Rittenhouse trial thread (multi-merged)

[BerettaGuy]

As I am watching the trail on YouTube, arguing about the "instructions" I am still appalled by the actions of the prosecution and the malpractice of the defense. But in my humble opinion, the progressive left elite wants and needs a conviction. Otherwise, you have the right of self-defense against a routing mob and they can't have that.

 

[BerettaGuy]

They are arguing over the use of FMJ is showing utter disregard for human life... . Look at the NJ law on hollow points. in handguns ...

This is why I say that lawyers don't have any skin in the 2A Rights game.
Kyle testified they went plinking on the friend's property.
Now I'm not the poorest man in the world but I don't go plinking with 'hollow points" Simple economics. I don't use hollow points rifle or pistol to shoot on the range or out in the woods plinking.

 

[spat]

This is why I say that lawyers don't have any skin in the 2A Rights game.
Kyle testified they went plinking on the friend's property.
Now I'm not the poorest man in the world but I don't go plinking with 'hollow points" Simple economics. I don't use hollow points rifle or pistol to shoot on the range or out in the woods plinking.

The whole argument is silly for .223.

Hollow points offer a bit of increased performance in some calibers, but in .223 the improvement is not all that drastic anyway.

 

[wirehairfan]

Not sure if I'm permitted to link Handwaving Freakoutery here. My apologies and delete this if I'm not supposed to.

If you're not familiar with him, the guy is fantastic. He did a series of articles on mathematic analysis of firearm issues. Brilliant stuff. His take on Rittenhouse:

Rittenhouse as a Litmus for Adult Disagreement

Wherein we analyze a meme, a lie, a reaction, a riot, and a couple dead people, and discern the true enemy.

hwfo.substack.com

 

[Phazer]

While doing motions about charges, there is a dispute about a poorly worded, vague, Wisconsin long gun possession law. The judge just said, [paraphrase] "The law is poorly worded and is not easy to understand. Laws should be written so that people understand the statutes with which they are expected to comply."

Man! I wish this judge were in New York.

 

[GTN]

Judge tells jury no lesser charges Judge in Rittenhouse Trial Will Not Allow Jury to Consider Lesser Charge in Shooting

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[livingston]

While doing motions about charges, there is a dispute about a poorly worded, vague, Wisconsin long gun possession law. The judge just said, [paraphrase] "The law is poorly worded and is not easy to understand. Laws should be written so that people understand the statutes with which they are expected to comply."

Man! I wish this judge were in New York.

Kyle Rittenhouse NOT GUILTY of Unlawful Possession of a Firearm - Lawyer Explains​

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Catskillkid]

 

[Blimey]

This guy runs a massive hedge fund. I see him pop up in the news with some regularity.

 

[nortatoga]

This is why I say that lawyers don't have any skin in the 2A Rights game.
Kyle testified they went plinking on the friend's property.
Now I'm not the poorest man in the world but I don't go plinking with 'hollow points" Simple economics. I don't use hollow points rifle or pistol to shoot on the range or out in the woods plinking.

I believe you are mistaken, Kyle did have FMJ ammo that night.

Account Suspended

Binger’s focus on ammunition came after Rittenhouse previously confirmed that his AR-15 was loaded with full metal casing (FMJ) bullets, rather than hollow points.

 

[Jmac00]

my Rittenhouse guilty/not guilty prediction:

the judge has now ALLOWED the use of "Lesser Charges" Giving the prosecution a chance to save face in the debacle of a trial:

Kyle will be convicted of a lesser charge, 3rd degree murder (Manslaughter) Its the easiest charge to get a murder conviction. Thereby saving the prosecution from and embarrassing display of gross stupidity. I also predict Kyle will be convicted of carrying a firearm across state lines.

The liberals CAN NOT afford to let this kid go free. For two reasons

1) they need to send the message, Protecting yourself will result in severe penalties

2) if acquitted, Kyle is going to sue the shit out of every news caster/MSM AND POTUS for hundreds of millions of dollars for calling him a white supremist/Terrorist/murderer. Apparently CNN didn't learn there lesson in the Sandman case

 

[livingston]

 

[livingston]

500 WI Nat’l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha​

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse days ahead of the anticipated verdict.

500 WI Nat'l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to

americanmilitarynews.com

 

[Jmac00]

500 WI Nat’l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha​

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse days ahead of the anticipated verdict.

500 WI Nat'l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to

americanmilitarynews.com

Just who do they expect to riot and protest, its a white guy, defending himself from other white guys? its all about white guys?

 

[Deplorable Me]

500 WI Nat’l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha​

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse days ahead of the anticipated verdict.

500 WI Nat'l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to

americanmilitarynews.com

So where were the 500 National Guard troops the day of the riots?

 

[FrankenCub]

my Rittenhouse guilty/not guilty prediction:

the judge has now ALLOWED the use of "Lesser Charges" Giving the prosecution a chance to save face in the debacle of a trial:

Kyle will be convicted of a lesser charge, 3rd degree murder (Manslaughter) Its the easiest charge to get a murder conviction. Thereby saving the prosecution from and embarrassing display of gross stupidity. I also predict Kyle will be convicted of carrying a firearm across state lines.

The liberals CAN NOT afford to let this kid go free. For two reasons

1) they need to send the message, Protecting yourself will result in severe penalties

2) if acquitted, Kyle is going to sue the shit out of every news caster/MSM AND POTUS for hundreds of millions of dollars for calling him a white supremist/Terrorist/murderer. Apparently CNN didn't learn there lesson in the Sandman case

Did something change from post #396?
Article says he will not allow lesser charges.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Thinking about Rittenhouse at 17. During WWII 16 year olds lied about their age to sign up for various services to serve.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So where were the 500 National Guard troops the day of the riots?

In DC guarding Brandon.

 

[Catskillkid]

Just who do they expect to riot and protest, its a white guy, defending himself from other white guys? its all about white guys?

There are a shocking number of people out there who think he shot black people. When I point this out to people I've been called a liar.

The msm narrative did not explicitly state the race of the men who attacked Rittenhouse and continue to fail to do so. They want people to think that he went to Kenosha to kill black people instead of what he did which was to defend businesses and himself he against antifa.

 

[Jmac00]

Did something change from post #396?
Article says he will not allow lesser charges.

yes, the judge is now saying he will allow the jury to hear lesser charges. I guess he must feel sorry for the totally incompetent prosecution and wants to give them a sliver of hope

 

[Dr. Evil]

yes, the judge is now saying he will allow the jury to hear lesser charges. I guess he must feel sorry for the totally incompetent prosecution and wants to give them a sliver of hope

Or, "they" got to him.

 

[Jmac00]

Judge Says Rittenhouse 'Raising' Conviction Risk as Jury Weighs Charges

The jury in the trial is now able to consider lesser charges that Judge Bruce Schroeder will decide on by Saturday.

www.newsweek.com

The Associated Press reported that Judge Bruce Schroeder said he would issue his final rulings on which lesser charges he would allow on Saturday.

it seems there is some confusion as to whether the judge will allow the lesser charges, or when he will rule on it.

I have seen, "he won't allow the lesser charges" and I saw this morning "the judge will allow the lesser charges", now I see the above headlines that he won't rule until tomorrow"

so who knows what the hell is going on

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Just who do they expect to riot and protest, its a white guy, defending himself from other white guys? its all about white guys?

They'll say one of the white guys was black.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

They'll say one of the white guys was black.

it worked for Chieftainess Wounded Knees

 

[Modean]

500 WI Nat’l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha​

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse days ahead of the anticipated verdict.

500 WI Nat'l Guard troops deploy ahead of Kyle Rittenhouse verdict in Kenosha

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers has authorized the deployment of at least 500 National Guard troops to Kenosha to support law enforcement efforts related to

americanmilitarynews.com

A strong indicator of how they think this is going to end.

 

[Modean]

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Always nice to see someone break free from the matrix.

 

[Acer-m14]

Thinking about Rittenhouse at 17. During WWII 16 year olds lied about their age to sign up for various services to serve.

and even younger in other wars

The Eleven Year Old Union Soldier — Family History Conference Of Northwest Arkansas

An article on, and photos of, John Lincoln Clem, the youngest union soldier in the Civil War, presented on the Family History Conference of Northwest Arkansas genealogy website,

familyhistoryconferencenwa.org

 

[Deplorable Me]

A strong indicator of how they think this is going to end.

Yeah I know. Threw extra mags in my go bag this month. Lefty throws temper tantrums. I don't want to be caught downtown or on the highway.