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People have noted that President Reagan changed after his assassination attempt. He lost some of his fire, became a bit more subdued.

This is all still very fresh, I hope that doesn't happen with President Trump.
 
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Did you see the chick try to holster her weapon by the car???
Broke 6 of the 4 gun safety rules!!! :)
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The agent in front of the SUV clearly fumbled with her holster.

The agent behind the SUV (above) showed horrible muzzle discipline. Barrel horizontal with no target in sight.
 
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lrick said:
People have noted that President Reagan changed after his assassination attempt. He lost some of his fire, became a bit more subdued.

This is all still very fresh, I hope that doesn't happen with President Trump.
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Maybe a warning. If you don’t go now. Next time we won’t miss. Was a Very easy shot
Make Trump think…. Is it worth it. :idk:
 
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lrick said:
People have noted that President Reagan changed after his assassination attempt. He lost some of his fire, became a bit more subdued.

This is all still very fresh, I hope that doesn't happen with President Trump.
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Regan was shot in his lung and lost nearly 40% of his blood before reaching hospital i wouldn't be surprised if Trump is posting on Truth Social tonight.
 
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GOPerfect said:
Can you show me in the ruling where it says this is acceptable? I must have missed it when I read the decision.
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GOPerfect said:
Can you show me in the ruling where it says this is acceptable? I must have missed it when I read the decision.
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"Held: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority."

From Sotomayor's dissent:

The Court now confronts a question it has never had to answer in the Nation's history: Whether a former President enjoys immunity from federal criminal prosecution. The majority thinks he should, and so it invents an atextual, ahistorical, and unjustifiable immunity that puts the President above the law
The majority makes three moves that, in effect, completely insulate Presidents from criminal liability. First, the majority creates absolute immunity for the President's exercise of "core constitutional powers." Ante, at 6. This holding is unnecessary on the facts of the indictment, and the majority's attempt to apply it to the facts expands the concept of core powers beyond any recognizable bounds. In any event, it is quickly eclipsed by the second move, which is to create expansive immunity for all "official act. Ante, at 14. Whether described as presumptive or absolute, under the majority's rule, a President's use of any official power for any purpose, even the most corrupt, is immune from prosecution.
 
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cgrutt said:
Regan was shot in his lung and lost nearly 40% of his blood before reaching hospital i wouldn't be surprised if Trump is posting on Truth Social tonight.
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Yeah, I'm with ya, different level of magnitude. But when the reality of it sets in and you realize you were literally an inch away from death might kind of mess with your head.
 
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Rap said:
"Held: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority."

From Sotomayor's dissent:

The Court now confronts a question it has never had to answer in the Nation's history: Whether a former President enjoys immunity from federal criminal prosecution. The majority thinks he should, and so it invents an atextual, ahistorical, and unjustifiable immunity that puts the President above the law
The majority makes three moves that, in effect, completely insulate Presidents from criminal liability. First, the majority creates absolute immunity for the President's exercise of "core constitutional powers." Ante, at 6. This holding is unnecessary on the facts of the indictment, and the majority's attempt to apply it to the facts expands the concept of core powers beyond any recognizable bounds. In any event, it is quickly eclipsed by the second move, which is to create expansive immunity for all "official act. Ante, at 14. Whether described as presumptive or absolute, under the majority's rule, a President's use of any official power for any purpose, even the most corrupt, is immune from prosecution.
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Do I smell a demonrat?
 
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Rap said:
"Held: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority."

From Sotomayor's dissent:

The Court now confronts a question it has never had to answer in the Nation's history: Whether a former President enjoys immunity from federal criminal prosecution. The majority thinks he should, and so it invents an atextual, ahistorical, and unjustifiable immunity that puts the President above the law
The majority makes three moves that, in effect, completely insulate Presidents from criminal liability. First, the majority creates absolute immunity for the President's exercise of "core constitutional powers." Ante, at 6. This holding is unnecessary on the facts of the indictment, and the majority's attempt to apply it to the facts expands the concept of core powers beyond any recognizable bounds. In any event, it is quickly eclipsed by the second move, which is to create expansive immunity for all "official act. Ante, at 14. Whether described as presumptive or absolute, under the majority's rule, a President's use of any official power for any purpose, even the most corrupt, is immune from prosecution.
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So, murdering people is part of the Constitution? Weird, I must have missed that as well when studying my Constitution.
 
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IIRC the Secret Service snipers use 300 Win Mag. Probably took the assassin's head clean off his shoulders at a 130-200 yard range.
 
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4WHLDRFTN said:
Maybe a warning. If you don’t go now. Next time we won’t miss. Was a Very easy shot
Make Trump think…. Is it worth it. :idk:
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I'm sure most everyone on this forum could make that shot but who knows, maybe this was one of those antifa soy-boys who saved all his money for his first rifle and found out it's a little tougher shooting at distance than shooting a school full of children like those that inspire them have done.
 
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lrick said:
I'm sure most everyone on this forum could make that shot but who knows, maybe this was one of those antifa soy-boys who saved all his money for his first rifle and found out it's a little tougher shooting at distance than shooting a school full of children like those that inspire them have done.
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That too
 
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GOPerfect said:
I did not put, or try to put words into your mouth. Maybe go back and re-read.... You seem to not want Trump to settle things down a bit, good for you. Apparently you want things to escalate tonight.
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Sure you did. I was talking about how Trump ought to respond, and how you want him to be magnanimous after one or more people tried to assassinate him. This after more than 8 years of lies and impeachments and arrests and prosecutions and on and on.

So you accused me of wanting everyone to get in the streets and start fucking shooting people. Maybe a job at CNN is in your future!

Like what, I don't now my own mind or views on things that I write or speak about, so that gives you a pass for making up bullshit?

I guess sometimes you can take the NYer our of NY, but you can't take the NY out of the NYer.
 
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GOPerfect said:
So, murdering people is part of the Constitution? Weird, I must have missed that as well when studying my Constitution.
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That's the point. Constitutional authority encompasses acts that would be patently illegal, if not committed by the president. This was covered in the arguments and hypotheticals posed to the Court.
 
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