Rochester man burned alive in his apartmwnt by 2 teens.

[dwa12479]

Words can't even describe how disturbing this is. And there's barely a mention of it on local news. I can only think of one reason why.

A 16-year-old boy and a 14-year-old boy are accused of lighting the man on fire after spraying him with an ignitable liquid as the man sat on a chair inside his apartment on Lyell Avenue around 12:30 p.m. on Friday, Umbrino said.

Teens accused of setting man on fire now face murder charges

Two teenagers who allegedly set a man on fire are now facing second-degree murder charges.

www.democratandchronicle.com

 

[cgrutt]

Both teens were charged with first-degree assault and attempted second-degree arson, both felonies, in connection with the attack.

Scumbags. Why not attempted murder / murder?

 

[Tinman]

Charge them with 1st degree murder. Once convicted, burn them at the stake.

 

[C3D]

Charge them with 1st degree murder. Once convicted, burn them at the stake.

In a curious quirk under the NY Penal Code, 1st degree Arson and 1st degree Murder are equivalent charges, both are A1 felonies.

 

[pjzwtl]

Yet our society is focused on banning kids books and cartoons

 

[tirwin1]

Reverse the races and this becomes a national story. But it's not even the top story for the local piece of kotex newspaper.

 

[Grimscale]

Reverse the races and this becomes a national story. But it's not even the top story for the local piece of kotex newspaper.

What is interesting is they very carefully do not mention race at all. In a world where the "news" is so quick to notice skin color, the absence of any information is glaring.

On the Facebook page of WHAM is a discussion on this. One person posted the following:


While another claims to know the identities of the two boys, and is backed up by someone claiming he has inside knowledge (of the court system, not the boys).

I don't expect any follow up articles regarding the upcoming trial, however. I find there is rarely any articles stating what the final outcome is, or if there is an article it is a small blurb buried deep in the ether.

 

[tirwin1]

What is interesting is they very carefully do not mention race at all. In a world where the "news" is so quick to notice skin color, the absence of any information is glaring.

The american press has officially become like "pravda" - the official newspaper of the soviet union. People learned how to read between the lines to get at the truth of a story because they new the official reporting was dishonest.

In fact a lefty writer for rolling stone magazine just wrote a rather damning article on just this topic which is well worth reading.

The Sovietization of the American Press

The transformation from phony "objectivity" to open one-party orthodoxy hasn't been an improvement

taibbi.substack.com

 

[tirwin1]

This crime is the direct result of bail reform. Look what that charming 14 year old did in the months prior to burning that man:


Judge Randall and the other judge that denied a warrant for this punk's arrest should be publicly shamed and removed from their position. I'm sure it's not legal but I would like to see the surviving family members of the dead guy personally sue all judges involved with keeping this asshole on the streets.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Reverse the races and this becomes a national story. But it's not even the top story for the local piece of kotex newspaper.

This is the bigotry of low expectations

 

[Paxal]

Words can't even describe how disturbing this is. And there's barely a mention of it on local news. I can only think of one reason why.

Teens accused of setting man on fire now face murder charges

Two teenagers who allegedly set a man on fire are now facing second-degree murder charges.

www.democratandchronicle.com

What the hell has happened to my hometown?!

 

[pshift]

My head is spinning....

 

[Phazer]

Goddammit!

When are we going to ban matches, lighters, lighter fluid, gasoline, kerosene, acetone, and paint thinner? People cannot have these weapons! If the ban saves just one life, it'll be worth it.

Come on Dems, get on it!

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Just completely disgusting.

 

[prambo]

This crime is the direct result of bail reform. Look what that charming 14 year old did in the months prior to burning that man:

Judge Randall and the other judge that denied a warrant for this punk's arrest should be publicly shamed and removed from their position. I'm sure it's not legal but I would like to see the surviving family members of the dead guy personally sue all judges involved with keeping this asshole on the streets.

You're forgiving nature is showing, my friend...I would recommend a more en"light"ened form of karma.

 

[Phazer]

Just completely disgusting.

These misguided individuals just need jobs....


...as target holders at a range.

 

[GOPerfect]

Words can't even describe how disturbing this is. And there's barely a mention of it on local news. I can only think of one reason why.

Teens accused of setting man on fire now face murder charges

Two teenagers who allegedly set a man on fire are now facing second-degree murder charges.

www.democratandchronicle.com

You do not need to imagine why. You already know the answer, as do I.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So sad. The punishment should fit the crime. We put animals down for less.

 

[Phazer]

So sad. The punishment should fit the crime. We put animals down for less.

We are supposed to live in a civil society. When an individual wantonly breaches the most basic tenets of that society, then they no longer have any place in that society. Furthermore, the expense for their continued existence should not be a burden on the society that they have so brazenly, and callously, refuted.

 

[Phazer]

So sad. The punishment should fit the crime. We put animals down for less.

So...should we send the ATF to their homes?

 

[Dr. Evil]

So...should we send the ATF to their homes?

Animal control makes more sense.

 

[dwa12479]

We are supposed to live in a civil society. When an individual wantonly breaches the most basic tenets of that society, then they no longer have any place in that society. Furthermore, the expense for their continued existence should not be a burden on the society that they have so brazenly, and callously, refuted.

So very true. The depravity of this act should be a sentence of life behind bars with no chance of parole. Ever. At MINIMUM.. We all know it won't happen though.

 

[Phazer]

So...should we send the ATF to their homes?

Animal control makes more sense.

I know...ATF tends to take out dogs.

 

[Celt]

Easy, pour flamable liquid on them and set them on fire like they did to this poor guy. After several high profile cases of this happening people might start thinking better before doing such horrible things.

 

[hooked]

Easy, pour flamable liquid on them and set them on fire like they did to this poor guy. After several high profile cases of this happening people might start thinking better before doing such horrible things.

In certain ways the eye for an eye keeps every one in line. In the middle east they leave their gold jewelry shops unguarded and non dares to steal anything. Once looses an arm if you steal second time after the first warning.

 

[spat]

In a curious quirk under the NY Penal Code, 1st degree Arson and 1st degree Murder are equivalent charges, both are A1 felonies.

If events were as they are portrayed, then they are guilty of both.

Sentences should be consecutive.

 

[Steal2B]

In certain ways the eye for an eye keeps every one in line. In the middle east they leave their gold jewelry shops unguarded and non dares to steal anything. Once looses an arm if you steal second time after the first warning.

I happened to be in Tripoli Lybia's shopping square for a public hand amputation. All of the shop keepers left their goods unprotected with little or no concern of theft and rather than being a fearful event, the crowd seem to enjoy the show.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[BerettaGuy]

Given a ticket and a court date. No bail necessary.

 

[Acer-m14]

i remember as a little pre teen .. every time we took a road trip to buffalo area and we passed a Juvenile Detention Prison ..
i think it was called something industry in the Attica ny area ..

dad would always say .. if you keep misbehaving you will be there as we drove by it. this was back in the mid to late 70's