stickler...haha
Kiknmann
22lr
Or is it DPS
People not caring even in Westchester? Love it!!
knuts
.45 acp
i forgot the exact price. i believe 1400-1600? somewhere along that range
garyv350
.357 mag
So call them and have them ship on to your ffl. They sell them and are the local distributor for them also.
How much are they going for?
I would do this but I don't think any of the FFLs I know would feel comfortable transferring it to me (Firing Pin, Gadsden, Imperial Arms, etc). MIght be worth a discussion though..one of them didn't even know what an other was when I brought it up last week.
garyv350
.357 mag
That's about right for DI. The piston driven P415 is closer to 2 grand.
Kiknmann
22lr
Collectors in Hopewell has a used POF in 5.56 for under $900
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Kiknmann
22lr
Hahaha took me a second.."steal"....hahaha
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Adaptive in pawling has the dld if thats closer to you.
So how is this listed on your PERMIT? As "other"?