Safe Act Update, Pistol Permit Recertification Deadline Approaching !

[Acer-m14]

My bitching is with the way the default assumption is with the opt-out question. IMO there should be no reason to opt-out. The default should be opt-out and the question should read, 'Check here if you'd LIKE your handgun permit information released publicly'. FUAC

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there should never be a opt-out choice on anything .. just a opt-in .. where is that check box on Taxes ?? come on Trump Bring it .. a nice long list of boxes to check where your $$$ is going ... yes / no .. LOL ...

 

[Bob]

My bitching is with the way the default assumption is with the opt-out question. IMO there should be no reason to opt-out. The default should be opt-out and the question should read, 'Check here if you'd LIKE your handgun permit information released publicly'. FUAC

Agreed. But this is exactly how it's worded in the law. And remember who wrote the law.

 

[libertysnake]

Agreed. But this is exactly how it's worded in the law. And remember who wrote the law.

Cowardly traitors. That’s who wrote it.

 

[nortatoga]

I just sent mine in, Filled it out yesterday ( Remember to hit SAVE if you don't do it all at once!!) made some changes this morning. I added 38 to my 357, and put MP 40 and 9 (conversion) together on one gun instead of listing them separately.

 

[masterswimmer]

It's not 1/30 yet. Still waiting to send it on paper.

 

[Armyman 73]

If I remember correctly we filled out op out paperwork after safe act was implemented by May 2013. At county level, seems like redundancy of the system.

 

[Darth]

My bitching is with the way the default assumption is with the opt-out question. IMO there should be no reason to opt-out. The default should be opt-out and the question should read, 'Check here if you'd LIKE your handgun permit information released publicly'. FUAC

Imagine if they pulled that with medical records.

"Check here if you do NOT want a list of your STDs to be sent to your grandmother at Thanksgiving dinner."

 

[masterswimmer]

If I remember correctly we filled out op out paperwork after safe act was implemented by May 2013. At county level, seems like redundancy of the system.

That too!

 

[VietnamEraVet]

If I remember correctly we filled out op out paperwork after safe act was implemented by May 2013. At county level, seems like redundancy of the system.

I was very surprised when Alan Brown of the Erie County PPO told me that the privacy form most of us filled out ONLY APPLIES if someone makes a request in his office! If someone asks the SP in Albany, he said our privacy opt out form does not apply. WTF????

 

[dantrap]

Went to the Eric Count PPO last week and it was a 1 1/2 hour wait to add a new gun. Spoke with the door man(they have one now) and he stated they are super busy processing 4000 new permits a month, up from 800. The door man stated that the Erie County Clerk and several others may go to court for a recert extension. A formal request was submitted by the clerks offices and the answer was no way. The State believes a lot time was given (1 year) for people to go thru the process. So with Erie county at 40% recertification (out of 45K permit holders) as of last week. The clerks office believes there is going to be big problems. A Possible letter to turn in you arms and report for arrest may start as soon as Feb. 10. The state will not be sending anyone to your house but they can freeze you assets, Tax return money, bank accounts etc., and this will drive people to turn them self in for arrest.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Went to the Eric Count PPO last week and it was a 1 1/2 hour wait to add a new gun. Spoke with the door man(they have one now) and he stated they are super busy processing 4000 new permits a month, up from 800. The door man stated that the Erie County Clerk and several others may go to court for a recert extension. A formal request was submitted by the clerks offices and the answer was no way. The State believes a lot time was given (1 year) for people to go thru the process. So with Erie county at 40% recertification (out of 45K permit holders) as of last week. The clerks office believes there is going to be big problems. A Possible letter to turn in you arms and report for arrest may start as soon as Feb. 10. The state will not be sending anyone to your house but they can freeze you assets, Tax return money, bank accounts etc., and this will drive people to turn them self in for arrest.

I don't understand this. Why is the Erie county clerk involved in this recertification? They can't just post up
the website and or give out recertification forms for you to mail? What exactly are they doing?

 

[MothMan]

Went to the Eric Count PPO last week and it was a 1 1/2 hour wait to add a new gun. Spoke with the door man(they have one now) and he stated they are super busy processing 4000 new permits a month, up from 800. The door man stated that the Erie County Clerk and several others may go to court for a recert extension. A formal request was submitted by the clerks offices and the answer was no way. The State believes a lot time was given (1 year) for people to go thru the process. So with Erie county at 40% recertification (out of 45K permit holders) as of last week. The clerks office believes there is going to be big problems. A Possible letter to turn in you arms and report for arrest may start as soon as Feb. 10. The state will not be sending anyone to your house but they can freeze you assets, Tax return money, bank accounts etc., and this will drive people to turn them self in for arrest.

It has been known for a long time that there was going to be problems.

The state was never going to come to your house. They are going to have the lying sheriffs do it.

There will be no extension.

 

[Edwardteach72]

So I'm a bit confused why would there be an extension? This has been a known thing for 5 years?

Also like asked earlier (kinda) why would the PP office be asking for an extension, this has nothing to do with them it's all on the licensee and the NYSP

 

[nortatoga]

It has been known for a long time that there was going to be problems.

The state was never going to come to your house. They are going to have the lying sheriffs do it.

There will be no extension.

I have it from a good source that the Judge in my County will be sending any revoked pistol licenses to the NYSP not the Sheriff!

 

[MothMan]

Let me know how that works out for the PP holder.

 

[nortatoga]

Let me know how that works out for the PP holder.

I will post anything that I hear about that seems legit!!

 

[libertysnake]

I will post anything that I hear about that seems legit!!

Well, the law is unconstitutional so it’s never “legit.”

It doesn’t say “the right of the people to bear arms, shall be left up to the permit office.”

It says “shall not be infringed.” It doesn’t leave qualifiers in it. It’s clear.

 

[nortatoga]

Well, the law is unconstitutional so it’s never “legit.”

It doesn’t say “the right of the people to bear arms, shall be left up to the permit office.”

It says “shall not be infringed.” It doesn’t leave qualifiers in it. It’s clear.

Legit as in true info not hearsay!

 

[libertysnake]

Legit as in true info not hearsay!

I know. I’m just saying we should always go out of the way to voice our opinion on laws. We should always call out unconstitutional laws, even if we’re forced to obey them due to the force of the unconstitutional upholding of that law. Being quiet just gives the illusion of consent.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I know. I’m just saying we should always go out of the way to voice our opinion on laws. We should always call out unconstitutional laws, even if we’re forced to obey them due to the force of the unconstitutional upholding of that law. Being quiet just gives the illusion of consent.

Especially on a medium where everyone already has the same mind set and agree.. yes take every opertunity to twist what someone says so you can cry about something in a way that does the cause no good

 

[libertysnake]

Especially on a medium where everyone already has the same mind set and agree.. yes take every opertunity to twist what someone says so you can cry about something in a way that does the cause no good

You’re not going to silence me on this board or otherwise. I’ve always been a proponent of organizing people on this board for positive change.

If you’ve got a better idea, then speak up. Nut up or shut up.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I was very surprised when Alan Brown of the Erie County PPO told me that the privacy form most of us filled out ONLY APPLIES if someone makes a request in his office! If someone asks the SP in Albany, he said our privacy opt out form does not apply. WTF????

The cure for this is to list the names of the media, individuals and politicians who hint they want to list the PP owners publicly.

 

[Deplorable Me]

My form went in last week, am adding a new pistol this week. May a thousand Russian hackers infest your database.

 

[nortatoga]

I know. I’m just saying we should always go out of the way to voice our opinion on laws. We should always call out unconstitutional laws, even if we’re forced to obey them due to the force of the unconstitutional upholding of that law. Being quiet just gives the illusion of consent.

Sure! Just be sure you are right on what is Constitutional and what is not!

 

[FLA45fan]

Went to the Eric Count PPO last week and it was a 1 1/2 hour wait to add a new gun. Spoke with the door man(they have one now) and he stated they are super busy processing 4000 new permits a month, up from 800. The door man stated that the Erie County Clerk and several others may go to court for a recert extension. A formal request was submitted by the clerks offices and the answer was no way. The State believes a lot time was given (1 year) for people to go thru the process. So with Erie county at 40% recertification (out of 45K permit holders) as of last week. The clerks office believes there is going to be big problems. A Possible letter to turn in you arms and report for arrest may start as soon as Feb. 10. The state will not be sending anyone to your house but they can freeze you assets, Tax return money, bank accounts etc., and this will drive people to turn them self in for arrest.

They'd not gonna arrest anyone - they said so right on the telly-vision. I done heared it wit my own two ears . . .


Yeah, right

 

[Marine Cpl]

Sure! Just be sure you are right on what is Constitutional and what is not!

What do you mean by that exactly?

 

[nortatoga]

What do you mean by that exactly?

Licensing for CCW.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Licensing for CCW.

Here we go again. Where in the 2A does is say shall not be infringed except for licensing for concealed carry?

 

[libertysnake]

Here we go again. Where in the 2A does is say shall not be infringed except for licensing for concealed carry?

Right next to the part where it says you can have free college.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Right next to the part where it says you can have free college.

He's going to quote the corrupt Heller decision in 3, 2, 1.