4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
Ha. “That old broken down pile o crap”
President Trump shot (2024 Butler PA)
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Cavalry
.308 Win
Depending on the version of the tale told;
Cop had no ladder and was boosted up by another officer and could not climb and shoot at the same time while the shithead swung the rifle at him and then immediately started firing.
Pretty interesting that the crowd could see shithead skylining from the ground but there was no LE to take a shot.
Oh, that should end it then.
Weak men = bad times.
"There we were protecting President Trump! When suddenly up rushed a civilian screaming about a person on the roof with a rifle. I dropped my donut and went to save the President. Like a super hero I climbed the same ladder the assassin used to get on the roof. Reaching the top I could see the assassin he too could see me! He moved to point his weapon at me and I quickly had a movement of my own and fell off the ladder. After getting up on my feet again I made my squad pinky swear to never tell anyone what happened and we took a break for lunch and some refreshments because it was hot out side.
Weak men = bad times.
"There we were protecting President Trump! When suddenly up rushed a civilian screaming about a person on the roof with a rifle. I dropped my donut and went to save the President. Like a super hero I climbed the same ladder the assassin used to get on the roof. Reaching the top I could see the assassin he too could see me! He moved to point his weapon at me and I quickly had a movement of my own and fell off the ladder. After getting up on my feet again I made my squad pinky swear to never tell anyone what happened and we took a break for lunch and some refreshments because it was hot out side.
Different Drummer
.44 mag
Apparently it has been reported that the shooter pointed his rifle at the police officer causing him to go back down the ladder. Perhaps if the officer had started firing his service weapon into the ground below him the shot sounds might have alerted the staff at the stage causing them to take action to protect Trump.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Folks we are getting so many stories it is hard to know what is true.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
The story the PSP told congress yesterday. He was boosted up by another Leo hanging on with his hands crooks pointed the rifle at him and he slipped and fell off the roof
That is almost believable only not.
The other leo was what 6'+, the looker guy was what 6'+ = 12' to the top of his head if he is standing on the other guys HEAD.
The roof is metal and ~5/12 pitch plus is more than 12' tall, I call bs on the leo ladder trick.
Yet, now two leos know about the sniper and what said "Oh look break time!".
F that we got traitors in every position of power.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
They reported it then it was relayed to the aSS
I agree, but one small correction. According to the PA Police Commissioner it was PA ESU guys manning that window post, not USSS. And originally they were supposed to have been on the roof. I think I heard one of them referred to as "her" or "she".
Not that it matters much in the big picture....any robust plan would've provided for coverage overlap and/or contingencies and USSS command oversight. You don't plan for how things go normally, you plan for how they go sideways. And one of the most obvious scenarios you plan for is a diversion, in which case, to your point...YOU DON'T LEAVE YOUR POST. General Orders of a Sentry...any recruit fresh out of boot-camp could have done a better job.
But someone didn't want or ensure robust protection for Trump. At a minimum this was passive submission to an attempt at the highest levels. Opportunity X means = a greater chance of success. The opportunity was provided by way of lax protocols, planning and resources. Who OK'd the tactical blunder of not occupying a rooftop that provided near 360 degrees overwatch and physical possession in favor of one that was disconnected and offered less than 180 degrees of overwatch? At the very least the building should have then been secured at the ground level.
Given the hatred for Trump the threat assessment should have been off the chart, which you counter with a strong plan and resources to enforce the plan. Go the other way and you increase the likelihood that an attempt will succeed over time. And that is where we are now. The only questions left are who are all the players responsible for providing the opportunity and who may have provided the means.
You just can't stack this much failure, coincidence and luck before the weight of it becomes unbearable. This was not an organic chance event, it was by design.
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Cavalry
.308 Win
Do the police have to attempt to climb the main roof only? What about the building connection structure where the ladder picture famously occurred. That looks to be at least 18" lower than the dripedge of the main building.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
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GOP Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina pressed Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle on Monday on reports that the Pittsburgh Secret Service field office sent four times the number of additional agents to cover a first lady Jill Biden event than to former President Donald Trump’s July 13 rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, where he was shot.“Multiple whistleblowers and various media outlets have reported that the Pittsburgh field office of the Secret Service allocated 12 additional post standers to the first lady’s event and three additional post standers to the Trump rally. Is that correct?” Timmons asked.
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The investigation needs to be taken away from the FBI. Once again it is a 3 letter agency that has no business in Government. All it is doing is covering shit up!
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
C'mon man youknow the thingJaw-Dropper: Four Times as Many Local Secret Service Agents Sent to Jill Biden on Same Day Trump Was Shot
GOP Rep. William Timmons of South Carolina pressed Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle on Monday on reports that the Pittsburgh Secret Service field office sent four times the number of additional agents to cover a first lady Jill Biden event than to former President Donald Trump’s July 13 rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, where he was shot.
“Multiple whistleblowers and various media outlets have reported that the Pittsburgh field office of the Secret Service allocated 12 additional post standers to the first lady’s event and three additional post standers to the Trump rally. Is that correct?” Timmons asked.
“Who made the decision to deploy 12 post standers to the casino, where the first lady was having a 400 person dinner, and only three people from the Pittsburgh field office to the 20,000 person-plus Trump rally?” Timmons asked.
Jaw-Dropper: Four Times as Many Local Secret Service Agents Sent to Jill Biden on Same Day Trump Was Shot | The Gateway Pundit | by Randy DeSoto, The Western Journal
On Monday, GOP Rep. William Timmons pressed Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle about the Donald Trump assassination attempt.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
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YOU ARE THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE SYSTEM - THIS IS WHY THEY FEAR TRUMP AND WHY ROBERT KAGAN WROTE HIS PIECE JUSTIFYING HIS ASSASSINATION
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
delete
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
thats on purpose.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
BREAKING NEWS: FBI Director Chris Wray Reveals New Information About Weapon Used By Trump Shooter
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
This is gonna be like the Epstein-Maxwell case. Once Epstein "didn't" kill himself and Maxwell went to prison, all interest and inquiries stopped.
Cheetos has resigned, so thats it folks. She was incompetent, she screwed up, she felt the consequneces.... case closed.
Cheetos has resigned, so thats it folks. She was incompetent, she screwed up, she felt the consequneces.... case closed.
Precisely. Keep leaking contradictory stories to the press instead of having official press conferences. Confusion is key, so that the general public will accept the "incompetence" narrative just out of exhaustion. Under no circumstances can they let any other story take hold.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
That guy is a former Seal sniper, so he knows what he's talking about.
One report I heard from what I believe was the Chief of the Local Police was the Officer was pulling himself up by his fingertips, looked over the roof, saw the shooter who pointed the Rifle at him and he dropped down, then the shooter started firing. Getting up on a Roof with out a sufficient Ladder or way to climb (especially a Metal Roof) isn't easy, especially with a Duty Belt and Vest...it's quick and easy to ask "Why didn't the Cop Shoot?" without actually thinking about the situation he was in...Myself, I couldn't climb up on the roof while already having a Service Pistol drawn and in the ready; could you? You poke your hear up over the flashing and someone highly suspect of committing or about to commit a violent crime points an ostensibly loaded gun at you, what are YOU going to do? Me? I'm going to hope I don't break something when I hit the ground.They said he got ascared
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
EggZaklee. You’ll never get the answers
spat
.700 Nitro Express
To be fair, if you're on a ladder with a holstered pistol peeking your head over the edge of the roof, and some guy points a rifle at you, you'd have to be an idiot to try and draw.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
Far king
.357 mag
What bullshit ! I saw the fucking reenactment where a fake head was shot by a 300 win mag loaded with ballistic tip bullets and the thing blew up.Gunshot Re-Enact Shows Bloodspray and Head Pieces Absent from Butler Rally Roof Sniper Aftermath, Blood, Brains, Should be Sprayed All Over Roof (GRAPHIC)
Photos show a very limited amount of bloodspray, brain matter, skull fragments, on the roof, if any.
Even after the body was taken away, very little pooled blood remained even though the head wound should have created a massive opening where the body's 1.2-1.5 gallons (12-15 pints) of blood should have immediately come out of, coming onto the roof of the AGR Building.
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In the 16:42 video, at 12:30, the shot on the ballistic head nearly completely disintegrates the head of the target.
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Gunshot Re-Enact Shows Bloodspray and Head Pieces Absent from Butler Rally Roof Sniper Aftermath, Blood, Brains, Should be Sprayed All Over Roof (GRAPHIC) | The Gateway Pundit | by Benjamin Wetmore
(Warning: The images described in this article is graphic in nature.
Re tardy Oswald may well have been hit in his REAL HEAD with something less devastating like a 308 .
Cavalry
.308 Win
I was not impressed with Brandon's video, it certainly gave the impression to the uninformed that heads just explode when hit by a 300 win mag.
5:10 Yeah, wrong species, but the end result will be very similar.