Proposed Bill Would Pay Inmates $2600 After They Leave Prison

stokes · Mar 10, 2024

Thats fine if they make them work while they are in prison to earn it. Then when they are released it can be like unemployment until they find another job stamping license plates.

libertysnake · Mar 10, 2024

I'm not opposed to this, but on the grounds:

1) They work for it.
2) It is conditional. If they fail to stay out of prison for at least two years after, they will be on the hook to pay back every penny through labor or garnished wages in the future. Lets reward good behavior only.

stokes · Mar 10, 2024

libertysnake said:
they will be on the hook to pay back every penny through

That would be fine but there is no way they will recover any money from these people. Most of them dont give a fuck about a credit rating or any repercussions from an unpaid debt.

libertysnake · Mar 10, 2024

stokes said:
That would be fine but there is no way they will recover any money from these people. Most of them dont give a fuck about a credit rating or any repercussions from an unpaid debt.

Then I would do it like this.

If you stay out of prison for two years, we will give you $2600, tax free. Done. In fact, up it. $5000 if you stay out of prison for at least two years, if you're a first time offender and you manage to hold a productive job for at least 12 months during that period of time (24 months.)

JunkBoxFull · Mar 10, 2024

libertysnake said:
Then I would do it like this.

If you stay out of prison for two years, we will give you $2600, tax free. Done. In fact, up it. $5000 if you stay out of prison for at least two years, if you're a first time offender and you manage to hold a productive job for at least 12 months during that period of time (24 months.)

NO! NOT ONE FUKKING PENNY!
Why should i pay someone else to behave. Had they NOT fukked up, they wouldn`t have been locked up to begin with! This is just another poor excuse for the way the government works... spend money foolishly, then rely on the tax payers to bail their worthless azzes out!

Saltwater60 · Mar 10, 2024

I’m all for things that make good financial sense and incentivizing people to stay out of prison and be productive members does this. However I don’t think $2,600 will do much of anything for anyone especially a successful criminal. Drug dealers make this in a day.

JunkBoxFull · Mar 10, 2024

Saltwater60 said:
I’m all for things that make good financial sense and incentivizing people to stay out of prison and be productive members does this. However I don’t think $2,600 will do much of anything for anyone especially a successful criminal. Drug dealers make this in a day.

Thats why i`m on the "NO LIST". This fixes nothing. It will damn sure make your taxes go up. That money should be invested in bringing jobs back, instead of going to losers who will be back in prison in no time. But they will gladly take the free handout, and still contribute to criminal activities, and getting paid for it.

Rocpo · Mar 10, 2024

So...this is a little off. Inmates, when released are given $40 PLUS whatever is still "on the books" for their commissary account.

Darth · Mar 10, 2024

Rocpo said:
So...this is a little off. Inmates, when released are given $40 PLUS whatever is still "on the books" for their commissary account.

*"incarcerated individuals"

stokes · Mar 10, 2024

Darth said:
*"incarcerated individuals"

*"mutts"

fresch · Mar 10, 2024

Criminals

libertysnake · Mar 10, 2024

JunkBoxFull said:
NO! NOT ONE FUKKING PENNY!
Why should i pay someone else to behave. Had they NOT fukked up, they wouldn`t have been locked up to begin with! This is just another poor excuse for the way the government works... spend money foolishly, then rely on the tax payers to bail their worthless azzes out!

Personally, I don't want to give a penny to these people either. I get it. We don't owe them anything, seeing as they're the offender here.

But, you know what I value more than not giving them money? Keeping society safe and productive. Bringing in more taxes through productive people than having to waste money chasing them down and locking them up. I want a certain result, and I'm not above manipulation to get that result.

If we can tactfully achieve that result with the right incentive, then so be it. The goal is to make your life easier, and sometimes that means making some sacrifices to get where you want to be.

That's my take.

stokes · Mar 10, 2024

I am fine with it as long as they are working to earn it, not as an incentive to stay out of trouble. Take them out as road gangs and such. Maybe working to earn their keep will teach them to get in line with society.

Rocpo · Mar 10, 2024

Darth said:
*"incarcerated individuals"

Skells. Scrotes. Parasites. Take your pick.

Acer-m14 · Mar 11, 2024

when i was in the Navy and fucked up and ended up in the Restriction Barracks for a few weeks or a month ..

yeah i got sent there 2 times for stupid shit ... it was just like going to jail ..

my pay was restricted to 1/2 pay .. lose of rank ..

and had to go pick up trash or do some other service work on the base during that time ..

without getting that other 1/2 of paycheck back when i got out ..

Fuck them

Grimscale · Mar 11, 2024

livingston said:
State Senator Kevin Parker and Assemblyman Eddie Gibbs introduced the legislation, which would allow inmates to collect around $400 each month over six months once they leave prison, and have asked that 25 million dollars be set aside for the initiative.

It's so nice of Sen Parker to offer up $25mil of his own money to help people who are just released from prison.

...What's that? It's MY tax dollars?

Yeah, no. I'm tired of my hard-earned money being used to finance people who are here illegally, freeloaders, or criminals.

Sen Parker can start a GoFundMe and see if enough of the public is willing to sign on to his idea... but not a single penny from our tax money.

GOYABEAN · Mar 11, 2024

Remarkable

Saltwater60 · Mar 11, 2024

stokes said:
I am fine with it as long as they are working to earn it, not as an incentive to stay out of trouble. Take them out as road gangs and such. Maybe working to earn their keep will teach them to get in line with society.

Now this makes sense to me but instead of $2,600 they need to be doing more work and earn more money so they have a shot at not returning to jail.

fresch · Mar 11, 2024

All had free school.
Most had welfare.
What makes anyone think they would change?
Instead make jail/prison undesirable, bring back the death penalty, bring back the work programs. End the war on drugs or actually fight it.
Most of our problems come from our political overlords.

spat · Mar 11, 2024

libertysnake said:
Then I would do it like this.

If you stay out of prison for two years, we will give you $2600, tax free. Done. In fact, up it. $5000 if you stay out of prison for at least two years, if you're a first time offender and you manage to hold a productive job for at least 12 months during that period of time (24 months.)

If you pay the Danegeld you will never get rid of the Dane....

spat · Mar 11, 2024

Rocpo said:
Skells. Scrotes. Parasites. Take your pick.

I prefer shitweasels. But I suppose that is more applicable to politicians than convicts.

prambo · Mar 11, 2024

spat · Mar 11, 2024

Darth said:
*"incarcerated individuals"

This is 2024, they are trans-autonomous people.

fresch · Mar 11, 2024

Turds for short.

Zerex · Mar 11, 2024

No..send them to Mexico so that they can come back and collect 4k per month as illegals.

Beerman · Mar 11, 2024

libertysnake said:
Personally, I don't want to give a penny to these people either. I get it. We don't owe them anything, seeing as they're the offender here.

But, you know what I value more than not giving them money? Keeping society safe and productive. Bringing in more taxes through productive people than having to waste money chasing them down and locking them up. I want a certain result, and I'm not above manipulation to get that result.

If we can tactfully achieve that result with the right incentive, then so be it. The goal is to make your life easier, and sometimes that means making some sacrifices to get where you want to be.

That's my take.

Is that you, Kathy? I meant Governor Hochul? Lemme guess: you don’t need the data, right? It’s your right, as Governor, to achieve whatever you desire.

(See how that bullshit works when the tables are skewed a bit?)

Beerman · Mar 11, 2024

Mandatory work release program, as part of sentencing, to fill all of the jobs that Hochul says are unfilled. Mandatory labor while incarcerated to fund the prison ops. Go to prison? You’re gonna pay for it in every possible way imaginable. That might help a little. But no, NYS just wants to hug it out with the shit sacks and coddle them with the tax monies from the oppressed good citizens. Or am I way off here? Tell me I’m mistaken.

libertysnake · Mar 11, 2024

Beerman said:
Is that you, Kathy? I meant Governor Hochul? Lemme guess: you don’t need the data, right? It’s your right, as Governor, to achieve whatever you desire.

(See how that bullshit works when the tables are skewed a bit?)

I don't even understand what point you're trying to make. Because to me it just sounds like you're making an ad hominem and we're not looking at how to find a practical solution to this problem.

I want the animals to behave. If I can get them to behave on the cheap to my wallet, so the better. If that avenue towards correct behavior becomes more costly, then that avenue will be abandoned.

fresch · Mar 11, 2024

So we wouldn't "need" all the illegal turds to fill the unfillable jobs?
What an idea.

Proposed Bill Would Pay Inmates $2600 After They Leave Prison

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