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dwa12479 said:
Isn't that the God awful fucking truth.
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If Trump fucks this up, letting that fucker Ryan push his shitty plan through, Trump can forget a 2nd term. From what I can figure, and I could be very wrong, older Americans will be getting screwed.

That shit is not going to float.

The real problem is the ludicrous costs of virtually all parts of the medical system. Some people are really cashing in on the "sick care industry".
 
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prambo said:
If Trump fucks this up, letting that fucker Ryan push his shitty plan through, Trump can forget a 2nd term. From what I can figure, and I could be very wrong, older Americans will be getting screwed.

That shit is not going to float.

The real problem is the ludicrous costs of virtually all parts of the medical system. Some people are really cashing in on the "sick care industry".
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I think it's an unsolvable problem given an aging population, intractable insurance companies, and an entitlement mentality. Not to mention the lunacy of most of our representatives.

Either side could present the best ever health plan and the other side would block it.

They can't even agree to protect the border or keep people from combative countries out.

I don't know what Trump is doing with this halfassed lame plan but I suspect there is a lot more going on behind the scenes. At least I hope so. I know he's not perfect and is merely bailing water from a sinking ship, but imagine if Clinton won.
 
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Frankly said:
I think it's an unsolvable problem given an aging population, intractable insurance companies, and an entitlement mentality. Not to mention the lunacy of most of our representatives.

Either side could present the best ever health plan and the other side would block it.

They can't even agree to protect the border or keep people from combative countries out.

I don't know what Trump is doing with this halfassed lame plan but I suspect there is a lot more going on behind the scenes. At least I hope so. I know he's not perfect and is merely bailing water from a sinking ship, but imagine if Clinton won.
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Couldn't agree more.

This may actually be a real public, and behind the scenes, application of "The Art of the Deal". Hopefully, what's on the table isn't what we end up with.

Then again, if you follow the financial stuff, we'll be so ass-raped by the depression-from-Hell when the economy hits the wall, that health care will be a moot point.
 
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The problem with any change to obamacare is this: if even one person loses health care then the press and the democrats will have a field day talking about cruel and heartless republicans. Obamacare brought some people health insurance but the costs were astronomical and can't be supported in the long run. The liberals and the democrats don't care. They just want their talking point. The whole system needs to be overhauled but if a single individual victim can be found then its game over. Paul Ryan was on hannity's program last week and patiently explained what they were up against - in particular the political realities of the senate with schumer. I think all of this talk about Ryan "sabotaging" the reform is nonsense. The bill is not what anyone really wants but something like this can't be implemented with a magic wand.
 
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IMHO, Ryan is a lying, smiling, despicable, self serving motherfucker who sold us out when he took over after that sellout Boehner.

Breitbart did a good piece on him some time back that exposed how his actions (on immigration in particular) ran exactly counter to his public statements. He sells out the conservatives in the House regularly.

A recent case in point: when he took over as Speaker, he vowed that there would be "regular order" and that bills would NOT be written in private without member input, and then "sprung" on the House members for a vote. And in his BS attempt to "repeal and replace Obamacare", he did the EXACT OPPOSITE of his promise! FUCK HIM!

He needs to go back to Jamesville, WI, and hide behind the wall he built around HIS estate.
 
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VietnamEraVet said:
IMHO, Ryan is a lying, smiling, despicable, self serving motherfucker who sold us out when he took over after that sellout Boehner.

Breitbart did a good piece on him some time back that exposed how his actions (on immigration in particular) ran exactly counter to his public statements. He sells out the conservatives in the House regularly.

A recent case in point: when he took over as Speaker, he vowed that there would be "regular order" and that bills would NOT be written in private without member input, and then "sprung" on the House members for a vote. And in his BS attempt to "repeal and replace Obamacare", he did the EXACT OPPOSITE of his promise! FUCK HIM!

He needs to go back to Jamesville, WI, and hide behind the wall he built around HIS estate.
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He's not trustworthy - how many flip-flops on Trump did the asshole do during the primaries and election?

Can't see Trump trusting him - he has to be playing Ryno, or the electorate in some way.
 
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